SMN EXP leveling style still exists?

[Darkrift]

seems like a waste of time to me. To get a few smn'ers and paladins together, go over strat, execute strat. I think I would rather just exp pt. If you screw up at all its just a complete waste of time, and if you cant dual box cor's etc its going to only net you a smaller amount of exp.

I select group of people that have the ambition might make this somewhat worthwhile, but I think for the majority of people out there its a waste of time.


and ppl saying this is along the lines of duping / exploiting game mechanics... srsly what are you thinking? Astral flow was meant to hit anything and everything in radius. Maybe they will nerf it but they arnt going to ban you for this.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Who said anything about Paladins? Honestly, anyone with native enhancing skill and /RDM could do the 'tanking', and having three out-of-parties is simply for convenience. Walk slowly enough, and you can round up the entire zone all by yourself(albeit, some sort of model reducing gimmick is strongly suggested, or you run the risk of getting yourself locked in place). Beyond that, you need three Summoners and someone to sync you. Sure, it requires some coordination, but its not as if its /inclined/ to fail if you've done it before.

[chiyio]

You mean having the puller be /RDM or a RDM/ and spamming Barspells on their self and Cure spells to build enough that that the SMNs won't get zerged after using Astral Flow?

Seeing as how you've mentioned this like 3 times now, I'm going to assume you dont know jack shit about enmity. How are you supposed to build hate on mobs that you are unable to build enmity on (protip: putting yourself on the hate list will make the mobs give 0 xp)?



I could also very well be wrong, but I'm pretty confident on myself, that that huge post of bullshit Richardd posted 1 page back is so full of shit, if not he's highly exaggerating things.

First of all, Summoner's Astral Flow is subject to resists, like any magic based attack in FFXI. The lowest level mobs in Tunnel are the worms, which we all know you cant train. After there are Seeker Bats (22-26, non aggro, linking), Jelly (23-27, aggro, non linking), Combats (27-30, non aggro, linking), Huge Spiders (28-31, non aggro, linking). If you're starting at level 12, as was stated, you're going to get fully resisted on those mobs. No questions about it.

Secondly is a matter of getting those mobs. To get the bats and spiders, you'd need to aggro one of each, then link the rest. The Jellies you'd need to rest near each one and pick them up one by one. Now, if you're picking up "40-50" mobs as he said, the moment you stop and they start swinging at you, unless you're using some program to bypass animation lock (which would be cheating), regardless if they're landing his on your or not, you're not going anywhere. No, I didnt forget that there are BST gigas down there with a pet spider that you could use for linking.

These last two I'm not too certain on, but I'll throw them out there anyways. I dont believe 3 SMN's lv12 Astral Flow has enough firepower to take out "40-50" mobs that are lv22-31. I also believe that any form of multi hit spell or attack can only hit a max of X targets? I dont know what the max is, if such a thing even exists, which is why I said I very well could be wrong.


Within the above, as well as the mere fact he seemed to forget that COR cant reset another COR's 2hr leads me to believe he's talking out of his ass, trying to stir the pot of "is this an exploit or not" because he got banned.

[Aro]

You're actually are pretty wrong.

[Aro]

Korroloka Tunnel is going to get crowded

EDIT: Nvm, post got deleted D:<

[Not Kuno]

Due to rmt abuse, talking about the legitimacy of this is a-ok, giving step by step guides are not ok.

Thanks guys for spamming like 6 threads about this so now rmt can abuse it.

[Airenn]

Kuno makes a good point. /sigh

That being said If it BG won't allow it pubicly on the forums, I won't be replying to anymore PMs or sharing it.

Sorry, guys. Good luck.

[richardd]

um hi.

now its my turn.

I could also very well be wrong, but I'm pretty confident on myself, that that huge post of bullshit Richardd posted 1 page back is so full of shit, if not he's highly exaggerating things.

Within the above, as well as the mere fact he seemed to forget that COR cant reset another COR's 2hr leads me to believe he's talking out of his ass, trying to stir the pot of "is this an exploit or not" because he got banned.

you're a tool. You either read what you want to read or skip the next posts/skim through it. I already pointed out that a COR cant reset it. I made a mistake on explaining it, and that dude helped me out and also provided more of the specifics. I haven't played the game in a bit so forgive me if i don't remember every little specific detail FFXI offers.


point:

A Corsair cannot use Wild Cards to reset another Corsair's Wild Card. If you run back to town though, that Corsair can change job to anything else and do it that way I believe.

oh yeah. thats right. thanks lol

but still, thats an extra 2 wild cards after they change jobs. pretty pimp!

oh good lawd, i got banned so im trying to come up with excuses to make this look almost as bad *gasps*

get the fuck out with that shit. you sound worse than Ringthree.

