Glanzfaust Preliminary Testing

[Kairos]

I'm a die hard SMN and I wouldn't waste a penny on Nirvana unless it was the last thing in this game I needed.

well, never asked you to spend anything. You don't like it, just don't get it.

I'm sure we'd all like to see something formal done about glanz testing though (maybe a different shorthand for it is in order, it sounds too much like glans).

[LD]

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Didn't realize "help what the job does already" meant "marginal bonuses for a multi-million gil trophy." None of the Mythics are good. Time to pull an all-nighter and shit ourselves, we gotta put the fear of God into SE again.

[Shinryuu]

My main gripe is that dodge's +counter is reportedly less on a 2:00/5:00 JA than it is fulltime on a cheaper alternative, focus' attack bonus is only slightly better on a 2:00/5:00 than it is fulltime on aforementioned alternative. Likewise its critical hit bonus is also less than another (free!) alternative. It just seems really, really dumb.

I mean, joyeuse tank all you want, Burtgang's going to have its situational uses (raw tanking) and in those situations it's going to be the best, by far. Glanzfaust's use is now limited to fights where you'd build to 300 TP in order to gain a marginal damage benefit compared to Destroyers/Faith Baghnaks/Shenlong's.

[fren.]

oh look at me... I just did Asuran on a wild Rabbit and it only did 56 damage with the Destroyers. I just did Asuran Fists with the Tropical Punches and did more dmg on that lesser colibre... Oh my Parse Data is so accurate. /sarcasm off.

Something about this just screams, "Retard."

[Tadghostal]

Glanzfaust's use is now limited to fights where you'd build to 300 TP in order to gain a marginal damage benefit compared to Destroyers/Faith Baghnaks/Shenlong's.

Fights that you'd have to be retarded to lose in the first place.

[JigglyJam]

Well so far the general consensus mythics are pretty disappointing for the amount of effort required?

I want to see a kenKOOONken though. If it eliminates overload like Overdrive I think I'll jizz my pants.

[Melios]

Didn't realize "help what the job does already" meant "marginal bonuses for a multi-million gil trophy." None of the Mythics are good. Time to pull an all-nighter and shit ourselves, we gotta put the fear of God into SE again.

People are way too obsessed over Absolute Virtue, Pandemonium Warden, cheese sandwiches, and having to compete with botters for their precious Ridill. They're not going to bring up issues that actually matter with SE, not when they have frivolous demands to make.

That's (part of the reason) why Salvage drop rates, SMN job issues, and BLM/SCH mythic inferiority is going on; they're too concerned with getting a goddamn Ridill or Ninurta's Sash to care about what affects the majority of the playerbase.

[Tankjr]

Time to pull an all-nighter and shit ourselves, we gotta put the fear of God into SE again.

Let's make out.

[Xno Kappa]

Who the hell still cares about a Ridill post-2H patch?

[frodnonnag]

Who the hell still cares about a Ridill post-2H patch?

seriously, let fafnir and the shitty aerydrama die pls.

[Gtype954]

Fights that you'd have to be retarded to lose in the first place.

Yea, You only need to completely beat einherjar, salvage, nyzul isle,assaults ZNMs and every damn HNM in the entire TOAU expansion except for PW. Once again, another bad post and it you failed at it.

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My main gripe is that dodge's +counter is reportedly less on a 2:00/5:00 JA than it is fulltime on a cheaper alternative, focus' attack bonus is only slightly better on a 2:00/5:00 than it is fulltime on aforementioned alternative. Likewise its critical hit bonus is also less than another (free!) alternative. It just seems really, really dumb.

I mean, joyeuse tank all you want, Burtgang's going to have its situational uses (raw tanking) and in those situations it's going to be the best, by far. Glanzfaust's use is now limited to fights where you'd build to 300 TP in order to gain a marginal damage benefit compared to Destroyers/Faith Baghnaks/Shenlong's.

