2009 MLB season discussion*

[Trichocyst]

I haven't been to either. I wish I have. I'm sure the new stadium is beautiful, comfortable, and I know the clubhouses are amazing. But for all the amenities the stadium has, it's deeply flawed. I don't know how you build a ballpark, but from the outside it looks like they tore down a historic landmark and built a funhouse.

[Viq]

Burnett brought that Yankee Stadium wind with him to Boston. Did you see that ball Ortiz hit into center? C'mon, it's Ortiz in 2009. There had to be something else going on to get that ball out.

[Trichocyst]

I'm also giving kudos to the Mets giving Santana the swing away sign 0-2.

[Cephius]

I haven't been to either. I wish I have. I'm sure the new stadium is beautiful, comfortable, and I know the clubhouses are amazing. But for all the amenities the stadium has, it's deeply flawed. I don't know how you build a ballpark, but from the outside it looks like they tore down a historic landmark and built a funhouse.

Who decided it isn't correctable, anyway. The old Stadium hasn't even been torn down yet, and they can't make changes to the ballpark midseason. I'm sure they'll either work on closing off the open windows upstairs, or move the walls back in the offseason. I wouldn't call something like that "deeply flawed". Unintended, yes. Weird, yes. But a lot of parks play small, and it doesn't change anything. The wall is the same distance for both teams. There's no special advantage for the Yanks.

[Trichocyst]

Well the Yankees his more home runs than any other team in baseball and have a chance to break the record for most home runs by a team in a season and they get to play 82 games there, so yeah, I'd say it gives them an advantage.

I'm sure they'll try a variety of things to cut down on home runs whether it's some sort of wind breaking wall or the Coors Field Humidor trick, but I maintain it's a big flaw for the price tag.

[Cephius]

Were you complaining when the Phillies hit 4 in a game there and beat the Yanks 2/3 (should have been a sweep, really)? Like I said, it works both ways. Unless hitting the most HRs in a year gives you some kind of playoff advantage I'm unaware of, it doesn't mean anything. Everyone knows pitching wins games.

A lot of HRs the Yankees have hit there have not been cheap, either. Tex has flirted with the 3rd deck 3 or 4 times now. 8 of Swisher's HRs have come away from YS. We know how far A-rod's HRs travel. Just saying, this isn't the Padres hitting these HRs, theres already a lot of power in the lineup.

[Headspace]

skewed record numbers

[Cephius]

Also as we're talking about this, I think about 6 HRs have been hit in the Phillies/Mets game that Johan started... lol

EDIT: Make that 7. More than YS has given up this year! Must be that New York jet stream!

[pohibaba]

Is it bad that I love seeing Santana getting shelled because it will help Matt Cain get looked out for Cy Young consideration?

[Trichocyst]

Utley, Ibanez, Howard, and Rollins have all homered off Santana tonight. Beltran, Church, and Wright have all hit home runs for the Mets. They're making Citi Field look small tonight. Santana got taken out in the top of the 8th with only 91 pitches thrown and he is pissed. It's a tight game.

[Cephius]

Santana has been amazing up until his last few starts, and he's always been prone to the longball. Everrrrrrrrybody comes back to the mean eventually.

[Akiyama]

Obligatory RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUL.

[Trichocyst]

The Mets have the Phillies number lately. Good game time. Bummer. My ire for the Mets has really taken a severe dive this year even though my friends who like the Mets refuse to acknowledge the Phillies as defending champions. I was told my in April that my celebration period was over. lol.

[pohibaba]

Here's Round 1a and Round 2 for anyone who's interested:

COMP ROUND A
33. Seattle Mariners -- Steven Baron, C, John A. Ferguson HS, Miami
34. Colorado Rockies -- Rex Brothers, LHP, Lipscomb University
35. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Matthew Davidson, 3B, Yucaipa (Calif.) HS
36. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Aaron Miller, LHP, Baylor
37. Toronto Blue Jays -- James Paxton, LHP, Kentucky
38. Chicago White Sox -- Josh Phegley, C, Indiana
39. Milwaukee Brewers -- Kentrail Davis, CF, Tennesse
40. Los Angeles Angels -- Tyler Skaggs, LHP, Santa Monica (Calif.) HS
41. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Christopher Owings, SS, Gilbert (S.C.) HS
42. Los Angeles Angels -- Garrett Richards, RHP, Oklahoma
43. Cincinnati Reds -- Brad Boxberger, RHP, USC
44. Texas Rangers -- Tanner Scheppers, RHP, St. Paul Saints
45. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Mike Belfiore, LHP, Boston College
46. Minnesota Twins -- Matt Bashore, LHP, Indiana
47. Milwaukee Brewers -- Kyle Heckathorn, RHP, Kennesaw State University
48. Los Angeles Angels -- Tyler Kehrer, LHP, Eastern Illinois
49. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Victor Black, RHP, Dallas Baptist University

