2009 MLB season discussion*

[Kyo]

6. Albert Pujols will be outed as a steroid user

Find a building to jump off of.

[Kyo]

Pre-season prediction for world series, Yankee's Vs. Mets.

Dunno if anyone had done this yet, but I think a subway series is quite likely.

[Akiyama]

I do believe i sense some hating, anyways go Sox, Dustin is gonna win another MVP this year :D

Then learn how to sense "hating" better. No hate going on here. I'm just saying that you'd never want to admit a lesser team beat you (meaning I was saying I thought Boston was somewhat better), so how is that hating? =p

[Kang]

I've been waiting so long for baseball to start yay!

inc flops from AJ Burnett when he gets injured midway through the season, and boos when CC Sabathia loses 4 out of his first 6 games.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS!

Just kidding. I'm hoping Burnett can continue to do well from last year, and Sabathia has a good year. I love that guy.

On topic, I'm from the Toronto area and saw Burnett pitch a lot. Sorry if you're a Yankees fan but the guy is going to crash and burn in the Bronx.

If anyone has happened to see him pitch, he's basically a two-pitch pitcher, fastball and curve.

He has a lot of problems with his curve and if it's not going for him on any given start, then hitters will avoid it and tee off on his high 80s fastball.

Plus he's injury prone.

I've never liked this guy and I can't wait for him to implode in NY.

But yeah, gogo spring training!

[Melena]

ESPN reported that Drew is complaining about his back still hurting. This have anyone in Beantown worried?

[Reality]

I do believe i sense some hating, anyways go Sox, Dustin is gonna win another MVP this year :D

Will Quentin be receiving another free steak dinner from him again in 2009?

[Akiyama]

When is JD Drew not in pain?

[Headspace]

November through February.

[fren.]

I've been waiting so long for baseball to start yay!



On topic, I'm from the Toronto area and saw Burnett pitch a lot. Sorry if you're a Yankees fan but the guy is going to crash and burn in the Bronx.

If anyone has happened to see him pitch, he's basically a two-pitch pitcher, fastball and curve.

He has a lot of problems with his curve and if it's not going for him on any given start, then hitters will avoid it and tee off on his high 80s fastball.

Plus he's injury prone.

I've never liked this guy and I can't wait for him to implode in NY.

But yeah, gogo spring training!

This post is just littered with bad info. He has arguably the best fastball + curve combo in the game.

Burnett records a season-high 13 K's against New York - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

High 80's fastball? what the fuck? You either attended Blue Jays games wearing blindfolds or have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about.

As an avid White Sox fan, I can speak for the majority of our fanbase when I say, Enjoy the Swisher Show. Because it gets fucking old real fast.

Besides, we had no room for the guy on our team, as he wasn't replacing Dye or Quentin, and he's a terrible CF

I'll take that gamble, every advanced metric showed that he was very unlucky last year. Williams gave up a fortune to get Swisher and we traded essentially garbage.

[Akiyama]

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Wow, fren. I'm not going to say what I'm saying wow about, exactly, but wow.

As far as Swisher.. that's why you traded for him, yet Swisher's name is in trade rumors already, and the season hasn't started. Right? Swisher was horrendous last season for the first half if I remember right, and had to catch on fire to even have a respectable second half. Also.. "luck" is a real big part of the game, hence why the Cubs, and their negative luck... hasn't won a World Series in 101 years.

[Reality]

I'll take that gamble, every advanced metric showed that he was very unlucky last year. Williams gave up a fortune to get Swisher and we traded essentially garbage.

You're correct in that his saber stats indicated he was the unluckiest offensive player in baseball last year (His BABIP #'s are hilarious given how many outs he produced, so many hard line-drives right at guys)

But I think, from hearing rumors here in IL/Chicago Sports Media, Swisher was on his way out the door due to his relationship with Ozzie, as well as other rumors (Cocaine, Strippers. No I'm not making this up.) ultimately lead to him being dealt.

[Viq]

ESPN reported that Drew is complaining about his back still hurting. This have anyone in Beantown worried?

I'd be more suspicious if he showed up feeling fine.

[fren.]

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Wow, fren. I'm not going to say what I'm saying wow about, exactly, but wow.

What?

You do realize me claiming Burnett has some of the best stuff in the game isn't the same as calling him one of the best pitchers in the game? The dude I quoted essentially claimed he had a fringe curve and when that didn't work, hitters sat on his high 80's fastball. Both of which are laughably fucking stupid remarks.