Finally a good damn post. That hit the nail on the head. What you just said about glanzfaust pretty sums it up perfectly. Also, the crit hit rate might be 6% it really hasn't been tested yet fully I dont think, and the counter was said to reach 10%... It could be a clone weapon lolol. If the crit hit rate is 5%, maybe they wanted to be asses so you don't throw away those destroyers just yet.. cause SE is so stuck up on keeping all your crap for different situations and having no inventory space(ps2 limitatations) to make up for it.

But seriously though, I see what they tried to do with these weapons. They said it was not meant to be stronger then relic but will rival it with use of your TP. These weapons were meant for TP they said.
So technically, Lvl 2 aftermath and the focus will give more then +20 attack from the relic h2h.
Lvl1 Aftermath will give more acc then the Shenlongs I would hope.
And lvl3 aftermath will very likely have more DoT then the relic h2h while it is active.
I still don't see why ppl argue saying that a joytoyjailer type weapon but with the same DMG rating as single hit weapons for the weapon class isn't broken.


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Originally Posted by Gtype954
oh look at me... I just did Asuran on a wild Rabbit and it only did 56 damage with the Destroyers. I just did Asuran Fists with the Tropical Punches and did more dmg on that lesser colibre... Oh my Parse Data is so accurate. /sarcasm off.

And to you Fren. Even when I say I am being sarcastic and making a joke. You still say my quote above screams that I am a retard. Do you see the /sarcasm off at the end of the sentence? It called being sarcastic and joking, the only retard here is you.
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In closing, I ain't saying the weapon it worth the effort. I ain't saying it got more counter and base DMG rating on it cause it don't. Not saying it got more crit hit rate then destroyers cause of right now it don't. Not saying it has more attack then relic cause it don't. Hell without the Aftermath active or the Augment active, the glanzfaust isn't even better then destroyers.
BTW I have relic h2h, hope that doesn't give me up... Maybe I am just butt-hurt that SE made a better which can SITUATIONALLY be better.

Conqueror has what? 93 DMG and attacks twice? These weapons go into broken mode with the aftermath, period.

[Thorny]

Hell without the Aftermath active or the Augment active, the glanzfaust isn't even better then destroyers.

The aftermath requires using a weaponskill that's pure shit instead of asuran, it's not worth it.

I have relic h2h

So any Seraph people want to clarify if Knuckle or Bluefox are this retarded? Pretty sure it's not Nagamaki, going by his previous posts.. any other spharai there?

[Malacite]

Yah I really don't get why people are bashing it.

Okay yes, in all seriousness it's really not worth the BS effort (most of the mythics aren't quite frankly) but there's no denying that with level 3 AM and Hundred Fists it is the best Zerging weapon for a MNK bar none. Or did 50~70% (has ANYONE fucking confirmed the exact percentage yet?) OAT on a 20 damage weapon suddenly become shitty?

Shikikoyo/Sleep Pots/Icarus Wing {You can have this}


Even merit PT it's still semi-debatable if this is good or not. Yeah 1 good feather tickle and you're fucked but Birds aren't the only merit mobs either. Gotta wait for Alma to finish it and get the testing done.

Sounds to me like the majority of you are still butt-hurt over what a shitty job SE did on the Mythics.

[Zilong]

0/2 on last tygers, unless anyone wanna donate him a tail, he's not gonna get it anytime soon lol

[Magnus5557]

Do you get a status icon for Aftermath after you WS? Or do you just WS and assume you're "Aftermath'd"? And is it known how long each level of Aftermath lasts, and whether or not using alternate weaponskills makes it wear off?

[Arthars]

i think mythic weapon is already dead the moment jackyl found out that the DA bonus is 300% onry

it doesnt matter if 300% will outparse any H2H because im sure it wont, or maybe come close.........

i think when you wanna start a fight, make sure you have the paperwork ready gtype because obviously you are going to lose anyday in this debate

[Spira]

well, never asked you to spend anything. You don't like it, just don't get it.

