RDM-WHM-THF AF Armor to AF +1 Armor

[Drunknmunky]

Same question from my previous post. Wanted get some information about which AF is worth upgrading for Red mage, white mage, and thief to AF+1.

Was about to post these question in the previous thread, but unfortunately was lock and could not post my questions.

Also, have a request if anyone has a link, blog or a information chart towards my questions please send me a private massage

Thanks.

To isladar:

I know it will be extremely difficult for you to control your self, but can you give my thread I least one day before you get all excited and lock it.

I would really appreciate if you let some player’s post their opinion and their information about the jobs I have describe.

Do not get me wrong, I would have done my own research my self about these jobs that I have accomplish taking them to 75, but unfortunately works gets in the way with things.

Thanks.

[Eldelphia]

WHM - Head (best head MND piece), Body (enf), Legs for invent so you can store rest and keep em for repose and they're a healthy MP piece without pwning your HP.

Healer's Mitts +1 will make a marginal difference to Cure V only, however IMO it's not worth losing the haste to full time them. Blessed (+1) are better.

[url=http://eldelphia.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/i-hate-whms-who-cast-in-clerics-pantaloons/]I hate WHMs who cast in Cleric’s Pantaloons

[FailureMidgard]

WHM - Head (best head MND piece), Body (enf), Legs for invent so you can store rest and keep em for repose and they're a healthy MP piece without pwning your HP.

Healer's Mitts +1 will make a marginal difference to Cure V only, however IMO it's not worth losing the haste to full time them. Blessed (+1) are better.

[url=http://eldelphia.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/i-hate-whms-who-cast-in-clerics-pantaloons/]I hate WHMs who cast in Cleric’s Pantaloons

Hands for Mystic Boom/Hexa ;p

[dawdr]

For Thief, hands are always the first thing to get upgraded, because they're a 15% boost to your agility for Trick Attack. After that, body is an option if you don't have something better already, and then maybe feet if you don't have another ranged accuracy piece available.

[Byrd]

RDM - Chapeau / Tabard / Tights -- I would let you determine the order based on play style and other gear you have. Personally, I went Hat > Body > Legs. Most RDM's I've seen might switch Body and Hat, but those are almost undoubtedly the first two chosen.

Hat +1 makes the nuking ability of the hat better, and since the Chapeau is the best of RDM's best nuking pieces to start with, making it better is that much nicer. The Fast Cast is not improved, sadly.

Tabard +1 allows you to rest in a piece of gear that has MP on it, rather than the Errant Houppelande or Yigit Body. It also doesn't have the negative VIT of the Errant Body in case you end up taking damage while resting.

Tights +1 make your Stoneskin cap that much easier to achieve, easing up macro or inventory space. The extra little bit of MND can be helpful in a variety of other ways as well, depending on your other gear.

Gloves +1 and Boots +1 probably aren't worth the time or effort to upgrade, unless you have very few gear options, as both are easily outclassed by AH gear if you're just trying to get the benefits between AF and AF+1.

[Mytiwar]

Thf is hands onry

Some people don't even make a TA gear swap set so for those I would say get nothing.
That is all

[Bakthi]

I upgraded hands first on THF. I have the THF Apollyon item hanging around, so I may upgrade THF feet just for inventory purposes (keeping the extra flee duration around without taking out the entire AF set). I don't really use my THF that often other than solo, but hands are such a good piece that I couldn't pass them up.

WHM, I agree with what has already been said.

[The_OG_Nelta]

The extra flee duration is sex.

[MaachaQ]

The extra flee duration is sex.

The +1 is the same duration Flee as NQ.

[Thorny]

The +1 is the same duration Flee as NQ.

He meant the extra flee duration from NQ, upgrading them saves you from keeping AF out of storage, which you'd know if you even read the thread before trying to look smart.

[The_OG_Nelta]

I love my thf hands though. But definitely THF hands are first.

[rlas549]

For rdm, upgrading the hat is nice I guess if you want to nuke, since you already have the ele skill, but get the bonus int. Body? ugh... Helps as a convert piece if you don't have w.body or goliard, otherwise, you can get errant or yigit body for resting in. Personally? I'd be hard pressed to even upgrade hat, because, well, if I'm un-lazy enough to do eldieme gloves thing, I'd like to store the set.

[Theraven]

well, if I'm un-lazy enough to do eldieme gloves thing, I'd like to store the set.

That's why you upgrade body and hat at least, so you can re-quest it all and store the whole set, while keeping the 2 most useful pieces out.

[Enedin]

I have the RDM upgrade items for 2 years now, and cba. Not a single piece is worth the coins, and the fact you lose the ability to get the stats in 60 cap. RDM AF+1 sucks, and every part of it.

BUT BUT BODY HAS HMP+5

So what, Errant Houppelande is something every RDM carries around anyway.

[Eraphiel]

I have body, head, and legs +1'd, and a full set of the NQ stored. Hat/body are the ones you'd see the most use of, though if you have a fully merited phalanx2 and solo a lot, the legs are handy to keep for a 300 skill set. True, the body's hmp+5 is matched by errant, but I myself have crimson body + af+1, so haven't had a houppelande for a long while now. Also, the additional mp from the body helps to stay around my idle mp given other gearswaps.

[FailureMidgard]

I have the RDM upgrade items for 2 years now, and cba. Not a single piece is worth the coins, and the fact you lose the ability to get the stats in 60 cap. RDM AF+1 sucks, and every part of it.

BUT BUT BODY HAS HMP+5

So what, Errant Houppelande is something every RDM carries around anyway.

Uhhh, if you're gimp/lazy (or 5/5 Mori), then sure.

Otherwise, you can upgrade the hat at the very least, gain 2 int for your nuking set, then request and store?

[Enedin]

Cheap. Not wasting coins/gil on 2 INT.

[FailureMidgard]

Yea, 120k for 2 int is a really rough trade off. Wish I had some upgrades that cheap

[jimbobsonofgod]

I' did

Whm hands
Rdm head
Rdm body
Rdm legs
Thf hands
Soon for thf feet(so don't have to take out of storage).

Then re~quest and put everything into storage.

[Silenka]

WHM - Head (best head MND piece), Body (enf), Legs for invent so you can store rest and keep em for repose and they're a healthy MP piece without pwning your HP.

Healer's Mitts +1 will make a marginal difference to Cure V only, however IMO it's not worth losing the haste to full time them. Blessed (+1) are better.

I hate WHMs who cast in Cleric’s Pantaloons

This. Although I'm currently only planning on doing the head and maaaybe the body. I don't/won't melee whm (unless the new JAs for it are REALLY good). >.>;