Just to prove im not talking out of my ass:

This is generally what a chain will look like from a leecher PoV. This was midway so it obviously gets bigger
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/924...0002130wr6.png

This is what it looks like when you train. But the way we did it was serious. We had 3 trainers from the start. you can see the beginning of the next train behind one of my friend's mules he let me play for 2box.
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3599/...9230601ka7.png

and i even PL'd my war from 73-75 in a little over an hour doing this (if anyone makes fun of my gear, ill kill you, i didnt have any war gear to ding into!).
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/445...7020337tj2.png

out of respects to the mods. im obviously not going to go into much more detail anymore...not like itll matter anyways. Okan pretty much nailed it.

[Arthars]

i answered enough PMs as well

now i hope none of them are RMT in disguise

[Tsuko_Asura]

Seeing as how you've mentioned this like 3 times now, I'm going to assume you dont know jack shit about enmity. How are you supposed to build hate on mobs that you are unable to build enmity on (protip: putting yourself on the hate list will make the mobs give 0 xp)?

Seeing as how people don't want this explained in detail any further than it already has, I'll just tell you that you're a fucking idiot.

Enmity has nothing to do with experience points. Ever. There's a massive difference between putting yourself on something's hate list and initiating an action upon it.

[Magnus5557]

advanced

[Darkrift]

thats pretty impressive rich, and at low levels it could be a fun way to gain lvl ups fast.


I still dont think that its THAT worth it though. Maybe if you have a well lubricated static group to do this with, and you were in and out asap I could see it then. Pick up shout could be a disaster.

[richardd]

thats pretty impressive rich, and at low levels it could be a fun way to gain lvl ups fast.


I still dont think that its THAT worth it though. Maybe if you have a well lubricated static group to do this with, and you were in and out asap I could see it then. Pick up shout could be a disaster.

hey man.

yeah for sure, pickups is a no-no on these kinds of things.

Even though you see 6 ppl in my leeching pty, it was actually 3 different ppl (myself included) playing the SMN's and the trainers.

What you see in that SS is what we did every 20-25 min. literally. Sometimes more if we got unlucky with COR rolls. But not too often.

[Liseth]

People who are worried about this being an exploit of some sort just confirms that the community has gotten more paranoid about what constitutes an exploit in the wake of the Salvage bannings. I'd like to think this wasn't an exploit but I'm sure SE can say whatever they want in regards to this. I wouldn't be surprised if they adjusted the damage of Astral Flow in the near future..............and banned all the people that ever got exp off of it! The banning part I doubt would occur, but hey, ya never know with lolSE!

[Not Kuno]

People who are worried about this being an exploit of some sort just confirms that the community has gotten more paranoid about what constitutes an exploit in the wake of the Salvage bannings. I'd like to think this wasn't an exploit but I'm sure SE can say whatever they want in regards to this. I wouldn't be surprised if they adjusted the damage of Astral Flow in the near future..............and banned all the people that ever got exp off of it! The banning part I doubt would occur, but hey, ya never know with lolSE!

Before the salvage bans something like this would have just been removed. After that, alot of blame was placed on BG for not spreading the word. And now the pendulum swings the other way. The community knows about this, though maybe not how to do it, so there is some attempt of transparency. Now it's out of our hands, it's not a "secret BG conspriacy" it's a "don't talk about how to do it, but this type of thing does happen". People didn't think they'd get banned over salvage but lo and behold people vanished. You really don't know what's going on with SE even if GMs don't give a shit.

[Kipling]

hey man.

yeah for sure, pickups is a no-no on these kinds of things.

Even though you see 6 ppl in my leeching pty, it was actually 3 different ppl (myself included) playing the SMN's and the trainers.

What you see in that SS is what we did every 20-25 min. literally. Sometimes more if we got unlucky with COR rolls. But not too often.

Come over to my house you sexy black thang, I'll make sure you get lucky. <3

[Silenka]

Oh jesus christ, gaining levels is NOT an exploit, anyone who thinks so is retarded. This thread is retarded. Chiyio is retarded (but we all knew that).

You are not
a) using a 3rd party program

b) doing anything outside the normal mechanics of the game

and/or

c) abusing anything in any way

when you level up this way.

You were smart and figured out that using SMN's now largely useless 2hr on a bunch of trained mobs would wipe them all out since it distributes damage evenly (which we've known for like 6 years). You don't even need a large capacity of brainpower to figure this shit out.

God sometimes I think retarded monkeys could play this game better than its players do.