Glanzfaust Preliminary Testing

[Cream Soda]

nvm

[Almalexia]

Aside from +2 DMG over Destroyers, there is no damage bonus. And I haven't tried AM3 with Footwork yet... that's worth trying, though, since I was looking to spend 100M for FOOTWORK KNUCKLES.

[Seraph]

Additional Effect: Weakens "Great Expectations" Effect

:-/

[Tsuko_Asura]

I'm genuinely surprised that Kenkonken haven't popped up sooner. Its a long shot, but if 'Suppress Overload' allows frivolous maneuver use, their automaton would be an absolute monster. 28% Haste, 40% Double Attack(ignoring L3 aftermath), and significant pDIF bonuses for melee-friendly situations, and +85% MAB and an 8 second reduction to casting time for magic-friendly situations.

[Araelus]

I'm genuinely surprised that Kenkonken haven't popped up sooner. Its a long shot, but if 'Suppress Overload' allows frivolous maneuver use, their automaton would be an absolute monster. 28% Haste, 40% Double Attack(ignoring L3 aftermath), and significant pDIF bonuses for melee-friendly situations, and +85% MAB and an 8 second reduction to casting time for magic-friendly situations.

If PUP stops being so overlooked and shunned, will it go immediately to being called overpowered? MNK, WAR, SAM, DRK, all have their place and people know them in general, or they think they do. In a similar fashion Glanzfaust is disappointing to me even though I don't play MNK.

But Kenkonken and PUP is a mysterious thing outside of discussions such as this one and http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...s-max-mab.html, and so long as it remains so for a majority of people, it's going to take proportionately longer for the mythic to appear... even if it's a fantastic item.

[Malacite]

Okay finally we have the nail in the coffin...

Glanz had potential, but OAT only on 1 fist?! That's fucking bull crap. FAIL WEAPON.


Unless by some stupid miracle you can use Ascetic's Fury to get AM 3 and then switch out to Spharai and keep the AM...

Alma, you have both weapons IIRC? Have you tried this? For the love of god, this is like the only potential saving grace of the weapon and even then I'm extremely doubtful SE would have left in such a loophole for ppl to exploit.

This ranks right up there with SE's bullshit nerfing of off-handed Relic/Mythics.

[TummieGaruda]

Well the "Surpress Overload" stat is what sticks out when looking at PUP Mythic. Though in all honesty, I don't think it will completely remove overload, but more than likely increase the burden threshold, or increase the burden decay over time.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I know you're right, I was just hoping for it to pique someone's curiosity other than my own, and see it upgraded. Heaven knows we're going to see seven more Burtgangs before a Kenkonken pops up. =/

[Acturus]

If PUP stops being so overlooked and shunned, will it go immediately to being called overpowered? MNK, WAR, SAM, DRK, all have their place and people know them in general, or they think they do. In a similar fashion Glanzfaust is disappointing to me even though I don't play MNK.

But Kenkonken and PUP is a mysterious thing outside of discussions such as this one and http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...s-max-mab.html, and so long as it remains so for a majority of people, it's going to take proportionately longer for the mythic to appear... even if it's a fantastic item.

Didn't we have a PUP as an early predictor for Mythic upgrading way back when?

[TummieGaruda]

I know you're right, I was just hoping for it to pique someone's curiosity other than my own, and see it upgraded. Heaven knows we're going to see seven more Burtgangs before a Kenkonken pops up. =/

Yeah, right now Kenkonken seems to be worthy of upgrading compared to the others....

Didn't we have a PUP as an early predictor for Mythic upgrading way back when?

That person was using a CS viewer to dig into the CS's to find out how to finish the quests.

[Neosutra]

So are people finally agreeing with me that SE butt fucked the playerbase and released a shit storm of suck that not only robbed people of time spent, but insulted their intelligence?

Or am I still over-reacting?

[Cutriss]

So are people finally agreeing with me that SE butt fucked the playerbase and released a shit storm of suck that not only robbed people of time spent, but insulted their intelligence?

Or am I still over-reacting?

Can't it be both?

[Neosutra]

True enough.

[Gtype954]

Spoiler: show

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Playing around with MNK/SAM now (Brutal removed):

Lv.3 Aftermath bonus to attack rounds occurs ~50% of the time.

However, unlike the Double Attack effect or Faith Baghnakhs, AM3 does not count fists individually; AM3 considers both punches as a single attack round and adds another fist 50% of the time. In other words, a MNK with no DA/TA bonuses can have up to 4 attacks in a single attack round using Glanzfaust: 2 ordinary punches, 1 AM3 punch and a kick.