I'm sure we'd all like to see something formal done about glanz testing though (maybe a different shorthand for it is in order, it sounds too much like glans).

technically its possible to get without spending any money at all too. it'd just take an awfully long time to gather all the alex you need..

i officially started working on my mythic last month. It'll take a while before I even clear ichor and tokens but it finally gives me something to work at..

...
i think glanz is a nice shorthand for it lol...
"you just gonna stand there or pick up that shiny news glanz of yours and show me how tough you are?"

[Seraphim]

Tadghostal officially has the best. sig. ever.

Hurray for getting a million luminion chips when we farm grah chips. Yay Faith's!

[Burnsy]

Yea, You only need to completely beat einherjar, salvage, nyzul isle,assaults ZNMs and every damn HNM in the entire TOAU expansion except for PW. Once again, another bad post and it you failed at it.
^ you've failed and been whooshed for 3 pages and havent realized it. You don't even post screen's of your gear, don't have either relic, or mythic, and probably have unlocked destroyers.
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Finally a good damn post. That hit the nail on the head. What you just said about glanzfaust pretty sums it up perfectly. Also, the crit hit rate might be 6% it really hasn't been tested yet fully I dont think, and the counter was said to reach 10%... It could be a clone weapon lolol. If the crit hit rate is 5%, maybe they wanted to be asses so you don't throw away those destroyers just yet.. cause SE is so stuck up on keeping all your crap for different situations and having no inventory space(ps2 limitatations) to make up for it.

^ These are the parts that prove all of your arguements are baseless and completely unknown speculation, you should have shut up, but you kept going.

But seriously though, I see what they tried to do with these weapons. They said it was not meant to be stronger then relic but will rival it with use of your TP. These weapons were meant for TP they said.
So technically, Lvl 2 aftermath and the focus will give more then +20 attack from the relic h2h.
Lvl1 Aftermath will give more acc then the Shenlongs I would hope.
And lvl3 aftermath will very likely have more DoT then the relic h2h while it is active.
I still don't see why ppl argue saying that a joytoyjailer type weapon but with the same DMG rating as single hit weapons for the weapon class isn't broken.

^ You are a MONK "supposedly" so I'm going to take it on "FAITH", that you hold TOAU Developers as God, because thats when you leveled monk, and you are a goddamned fucktard.


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Originally Posted by Gtype954
oh look at me... I just did Asuran on a wild Rabbit and it only did 56 damage with the Destroyers. I just did Asuran Fists with the Tropical Punches and did more dmg on that lesser colibre... Oh my Parse Data is so accurate. /sarcasm off.

And to you Fren. Even when I say I am being sarcastic and making a joke. You still say my quote above screams that I am a retard. Do you see the /sarcasm off at the end of the sentence? It called being sarcastic and joking, the only retard here is you.


^ Learn to use proper grammar.
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In closing, I ain't saying the weapon it worth the effort. I ain't saying it got more counter and base DMG rating on it cause it don't. Not saying it got more crit hit rate then destroyers cause of right now it don't. Not saying it has more attack then relic cause it don't. Hell without the Aftermath active or the Augment active, the glanzfaust isn't even better then destroyers.
BTW I have relic h2h, hope that doesn't give me up... Maybe I am just butt-hurt that SE made a better which can SITUATIONALLY be better.
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You contradict your stance on the last 3 posts you made calling everyone on BG idiots, gimps, what have you. Whatever rock you crawled out from under, unplug your ethernet cable, and slam your face into yur monitor as hard as you possibly can.
Conqueror has what? 93 DMG and attacks twice? These weapons go into broken mode with the aftermath, period.
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LEARN TO QUOTE. ^_^

[Alistaire]

Why do you people turn on stupid when these get completed?

Honestly the reason has to be that the person that said these wouldn't be as strong as relic, said basically in the same sentence they were easier to get as well, so people wrote that statement off as being clueless. Not saying I think they're right to think that, just that I'm pretty sure that's why this idea seems to have stuck.