Faust

[Ultimagi]

I've had 1 shadow left, get a Pecking Flurry, and end up keeping that 1 shadow. Not just once, this happened multiple times while leveling my Ninja. I also happen to evade some things on mage jobs with only 200 evasion skill while the Ninja who is tanking doesn't evade anything for streaks of several minutes.

[Thorny]

I've had 1 shadow left, get a Pecking Flurry, and end up keeping that 1 shadow. Not just once, this happened multiple times while leveling my Ninja. I also happen to evade some things on mage jobs with only 200 evasion skill while the Ninja who is tanking doesn't evade anything for streaks of several minutes.

POIDH, been playing nin since early 2005 and never seen a multihit ws miss and leave shadows up.. if they can, go wear full eva gear and dia spam to feed a lesser colibri or low level goblin tp and should be np getting a screenshot of it. Just make sure you only feed when you have 3/4 shadows up

[Ultimagi]

Only 1 problem, I play on PS2.

[chazzyphizzle]

I've always assumed pretty much all enemy TP moves will take at least 1 shadow, all the time, like ranged attacks. Unless you PD I guess, and yeah, doing birds on my Nin I have parried the last hit of flurry with 3 shadows up and have it register as a miss for me (parry skill up), but have never kept shadows up after it.

[Tarmo]

I've had the same instances as the OP, but I've also had Faust knock me back while only taking 2 shadows. It's happened multiple times and I end up timing Gravity with the next typhoon and then kiting him. I haven't wiped to Faust in a very long time, maybe like 25-30 kills?, but what is described is very annoying and Idk the reason for it, but why would it knock me back if it only took 2 shadows?

[Mayareira]

You can parry or evade if shadows are down, but not with shadows remaining. If you have less shadows than the weaponskill, but after your shadows are gone all remaining hits are parried/guarded/shield blocked/evaded then you'll get the message:
The Greater Colibri uses Pecking Flurry but misses Failure.

This is correct. Go try it on a TW mob, its multi-hit move will always strip your shadows regardless of your significantly high evasion rate.
I've got the "Khimaira uses Tourbillion, but misses Mayareira" message in multiple instances when I got caught with 2~ shadows. But when I had a set of full 3 shadows, it always stripped them all.

[[Cookies]]

Faust is just an asshole in general. I've attempted him ~4 times now and the last attempt I managed to get him down to around 10%.

Everytime i've had bad luck with Binds or he's taken out all 3 shadows and Stoneskin (Stone Gorget, Protect IV, Taco, Phalanx) with 1 Typhoon.

The fight depends a lot on luck and also what level he pops at.

[Clave]

You can parry or evade if shadows are down, but not with shadows remaining. If you have less shadows than the weaponskill, but after your shadows are gone all remaining hits are parried/guarded/shield blocked/evaded then you'll get the message:
The Greater Colibri uses Pecking Flurry but misses Failure.
You still take damage from it if you guarded or shield blocked though, you just don't have any representation in the log.. as I stated earlier, you can easily test by getting a decent amount of evasion and feeding a low accuracy mob TP. If you want to get a screenshot of pecking flurry's line saying it took 1-3 shadows, I'll gladly admit I'm wrong.

This is correct. This coming from a main NIN from late 2004 as well. I still use it every day, and single-target weapon skills will not miss you as long as you have enough shadows as it has hits. They can only miss you once you have no shadows left for a hit. In the case of Pecking Flurry, if you have 3 shadows then the 4th hit can miss you and you will get that the entire thing "missed" in your log, as Thorny said (and your shadows are taken from the first 3 hits).

[Syntex]

YouTube - Faust Solo (1/3)
YouTube - Faust Solo (2/3)
YouTube - Faust Solo (3/3)

Now I watched this a while ago and I don't remember if what the op said happens in the video but I am sure its there just show people what he is talking about.

And it seems relevant to this topic.

[Max™]

I've parried and guarded Goblin rushes too, as I've gotten skillups of both kinds off them.

As for Faust, correct me if I'm wrong, but he doesn't melee at all does he?

[Booty]

I've parried and guarded Goblin rushes too, as I've gotten skillups of both kinds off them.

As for Faust, correct me if I'm wrong, but he doesn't melee at all does he?

Yes, he does melee, just not often. Typhoon > melee Swing > Typhoon is common.

Thanks to the OP for this...thought I was the only one this happened to...

[orson]

Actually he melees fairly often when you straight tank it. Usually if you're a melee job fighting Faust you can run in just after the typhoon animation starts and get a WS or a couple hits in because Faust usually takes 1-2 rounds of swings at the tank.

[shaddix]

I read some youtube comment this guy said that it will only take more than 3 shadows if its hitting more than 1 person. BS? I have no idea.

[Max™]

Never tanked him, just fought him on War, so I just knew Typhoon > Typhoon > I can WS him and run without getting pwned > Typhoon > Typhoon > pause, etc.

[[Cookies]]

I read some youtube comment this guy said that it will only take more than 3 shadows if its hitting more than 1 person. BS? I have no idea.

It's bullshit.

[Booty]

Well to be fair 99.95% of the time I fight this dude is kited, so he doesnt melee much then

I honestly think its just something to do with Double Attack and/or Crit proc or during Typhoon.

Would also explain why sometimes it hits me for 3 figure damage with full buffs and sometimes 0...(i.e not breaking SS)

[Blasta]

I honestly think its just something to do with Double Attack and/or Crit proc or during Typhoon.

I have kited Faust alot and he can rip more than 3 shadows, im fairly sure its his double attack that procs. Best way to survive Typhoon is to keep running while he WS's and bind it from a short distance. (Because he always stops for 1-2 seconds after WS)

[rog]

Well to be fair 99.95% of the time I fight this dude is kited, so he doesnt melee much then

I honestly think its just something to do with Double Attack and/or Crit proc or during Typhoon.

Would also explain why sometimes it hits me for 3 figure damage with full buffs and sometimes 0...(i.e not breaking SS)

pretty sure that's because he has regain, but doesn't need 100+ tp to use typhoon, but it still resets his tp. if you get hit by it without shadows after he's been bound for a minute, without it hitting shadows first then it can do upwards of 1k damage.

and he definitely can not take more than 3 shadows with typhoon.

if he can DA on typhoon (i don't think he can, but not 100% sure), then it would only effect damage, not shadows, since amount of shadows absorbed by an aoe phsyical ws isn't effected by amount of hits, it's (semi)random-ish (well...are there any multi-hit physical aoe WS?).

[Booty]

Well, I have fought Faust a gazillion times (as I'm sure most of us have) and I can only report back my experiences have been, which is:

1) Typhoon can take more than 3 shadows
2) Damage is random (although regain would definately explain this)
3) He can double attack on melee hits for what its worth (dont think this is being debated anyhow)

As for 1)...the only logical reason I can think of it that DA does affect shadows taken, or sometimes he melee swings without it showing in the log.

Next time it happens if I rememebr I'll SS it if the conditions are met and I remember (aka you can see me casting fresh SS, Phalanx and Utsu, and can see Typhoon damage without previous shadows taken)

[rog]

1) Typhoon can take more than 3 shadows

no it can't.