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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoTaru View Post
    I'll definitely let her know about the Fuma's although she's likely to steal my gil since I'm the one that convinced her to sell them (Fail). SAM isn't her main, moreso NIN and DNC, but I'm going to assume Fuma is better for NIN too, so I'll make her pick them up.

    Ace's she's likely never to get as she's content with just grouping up and doing things with a few other friends we play with and has no interest in anything beyond that; however, Askar Zuchetto is hers if the SOB will ever drop as well. I think we're like 1/20 on any heads at all.

    Peacock Charm should be gotten by the end of teh week assuming we have our normal luck with drops this week. When she gets this will she still need to drop the Sea Gorget for Chiv Chain during WS or should she get Hachiman feet to swap in? Following that, her Haub+1 should be rolling in as well.

    Salavge she despises but with the groups we've been in, it's not hard to imagine why.

    Thanks again :D

    Oh and I believe I read Dusk being better thing on BG about the Attack outweighing the 1% Haste. Granted this was ages ago, and for the life of me I don't remember who said it, but I'm also an idiot so that's a decent factor as well.
    Turban>Askar is probably an upgrade for her right now, but that will very likely change once she gets more haste/accuracy (sooner than the other would). I really wouldn't prioritize that high at all.

    TPing in Hachi feet, she should be fine even without Chiv Chain. That will put her at 46TP, 45WS, which is nearly perfect (46/44 is minimum).

    I'd also prefer Fuma's for nin...extra agility never hurts for the eva/parry. Though, Dusk+1 definitely beats Fumas, but yea, that's expensive for not much gain.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Turban>Askar is probably an upgrade for her right now, but that will very likely change once she gets more haste/accuracy (sooner than the other would). I really wouldn't prioritize that high at all.
    Um no.
    you need a moderately large amount of haste[atleast marchs/haste/good haste gear] and acc to be relatively high for turban to become better if we discount the str/attack.
    Also I went 1/20 for my askar, then 2/7 for friends'.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    Um no.
    you need a moderately large amount of haste[atleast marchs/haste/good haste gear] and acc to be relatively high for turban to become better if we discount the str/attack.
    Also I went 1/20 for my askar, then 2/7 for friends'.
    when I said Turban>Askar would be an upgrade, I meant going from Turban to Askar would be an upgrade. Once she gets a Byakkos/Pcharm/etc, it's going to be very close in most situations.

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    I wouldn't say Askar is a priority, but we have a Nyzul set and we're spamming 100s at the moment and she's the first up for Askar, so it's inevitable that she'll get that probably sooner than the rest unless this drop rate keeps ups. From what I'm seeing the only way she'll have the option to use haste hands/feet is if she
    A. Uses Askar Body for TP and WS in Hachiman Feet
    B. Obtain Usukane feet

    Is this correct or am I doing my math wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoTaru View Post
    I wouldn't say Askar is a priority, but we have a Nyzul set and we're spamming 100s at the moment and she's the first up for Askar, so it's inevitable that she'll get that probably sooner than the rest unless this drop rate keeps ups. From what I'm seeing the only way she'll have the option to use haste hands/feet is if she
    A. Uses Askar Body for TP and WS in Hachiman Feet
    B. Obtain Usukane feet

    Is this correct or am I doing my math wrong?
    Sure, the math is correct, but it's not worth using haste hands/feet. Option A is bad. Haste is great and all, but losing ~13-17 accuracy (depending on NQ/HQ Haub and current dex) isn't worth it, in my opinion (unless you're acc capped outside of body, which she isn't). You're better off going with either Hachi hands or feet.
    Usukane Feet, however, are the end-all-be-all for Samurai. Haste, accuracy, attack, AND it makes your stp build. They really are that good.

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    Exactly what I need to know, thanks.

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