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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida View Post
    You know the actual explanation of why people were banned in the mass Dupings was "Exploiting Game mechanics" not stealing not cheating. Looks to me "SMN burn" especially the fact it relies on a inbuilt enmity issue for the primary pull. Also usually relying on Dual boxer (also against ToS). Pretty much blows this method of XPing out the water.

    Unfortunately "Exploiting Game Mechanics" is a very loose description GL arguing your ban if you ever get one for it.
    Since when is it against the ToS to have/use two chars?

    You don't NEED windower to control two characters at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raitoken View Post
    Just like the people who got the 72 hour bans lost their duped salvage drops RIGHT? AMIITE?

    Since when has SE "taken away" something? They prefer a ban or suspension.
    By take away he means nerf it into obsolescence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose View Post
    By take away he means nerf it into obsolescence.
    I feel smart now >....>

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackrose View Post
    By take away he means nerf it into obsolescence.
    They did same thing with SA and TA

    no SA or TA on multi hit weaponskills anymore for you!

    no more SA and TA bonus AGI and DEX damage as sj!

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    no more SA from the side/front!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    Since when is it against the ToS to have/use two chars?

    You don't NEED windower to control two characters at once.
    Of course you NEED windower to control two characters at once because SE clearly fails at game design so you're forced to use 3rd party tools on one computer if you want to use more than 1 character at once! God you act like people could just hop onto a laptop or console if they want to control a second character, that's retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    Of course you NEED windower to control two characters at once because SE clearly fails at game design so you're forced to use 3rd party tools on one computer if you want to use more than 1 character at once! God you act like people could just hop onto a laptop or console if they want to control a second character, that's retarded.
    I can hop onto my laptop if I wanted to control a 2. character oO

    People here overreacting to this SMN stuff... the enmity issues was programmed by SE in this way and was allways like that, otherwise Plvling wouldnt work either and would be against ToS. wtf is wrong with you guys, dupeing and this are 2 total different things.

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    Marge with "Legitimacy" thread in Newbie then bump to Advanced. This shit is getting hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardd View Post
    i probably shouldn't give it away, but since most of us are banned, ill explain how we we got like 75k/hr EXP literally, i seen ppl get 7-8 merits in 1 hour.

    when i did it, there was a 20 min cooldown instead of 2h. Everyone dual boxed someone. We had 3 SMNs 2 leecher and 1 lvl sync from 11-19 in Korrokula Tunnel. We have 3 trainers start from 3 different zones in the beggining, and it takes like 20 min. We bring like 40-50 mobs each and you have to walk really slow or else they deagro easy. so when you have those 3 ppl get those 40-50 mobs, you bring it to the entrance where the pty is. Have everyone do their thing. AF etc, bewm. There was a time i went from lvl 12-18 in 1 run.

    After thats all said and done, we get another couple mules of CORs. Have the 2 leechers and 1 sync drop pty and have the Cors attempt to 2hour reset, if it doesnt work. Leave that same cor in the pty and have ANOTHER cor try it.

    God such good memories. I think we've gotten such bad luck streaks and went like 9 cors once lol. But regardless when 1 cor works, that resets the 5 others 2h, which menas you have another 2 COR's ready after the burn.

    than repeat step 1.

    5 min every 2h? pfft.

    The way i explained it will make it look its comparable to finding a glitch in an instanced zone.
    I predict a lot of lost EXP trying to replicate this. Left out something of a key detail >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    I predict a lot of lost EXP trying to replicate this. Left out something of a key detail >_>
    You mean having the puller be /RDM or a RDM/ and spamming Barspells on their self and Cure spells to build enough that that the SMNs won't get zerged after using Astral Flow?

    Making sure there is a COR in the party for the EXP roll?

    Making sure to have ethers/drinks and timing rests between Astral Flows to make sure that all 3 SMNs are able to Astral Flow 3 times to kill the most amount of possible mobs?

    Hope I didn't forget the part about having each SMN go about 10 seconds apart instead of all 3 at once to keep chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinye View Post
    Of course you NEED windower to control two characters at once because SE clearly fails at game design so you're forced to use 3rd party tools on one computer if you want to use more than 1 character at once! God you act like people could just hop onto a laptop or console if they want to control a second character, that's retarded.
    I do ._.

    And shhh!! Okan >_>!

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    Huh? No they'd get EXP otherwise powerleveling would never work. As long as ZERO damage or effects are inflicted on the mob, the person who attacks it will get exp assuming level difference and all that normal jazz. The puller must never damage the mobs, but can heal himself tons to build threat to keep them on himself AS well as barspells are highly encouraged.


    YouTube - FFXI Spelunking (aka SMN burn)
    Looks like they did it more than once D:
    2:10ish and 3:16ish and there is 3 SMNs and there is still things standing after they finish, just about 150 less things...

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    if you do zero damage or affects on the mob. that means you won't build hate on them as you have only aggro/linked them, like super tanking mammets etc.

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    Regardless of how many pullers you have, all outside assistance stays in a single party, and cross paths at a single point. Your 'tank' of sorts rests at said point, acquiring enmity on all targets. Wam, bam, barspell spam. No dead Summoners after Blood Pact: Rage.

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    /heal does the trick for that.

    EDIT: Doh' Thats what I get for not reading all of the last post.

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    If your sync'er isn't getting to at least 19 from level 12 in a single run you're doing it wrong.

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    If RMT are doing this... fight back. There've been tons of GMs and Staff saying that you can do this, its not an exploit but you have to do it without annoying others. If they wanna pull mobs off your train, they may do so and there's nothing you can say about it.

    I saw RMT trying to do this in Korroloka so I taught a bunch of people to diaga their trains on 75 jobs every time they see RMT trying to manage this. Its funny watching them kill the trains only to realize they can't get any exp for any of them. Also yeah its 100% legal too. They tried GMing me once for doing it and the GM basically laughed at them and sent a report to the S.T.F.U. They should be gone soon XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    If your sync'er isn't getting to at least 19 from level 12 in a single run you're doing it wrong.
    We sync to 13 or 14, maybe 15 if we can't find anyone else. They're normally Lv21-22 by time we're done.

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    if rmt is starting to use this, this is gotta blow :\

    atm ifrit have no RMTs on this drug yet

    pros: messing up RMT's xp is always fun haha
    cons: i cant stay in there 24/7 zzz

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    Think of it this way, the more people start doing this the more likely SE is to "fix it", especially if the RMT are doing it now.

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