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    access to information is key for said things, I think. Secular crisis doesn't necessarily need to relate to religious belief or traditions. It could also related to say, the structure of government, political ideologies, etc.

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    One could say, that the current situation with global warming and rampant government loans could be a secular crisis of consumerism. Like so poetically outlined in said video:
    YouTube - Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul.mpg

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    I could agree to that. If i recall, after 9/11, Bush did not ask the American people to stand their ground, support the army, enlist or even support the government, but rather, he asked them to go spend their money. Spend. Instead of, like in times past, asking the population to really buckle up for a war, the Commander in Chief asks the population to spend. Seemingly, the transformation from a nation of citizens to a nation of consumers is compete.

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    I don't think I know anyone who isn't at least mildly disgusted by rampant consumerism in America. In fact, the whole buy now pay later, is probably partly to blame for the mortgage crisis too.

    edit: To add, there was a sort of underground movement against it, I think, early 90s ? Just consumerism is quite resilient. www.hottopic.com lol

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