What I need to determine is whether or not AM3 interferes with a normal DA effect on, say, MNK/WAR or a MNK with Fighter's Roll. My limited testing of Glanzfaust MNK/WAR points to I DON'T KNOW. The greatest number of attacks I've seen so far with MNK/WAR is the usual 1-2-3-4-Kick.

Additionally, the Focus +5% attack does not calculate after Berserk.
Dodge doesn't augment anything I can see from status window.

209TP = +23 ATK from AM2
251TP = +40 ATK from AM2
298TP = +58 ATK from AM2

AM1 testing I will do another time. I will also do a Destroyers/Glanzfaust meritparse sometime this week to determine whether or not I will quit the game forever.

Spoiler: show

Or upgrade PUP.

Was so sure these weapons would add Jailer style double attack, that I would of betted my balls on it.
This is the most disappointing thing I have probably ever read about any equipment in this game.
We the players are making these weapons expensive, these alexandrite are worth 500gil each after reading this. Hell, if these weapons got spammed in this game, it would not even break the game.
Why must SE make near impossible tasks to complete a weapon that would not even be broken even if 500 MNKs had it.
Everyone and their mom has destroyers and hagun and that didn't even break the game.

If SE added Utsusemi:San to the NIN mythic or Comet/Meteor to the blm mythic and made the quests so hard that only 1-2 ppl on a server could get the weapon, then at least I would understand why the quest is so hard.

I guess from playing the other FF games and playing Ninja Gaiden, I'm used to overpowered weapons with cool finishers. Thats why I love RPGS so much, and after wasting years on this game, every new peice I get always disppoints me and I just now realized this... The only good weapon in this game that lives up to the standards is the Excaliber and the k-club and maybe ridill on pre-nerfed RNG.

BTW, Don't expect PUP mythic to be good, it will be a peice of shit I guarentee it. It won't prevent you from overloading, it will just supress it by a few mins at most by being able to use the manever a few extra times before getting the shaft.

Took literally a year to gather the mass power that we have now for einherjar, and nyzul turned out to be way harder then I ever expected doing over 200 pick-up runs for tokens.

Assault was easy was shouting for each assault took over 5 hrs and sometimes more then 1 day to shout for it.

I feel victory, I almost got mythic weapon..... no, my weapon turns out to suck when I finish most the quests... Very stressful quests too that make me want to punch Mrs.Doubtfire.

defense is the best offense.. guess burtgang is the only good weapon in the entire series of mythics. Once again SE ruins mnk though again, as every other weapon can double attack just fine except the PUP hands too.

I am kinda glad these weapons sucked so I didn't have to go through that relic stress all over again, just wished I knew this before getting 60k ampoules and 150k tokens, and doing captain twice. It was a fun road, I'll catch you on Rapture Alma.... If the weapons are to my standard.

I typing alot today cause I now just read this posts today, and what a damn shame, I even called in sick for work to get that odin title, working towards this weapon has even made me lose a job due to lack of sleep and focus lol, and for nothing.

If they wanted this game to last longer and create new weapons for ppl to work towards, they should have just released a series of quests to get HQ dynamis relics. +1's. Like Spharai with +48 delay lol.

i'm out, gonna get some rest and look for another job >_>.

[Odin'sLaw]

So are people finally agreeing with me that SE butt fucked the playerbase and released a shit storm of suck that not only robbed people of time spent, but insulted their intelligence?

Or am I still over-reacting?

Go Go Magic 8 Ball Of Cock Knocking

[Kairos]

QQ QQ QQ QQ



oh the tears and sadness, such despair. I love it. gtype is my new favorite person if alexandrite actually drop that low. i'll do 2 mythics then, maybe 3.

[Cutriss]

guess burtgang is the only good weapon in the entire series of mythics.

Spoken like a true melee.

[Hyan]

I guess they found a good balance, below relics but above normal weapons in most cases.. too bad one tiny thing went wrong and spoiled the whole quest.

[Yugl]

I typing alot today cause I now just read this posts today, and what a damn shame, I even called in sick for work to get that odin title, working towards this weapon has even made me lose a job due to lack of sleep and focus lol, and for nothing.

If they wanted this game to last longer and create new weapons for ppl to work towards, they should have just released a series of quests to get HQ dynamis relics. +1's. Like Spharai with +48 delay lol.

i'm out, gonna get some rest and look for another job >_>.

Holy shit, you have issues beyond FFXI.

[Dimmauk]

So the only reason to get a mythic is for town gear? The fact that weapons you get for BC fights is better than mythics is fucked up.