As far as Swisher.. that's why you traded for him, yet Swisher's name is in trade rumors already, and the season hasn't started. Right? Swisher was horrendous last season for the first half if I remember right, and had to catch on fire to even have a respectable second half. Also.. "luck" is a real big part of the game, hence why the Cubs, and their negative luck... hasn't won a World Series in 101 years.

He's a better player than Nady (who's also a Boras client) and is cheaper. Putting his name out there as bait doesn't mean squat.

and no, baseball is probably the only sport where you can measure a player's luck.

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/4599...7_20080930.png

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[Kang]

What?

You do realize me claiming Burnett has some of the best stuff in the game isn't the same as calling him one of the best pitchers in the game? The dude I quoted essentially claimed he had a fringe curve and when that didn't work, hitters sat on his high 80's fastball. Both of which are laughably fucking stupid remarks.



He's a better player than Nady (who's also a Boras client) and is cheaper. Putting his name out there as bait doesn't mean squat.

and no, baseball is probably the only sport where you can measure a player's luck.

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/4599...7_20080930.png

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Dude, have you actually SEEN Burnett pitch when he's having a bad game, which happens more often than not, unless its last season where he finally pitched well. Took him long enough though.

When he's off, he has a tendency for throwing many curve balls into the dirt and after seeing it so many times, hitters won't chase it. And when I mean throwing it into the dirt, I mean almost having wild pitches.

And saying he has a good fastball/curve combo is a joke. I always say the guy needs to learn a third pitch (like a change up) so he can rely on it when his curve isn't working and he starts to overthrow his fast ball.

And one more thing. Having one good season when the guy has been playing for 10 (in a contract year no less0 doesn't make him the all-star you claim him to be.

Edit* Okay so I was wrong about the high 80s fastball, I'm thinking of someone else, but Burnett doesn't have a dominating fastball anyways.

[barber2006]

Since 2001, Burnett has been a 3.75ish era guy with nearly a K an inning. His numbers are nearly the same in the AL and NL. He's not Koufax, but he is a solid pitcher who very well could win 20 games if he starts 35.

[Komm Suesser Tod]

I swear to whatever almighty mother fucker holds dominion over this existence of ours, if the Cubs make it to the playoffs, and fucking lose it in the first round, I am burning Chicago to the ground.

[Kang]

Since 2001, Burnett has been a 3.75ish era guy with nearly a K an inning. His numbers are nearly the same in the AL and NL. He's not Koufax, but he is a solid pitcher who very well could win 20 games if he starts 35.

He might be able to get 20 but he needs to be more consistent.

One problem he certainly didn't have in Toronto was getting run support, which sadly, Doc has had trouble with the last few seasons, good thing he's just that damn good he can win most games by himself.

But Burnett had the tendency to have one or two bad innings a game and any lead he had, no matter how big, would be gone.

I really think he needs to develop a third pitch and then he may be a dominant pitcher.

I'll tell you this. The moment he starts to flounder in NY, the fans won't be so nice about it like they were in Toronto, except for me of course lol.

[fren.]

Dude, have you actually SEEN Burnett pitch when he's having a bad game, which happens more often than not, unless its last season where he finally pitched well. Took him long enough though.

When he's off, he has a tendency for throwing many curve balls into the dirt and after seeing it so many times, hitters won't chase it. And when I mean throwing it into the dirt, I mean almost having wild pitches.

And saying he has a good fastball/curve combo is a joke. I always say the guy needs to learn a third pitch (like a change up) so he can rely on it when his curve isn't working and he starts to overthrow his fast ball.

And one more thing. Having one good season when the guy has been playing for 10 (in a contract year no less0 doesn't make him the all-star you claim him to be.

Edit* Okay so I was wrong about the high 80s fastball, I'm thinking of someone else, but Burnett doesn't have a dominating fastball anyways.

Jesus you suck. Go google up some scouting reports.

and I never claimed he was an All-Star.

[Brill Weave]

I live in Pittsburgh. The end. And Burnett is decent. Not great. He is being overpaid. Kudos to him for getting more than he's worth.

[BadKarma]

Then learn how to sense "hating" better. No hate going on here. I'm just saying that you'd never want to admit a lesser team beat you (meaning I was saying I thought Boston was somewhat better), so how is that hating? =p

I have no problems admitting it, since it did in fact happen. Although i do think the Sox would have given the Phillies a swift backhand to the face.