SMN EXP leveling style still exists?

[Pikarya]

Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI: Summoner

alot of places actually, just google and you'll find 4-5 links right there.

[Syntex]

Well fine if you wanna be bitchy about it then I wont be helpful

And I never said I came up with it, or that I wanted credit for it.

[D44kpunk]

Hope you realize how stupid you are for explaining the process to people. You didn't think up SMN burn, you aren't going to get credit for it, and now there will be allatards+BGers in SMN burning spots all the time.

[Aro]

Hope you realize how stupid you are for explaining the process to people. You didn't think up SMN burn, you aren't going to get credit for it, and now there will be allatards+BGers in SMN burning spots all the time.

I don't know how much he explained but there is a *key* part to smn burning that might not be so obvious to everyone, which is what causes people to steer away from it. Chances are unless you invest a lot of time figuring out a good strategy then there won't be a lot of people doing it. They'll try it, wipe, then stop trying because they got frustrated. I think that's the key to why K. Tunnel is not overrun now, and I've seen SMN burns go wrong because of the missing *key*. Another thing is people screaming "Omgawd thatzz an exploitt!!11 11oena imgay!!.1" and not even trying it out of fear.

[Destinye]

this is so true

but then again we dont exactly know whats legit and not since SE is so strange about communication

No, people know what is and isn't "legit", you guys just love to live in your delusional state of mind and try to justify shit that is known to not be legit, therefore with the line so blurred by the people they assume SE is just "unclear" about it..however no one has thrown around the word "exploit" anymore than they have in the past...it's just people are actually caring about it now.

Anyway, some GMs have said that this situation is being looked at, but they aren't going to mess with it..yet.

[ringthree]

No, people know what is and isn't "legit", you guys just love to live in your delusional state of mind and try to justify shit that is known to not be legit, therefore with the line so blurred by the people they assume SE is just "unclear" about it..however no one has thrown around the word "exploit" anymore than they have in the past...it's just people are actually caring about it now.

Anyway, some GMs have said that this situation is being looked at, but they aren't going to mess with it..yet.

Duping in Salvage is an exploit.

SMN burning is just a way to get XP. You could have done it before Level Sync, you just needed to be the right level and had the right people.

Stop saying that everyone is an "exploit", you sound like an 8 year old that is just aping everything that an adult is saying.

[Damane]

No, people know what is and isn't "legit", you guys just love to live in your delusional state of mind and try to justify shit that is known to not be legit, therefore with the line so blurred by the people they assume SE is just "unclear" about it..however no one has thrown around the word "exploit" anymore than they have in the past...it's just people are actually caring about it now.

Anyway, some GMs have said that this situation is being looked at, but they aren't going to mess with it..yet.

Why is this considered an exploit? I mean who the fuck reports this shit lol

I am not a SMN myself, but please let SMN have a way to earn fast exp... Its like the same shit with BLM in sea, the SMN Aern nerf. People nerfing the shit out of the way how mages gain exp!
Do you like SMN in exp/burn pts? probably not, stop careing about them then and let them do their stuff!

[Okan]

Do you like SMN in exp/burn pts? probably not, stop careing about them then and let them do their stuff!

You become a sub-par WHM when you join EXP PTs on SMN. Everyone know this. So Damane is right. Let SMNs have their 15 minutes of fame.

[richardd]

theyll probably nerf it in the future.

I wouldnt be surprised in the least, especially now that RMT are doing it now. I'd make it so that they dont give no EXP for all the white mobs killed or something.

[Ashira]

Why the fuck are RMTs leveling SMN?

[Okan]

They're not leveling SMN... They're using SMN to powerlevel their RMT group. They probably jacked some SMN accounts and use it to get 2-3 people up to 75 in a matter of days and then do it again with another 2-3... In a week you'll have 6-10 RMT powered up to 75 on jobs that they need to continue their massive farming efforts.