SECOND ROUND
50. Washington Nationals -- Jeff Kobernus, 2B, California
51. Seattle Mariners -- Rich Poythress, 1B, Georgia
52. San Diego Padres -- Everett Williams, CF, McCallum HS, Austin, Texas
53. Pittsburgh Pirates -- Brooks Pounders, RHP, Temecula (Calif.) Valley HS
54. Baltimore Orioles -- Mychal Givens, RHP, Plant HS, Tampa, Fla.
55. San Francisco Giants -- Tommy Joseph, C, Horizon HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.
56. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Blake Smith, RHP, California
57. Cincinnati Reds -- Billy Hamilton, SS, Taylorsville (Miss.) HS
58. Detroit Tigers -- Andy Oliver, LHP, Oklahoma State
59. Colorado Rockies -- Nolan Arenado, 3B, El Toro (Calif.) HS
60. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Eric Smith, RHP, Rhode Island
61. Chicago White Sox -- Trayce Thompson, OF, Santa Margarita HS, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif.s
62. Texas Rangers -- Tom Mendonca, 3B, Fresno State
63. Cleveland Indians -- Jason Kipnis, CF, Arizona State
64. Arizona Diamondbacks -- Marc Krauss, OF, Ohio University
65. Los Angeles Dodgers -- Garrett Gould, RHP, Maize HS, Wichita, Kan.
66. Florida Marlins -- Bryan Berglund, RHP, Royal HS, Simi Valley, Calif.
67. St. Louis Cardinals -- Robert Stock, C, USC
68. Toronto Blue Jays -- Jake Eliopoulos, LHP, Sacred Heart Catholic HS, Newmarket, Ontario
69. Houston Astros -- Tanner Bushue, RHP, Farina (Ill.) South Central HS
70. Minnesota Twins -- Billy Bullock, RHP, Florida
71. Chicago White Sox -- David Holmberg, LHP, Port Charlotte (Fla.) HS
72. New York Mets -- Steven Matz, LHP, Ward Melville HS, East Setauket, N.Y. N.Y.
73. Milwaukee Brewers -- Maxwell Walla, RF, Albuquerque Academy, Albuquerque, N.M.
74. Milwaukee Brewers -- Cameron Garfield, C, Murrieta Valley HS, Calif.
75. Philadelphia Phillies -- Kelly Dugan, CF, Notre Dame HS, Calif.
76. New York Yankees -- J.R. Murphy, C, Pendleton HS, Bradenton, Fla.
77. Boston Red Sox -- Alex Wilson, RHP, Texas A&M
78. Tampa Bay Rays -- Kenny Diekroeger, SS, Menlo HS, Calif.
79. Chicago Cubs -- D.J. LeMahieu, INF, LSU
80. Los Angeles Angels -- Patrick Corbin, LHP, Chipola Junior College

[fren.]

Man, if Texas signs both of their first two picks that stacked farm is gonna be beyond fucking stacked with pitching, shit.

[Cephius]

Whatever the Yankees decided to play tonight it wasn't baseball. Haven't seen them that dead all year. Does Boston have their number or what? I doubt Wang does the job tomorrow, I look to CC to save us from 0-8...

[fren.]

30-13 against everyone else though!

[Cephius]

Not comforting lol... maybe the Yanks learned from the 07 Indians/Yanks series and the 08 Angels/Sox series and are trying to reverse jinx themselves by losing every game... lol

[Viq]

That was the Sox first shutout of the season.

[pohibaba]

Round Three
81. Nationals: Trevor Holder, RHP, Georgia
82. Mariners: Kyle Seager, 2B, UNC
83. Padres: Gerald Sullivan, RHP, Oral Roberts
84. Pirates: Evan Chambers, CF, Hillsborough CC
85. Orioles: Tyler Townsend, 1B, Florida International
86. Giants: Christopher Dominguez, 3B, Louisville
87. Braves: David Hale, RHP, Princeton
88. Reds: Donnie Joseph, LHP, Houston
89. Tigers: Wade Gaynor, 3B, Western Kentucky
90. Rockies: Ben Paulsen, 1B, Clemson
91. Royals: William Myers, C, Wesleyan Christian Academy (Nc.)
92. Athletics: Justin Marks, LHP, Louisville
93. Rangers: Robert Erin, LHP, Scotts Valley HS (Ca.)
94. Indians: Joe Gardner, RHP, UC Santa Barbara
95. Diamondbacks: Keon Broxton, 3B, Santa Fe CC
96. Dodgers: Brett Wallach, RHP, Orange Coast CC
97. Marlins: Da'Shon Cooper, CF, Edison HS (Ca.)
98. Cardinals: Joseph Kelly, LHP, UC Riverside
99. Blue Jays: Jake Barrett, RHP, Desert Ridge (Az.)
100. Astros: Telvin Nash, OF, Griffin HS (Ga.)
101. Twins: Ben Tootle, RHP, Jacksonville St.
102. White Sox: Bryan Morgado, LHP, Tennessee
103. Mets: Robert Shields, SS, Florida Southern
104. Blue Jays: Jacob Marisnick, CF, Riverside Poly HS (Ca.)
105. Brewers: Josh Prince, SS, Tulane
106. Phillies: Kyrell Hudson, CF, Evergreen HS (Ws.)
107. Red Sox: David Renfroe, SS, South Palona (Ms.)
108. Rays: Todd Glaesman, CF, Midway HS (Tx.)
109. Cubs: Austin Kirk, LHP, Owasso HS (Ok.)
110. Angels: Josh Spence, LHP, Arizona State