Acorn breaking into houses

[Fhqwghads]

I'm very sure whoever currently owns the property isn't just trying to flip it for a quick buck.

Who cares what reasons the person who bought it has, that's completely irrelevant. The point is these morons are invading someone else's home after it was sold. Not that banks holding onto what amounts to their property is wrong in the first place if they can't find a buyer right off the bat. It doesn't matter under what light you examine it, what these people are doing with MY money is illegal, period, and they aren't helping anyone by doing this.

[Correction]

Except, again, for those awful homeless and penniless people.

[Fhqwghads]

Except, again, for those awful homeless and penniless people.

So go bust out with your Robin Hood outfit and force people better off than the ones living on the streets to give you goods, property, and money, and give what you steal to the homeless. That's basically the mentality you have with what these people are doing.

[MarkM.]

I'm with Fhqwghads, it sucks people got homes they can't afford and are getting kicked out of them, but the actual numbers are like 8% of the population of the country. If you lost your job and can't make your mortgage that's one thing, but like he posted earlier, if you make 2,200 a month and your mortgage is 1900, gtfo.

And also, ACORN is getting like 1.5 billion in the spending package that Obama signed last week.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Were people who grew up in conservative households taught that Robin Hood was the bad guy and the Sheriff of Nottingham was the good guy?

[pohibaba]

Were people who grew up in conservative households taught that Robin Hood was the bad guy and the Sheriff of Nottingham was the good guy?

Ragnar Danneskjold: "But I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in."

Hank Rearden: "What man?"

Ragnar: "Robin Hood."

Ragnar: ". . . [Robin Hood] is not remembered as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive."

[Kuya]

Were people who grew up in conservative households taught that Robin Hood was the bad guy and the Sheriff of Nottingham was the good guy?

Incredibly fucking likely, my friend, incredibly fucking likely.

[Kuya]

Ragnar Danneskjold: "But I’ve chosen a special mission of my own. I’m after a man whom I want to destroy. He died many centuries ago, but until the last trace of him is wiped out of men’s minds, we will not have a decent world to live in."

Hank Rearden: "What man?"

Ragnar: "Robin Hood."

Ragnar: ". . . [Robin Hood] is not remembered as a champion of property, but as a champion of need, not as a defender of the robbed, but as a provider of the poor. He is held to be the first man who assumed a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth which he did not own, by giving away goods which he had not produced, by making others pay for the luxury of his pity. He is the man who became a symbol of the idea that need, not achievement, is the source of rights, that we don’t have to produce, only to want, that the earned does not belong to us, but the unearned does. He became a justification for every mediocrity who, unable to make his own living, had demanded the power to dispose of the property of his betters, by proclaiming his willingness to devote his life to his inferiors at the price of robbing his superiors. It is this foulest of creatures – the double-parasite who lives on the sores of the poor and the blood of the rich – whom men have come to regard as the moral idea." ". . . Do you wonder why the world is collapsing around us? That is what I am fighting, Mr. Rearden. Until men learn that of all human symbols, Robin Hood is the most immoral and the most contemptible, there will be no justice on earth and no way for mankind to survive."

I thought the world was collapsing around us because banks like to make money, oh and they like it when you bail them out when they fuck up.

[kuronosan]

Yes, folks. That is the reason for all of our problems in the world. A children's story.

Next thing you know, they will be blaming Pocahontas for pre-marital sex and adolescent pregnancy. It wasn't but 200-300 years ago that 14 year olds were engaged in responsible marriages.

[pohibaba]

I thought the world was collapsing around us because banks like to make money, oh and they like it when you bail them out when they fuck up.

Is that supposed to be some kind of shot at me? I'm less against the money that we're giving them now than I was about the money we were giving them when they were doing well. Anyone who blames the current financial crises on the "free-market" is simply ignorant.

[Kuya]

Not a shot at you, but at what you're saying; man you take things to heart. Also, i doubt free markets had anything to do with this. Assuming you're not just lumping in a bunch of ideas that need not be lumped in with what free markets literally means.

[pohibaba]

Actually I wasn't saying anything. It's a quote from Atlas Shrugged. Was just giving Maxx proof that some conservatives actually are being raised with the idea that Robin Hood was the bad guy.

[Kuya]

I wouldn't call a woman who distrusted everyone and everything an example of what a conservative is. Of course, if you meant that that's what they are being taught then...

[pohibaba]

I wouldn't call a woman who distrusted everyone and everything an example of what a conservative is. Of course, if you meant that that's what they are being taught then...

Pretty much every single Libertarian (and most conservatives, and a good number of liberals) have read this book and accept it as fact. So yes, I think it is what they're being taught.

[guartz]

Were people who grew up in conservative households taught that Robin Hood was the bad guy and the Sheriff of Nottingham was the good guy?

In anarchist households, both are seen as corrupt bastards, and the story is a tragedy because both didn't wipe themselves out, instead one tyrant was traded for another.

[guartz]

I like that first video.

black acorn lady: greedy banks are foreclosing hard working people who pay mortgages.

fox guy: um no, they aren't paying the mortgages, that's why the foreclosure.

black acorn lady: no, they are paying! I believe in them!

[Kuya]

Pretty much every single Libertarian (and most conservatives, and a good number of liberals) have read this book and accept it as fact. So yes, I think it is what they're being taught.

Well that explains the distrust of everyone and everything.

[Maxxthepenguin]

In anarchist households, both are seen as corrupt bastards, and the story is a tragedy because both didn't wipe themselves out, instead one tyrant was traded for another.

I'm surprised there are anarchist households. I would think the parents would realize their power over their kids was so absolutely corruptible that the kids would be better off fending for themselves, growing stronger through struggle against the societal forces of government oppression.

btw: Atlas Shrugged isn't that widely read pohi. So sorry.

[Kuya]

What bothers me about this is, that these home owners (or ex home owners) were victims of predatory lending, and now after the banks fall, these people are left to wonder what happened while the banks themselves receive money instead of being nationalized. These very same people who are likely the victims of the massive downsizing that is going on right now in America. You may say that while the bailout was wrong, that does not make giving these people back their homes right, and i would agree to a certain extant, but i agree with Acorn in that the government, doused in private interests is clearly favoring some parts of America over the others, and i can at least see their racketeering as a sign to people that the government has been taken over by interests not having to do with the common good.

Perhaps it would be better not to tell the government to mind its own business, but for us to mind what the government does and get involved with it again, because if you don't, someone else will, and they will make good use of the government, whether you like it or not.

[pohibaba]

btw: Atlas Shrugged isn't that widely read pohi. So sorry.

Over 6 million copies have been sold, and it still sells about 200,000 every year. It's one of the best selling books in American history. While it certainly hasn't been read by everyone who votes, it is read by the majority of intellectuals on both sides of the aisle.