[richardd]

I just need to find a place that my level 75 SMN can burn down 30+ mobs all worth 300xp each solo, and earn myself a merit with 5 minutes effort spent every 2 hours.

i probably shouldn't give it away, but since most of us are banned, ill explain how we we got like 75k/hr EXP literally, i seen ppl get 7-8 merits in 1 hour.

when i did it, there was a 20 min cooldown instead of 2h. Everyone dual boxed someone. We had 3 SMNs 2 leecher and 1 lvl sync from 11-19 in Korrokula Tunnel. We have 3 trainers start from 3 different zones in the beggining, and it takes like 20 min. We bring like 40-50 mobs each and you have to walk really slow or else they deagro easy. so when you have those 3 ppl get those 40-50 mobs, you bring it to the entrance where the pty is. Have everyone do their thing. AF etc, bewm. There was a time i went from lvl 12-18 in 1 run.

After thats all said and done, we get another couple mules of CORs. Have the 2 leechers and 1 sync drop pty and have the Cors attempt to 2hour reset, if it doesnt work. Leave that same cor in the pty and have ANOTHER cor try it.

God such good memories. I think we've gotten such bad luck streaks and went like 9 cors once lol. But regardless when 1 cor works, that resets the 5 others 2h, which menas you have another 2 COR's ready after the burn.

than repeat step 1.

5 min every 2h? pfft.

The way i explained it will make it look its comparable to finding a glitch in an instanced zone.

[Okan]

A Corsair cannot use Wild Cards to reset another Corsair's Wild Card. If you run back to town though, that Corsair can change job to anything else and do it that way I believe.

[richardd]

A Corsair cannot use Wild Cards to reset another Corsair's Wild Card. If you run back to town though, that Corsair can change job to anything else and do it that way I believe.

oh yeah. thats right. thanks lol

but still, thats an extra 2 wild cards after they change jobs. pretty pimp!

[Elites]

Been trying this for the past couple of weeks, only flaw I noticed is that even when our trainers brought close to 40-50 mobs and we all AF'd, the chain went as high as 23 or something. It's as if some of the mobs that died didn't give EXP at all.

[Nyuneko]

Back before NA release, Bind wouldn't break by a single poke, and it gave BLM an advantage in, well, EXPing, Bind - nukes nukes nukes nukes - profit, so in one of the earlier patches, SE made Bind as good as it is now. And I believe BLMs used to -ga their way thru, similar to the SMN burn right now, and SE didn't like it, so they made it so ga damage is divided the more monster you have.

But, they also lowered the EXP from EM or under in the past(again, prior to NA release), because people were leveling fast with EM-minus spamming, and obviously, SE didn't like it... Then as we all know, they then increase the EXP from EM-minus in a recent patch...

tl;dr? What I am saying is that while SMN burn may not be an "exploit" that can get you banned, but if SE doesn't like the EXP you are getting, they can(and will) go right up and take it away. In another word, it all depends on their mood of the day(or may be the magic ball of wonder and randomess, or the dartboard of fair and equal dealing, or.. oh whatever).

But no, this shouldn't be compared with dupe exploit, because that's just silly.

[Ryany]

If someone tries to fuck with your pull (by doing something like aoeing it as it goes by) and you have the tools to get hit for 0 for 30 seconds, diaga and log out. (your xp is fucked anyway since they touched the enemies / diaga to keep them from sleeping it when they find out they have hate)

Guess who moves up to number 1 on the hate list once you log out? I know those korroloka trains can take out a 75 in about 30 seconds w/o stoneskin/phalanx/cocoon. 50-some enemies hitting for 7 or 8 damage adds up extremely fast.

[Syntex]

tl;dr? What I am saying is that while SMN burn may not be an "exploit" that can get you banned, but if SE doesn't like the EXP you are getting, they can(and will) go right up and take it away. In another word, it all depends on their mood of the day(or may be the magic ball of wonder and randomess, or the dartboard of fair and equal dealing, or.. oh whatever).

Just like the people who got the 72 hour bans lost their duped salvage drops RIGHT? AMIITE?

Since when has SE "taken away" something? They prefer a ban or suspension.

[Rida]

You know the actual explanation of why people were banned in the mass Dupings was "Exploiting Game mechanics" not stealing not cheating. Looks to me "SMN burn" especially the fact it relies on a inbuilt enmity issue for the primary pull. Also usually relying on Dual boxer (also against ToS). Pretty much blows this method of XPing out the water.

Unfortunately "Exploiting Game Mechanics" is a very loose description GL arguing your ban if you ever get one for it.