Dumb Fafnir Question.

[_chuchu]

Gotta ES that repose, but the sleep resist still builds

[Aragon of Odin]

Ya we've had our WHM's help sleep Tiamat when just holding, but I'm pretty sure they use Elemental Seal Repose and not Divine Seal. W/o ES I'm not sure if it would land, but same goes for any Sleep on HNM I guess.

[orson]

I don't think there's any NM that doesn't build some resistance to sleep after a while.

[Syntex]

Our ls was made up of like 75% rangers, because ranged attacks didn't account for the mobs level... just stats. You could sidewinder Fafnir almost as hard as as you can currently hit a rarab outside of Windurst...

So true...

My first kirin as RNG I was hitting him for 115+ damage with kabobs and only missing one in 100 shots with 700+ sidewinders at 72, now I hit him for 53@75 miss a lot of WS's and they do about half as much damage.

I miss the good ol days,...

[Thorgridson]

Ya we've had our WHM's help sleep Tiamat when just holding, but I'm pretty sure they use Elemental Seal Repose and not Divine Seal. W/o ES I'm not sure if it would land, but same goes for any Sleep on HNM I guess.

yea I lol every time when ppl say DS repose lulz, did anyone even care to read the description of DS ;P?
"Enhances the potency of your next healing spell"
Since when is repose healing?
And yes its prolly same chance to land repose without ES like with sleep for nin/drks you often see they land it when they build up hate even if it lasts only for a second or two. I remember one Tiamat, shortly after the last SE edit for HNM resistance (grav for Behe and KB, sleep for Faf, Tia etc) that Tiamat was asleep only for one second even with ES just because it build up a heavy resistance due to the bad abuse we did.

Good times with AA rotation and blood tanks was funny as hell lol

[arshesney]

The resistance of the following Notorious Monsters to the black magic spells "Sleep," "Gravity," and "Bind" have been adjusted:
Behemoth / King Behemoth / Fafnir / Nidhogg / Capricious Cassie

This was in last June update, but... what they really change?

[amentis]

AA Rotation, loool...
I remember doing that shit. Only would let drk/sams and sam/thfs into the ally, KASHA > SS GO! Then 15 thunder IV.

Best Fafnir moment: After an update, he was bugged and didn't melee, only did tp moves.
Tank: "Oh wow I thought you guys were just really awesome with the AA rotation today"

[Thorgridson]

This was in last June update, but... what they really change?

seemed to me like they would resist faster then before.

[Rilu]

Yes, AA rotation used to be the norm, and you could substitute a SMN for WHM in the tank pty no problem.

as far as Fafnir resisting sleeps, yes, any mob begins to resist sleeps after a while.

[Raineer]

as far as Fafnir resisting sleeps, yes, any mob begins to resist sleeps after a while.

NM's maybe, you can sleep (most) non-NM's endlessly.

[Okan]

Double PLD, double WHM/SMN, RDM, BRD was a pretty normal tank party.
The two WHM in this party never did anything except Aerial Armor and some buffs really. Sure, they did some spot healing, but they were not the primary healers. Paladins used Earth Staff. A thief, army of BLMs and RNGs, maybe a MNK Chi-Blasting, some healers, and SMNs. Never, ever were straight melee allowed because of TP-feeding. Fafnir used to be about a 30-45 minute fight.

Tiamat was easily upwards to about 2-3 hours on good days. The good days...

[Antec]

Don't forget barfire and fire carol for dragon breath or your tanks are toast!

Or was that just our LS w/ that misconception?

[Zigma]

BG used to do AA rotations, the whms needed smn sub for it. Its sleep resistance just makes the duration shorter, but it is still hard to sleep as a blm. I remember holding Faf for about 50-60 minutes alternating E.Seal for it a because that was the only way to guarentee it.

the good days

[fishstix]

An ls once asked for smn sj be leveled for bards when I applied

[_chuchu]

que

[Unstable]

two days ago we got fafnir, but was first window only 4 BLMS there we ES sleep2 it, after 5-6mins sleeping it might of slept for 1-2secs max.

[Tomiko]

but even a shitty-mediocre ls can kill fafnir without building resist

Nowadays though sleeping Fafnid should be nonexistent since it should die in 10-20 minutes top.

You obviously haven't seen the shitty LSes on Unicorn.

[Thorgridson]

or the new shitty jp LS on Odin, claim-> spike flail -> Chainspell sleep.

[Raineer]

An ls once asked for smn sj be leveled for bards when I applied

Yes, even my old once-great linkshell had a BRD/SMN sighting from time to time.

Not knowing BRD/SMN is like...enjoying your Slim Jim without knowing how the sausage is made. Don't forget SMN main for AoE SS (couldn't DD of course, only 1 BP per min!)

Appreciate your roots, we have all come so far...

[Raineer]

two days ago we got fafnir, but was first window only 4 BLMS there we ES sleep2 it, after 5-6mins sleeping it might of slept for 1-2secs max.

Yeah, this is exactly what we saw. There is something about straight sleeping time that pisses Faf right off.