Pahluwhan Body critical increase

[Fridell]

Wow, retarded, why not just fucking keep that Osode and sell it to fund Ingots AFTER you got the Usu drop?
"I play how I want fuck off"-style lol, what is this? 13 year old boys on the internet again wryyyyy.

[S N K]

If you think you wanna test your critical hite rate with that shitty Pbody which is a WASTE of Assault Points which could be better spent on getting tags for Salvage, then do a low-man Hydra for fun and see if your One-Inch Punch can keep those heads down.

[Vedder]

Did we all not learn to ignore Neosutra's proclamations as a result of the delicious quotes thread?

[Chen]

impressive amount of handbag swinging in a standard thread

[GeneJackit]

I think the fact that to get accurate results on the crit+ you need to do like a billion tests in a vacuum accounting for every last variable just goes to show that the "increase critical hits" or however its worded makes this body piece severely lacking for MNK or any other job...but im not gonna criticize someone for using it...heck it at least has good acc...

It isn't like once you can equip shura body you're given a shura togi, or usu body...those obviously take time...and i dont think anyone is stating that Pbody is the end all be all of body pieces...so who really cares if someone uses it in between getting what they really want...it isnt like meleeing in a Carapace Harness or anything...

[Meian]

Wow...

Wasn't this thread to discuss about the data and how to find a closer approximation for the crit % on P. Body? If I remember correctly, neosutra, that you didn't like it when people didn't speak about debating religion and science in your other thread such as attacking the thread or you in general but here you are attacking someone else's thread over some irrelevant issues that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

As for P. Body, I used this until Togi and kept the body anyway for PUP for Stringing Pummel since lacking in the Enkidu/Usukane department and crit % for a crit ws seemed logical to me. I've always wanted to know what the exact % or close approximation was, if it really is 1% meh but it is better than anything else I have for PUP.

[Neosutra]

Wow...

Wasn't this thread to discuss about the data and how to find a closer approximation for the crit % on P. Body? If I remember correctly, neosutra, that you didn't like it when people didn't speak about debating religion and science in your other thread such as attacking the thread or you in general but here you are attacking someone else's thread over some irrelevant issues that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

As for P. Body, I used this until Togi and kept the body anyway for PUP for Stringing Pummel since lacking in the Enkidu/Usukane department and crit % for a crit ws seemed logical to me. I've always wanted to know what the exact % or close approximation was, if it really is 1% meh but it is better than anything else I have for PUP.

Dont bring religion thread into a gear discussion thread. Kaylia annoys the shit out of me in religion threads, but I respect his opinion in any other topic.

And the relevant issue was me stating that anyone that doesnt ALREADY have P.body should not waste the points. NQ SH will parse the same, and any other alternative will outparse it. To go further, a decent mnk should work their ass off to get Togi, and not idle in waiting for their usu body.

And to Vedder: I admitted I was wrong in the quotes thread. I honestly didnt give SE enough credit to assume they would waste that significant amount of time to go through -every- salvage log from every group thats every gone, just to see who they could stick it too. That combined with the fact that the logical answer would have been to strip their gear away, blew alot of people away. Im still shocked at what they did, and dont agree with either their waste of resources, or their treatment of their playerbase, but I at least admitted I was wrong afterwards. But Im sure youve never been wrong in your life, and thus we can trust anything you have to say.

[Lahina]

Dear Neosutra:

I am wasting a fairly significant amount of time testing something that has already proven that, in terms of raw damage output, Pahlu outparses an NQ SH. Now I'm seeing by how much, and whether it's worth it (for me and other DDs) ditching my SH +1 to save cash towards a (gasp) better body piece.

You are wanking in gleeful ignorance about your gear choices in SD. You are, approximately, whacking off in a room full of lesbians; it may feel good, but you're contributing nothing; and ultimately, you're just in the way.

You aren't even ON fucking Monk 99% of the time; shut the fuck up, and let the little kids play.

[Phraust]

To me when I see so many differing results on some of this stuff (P.body, H.Corraza, etc...) I think the nomenclature "Enhances X Effect" might be more along the lines of: adds an x% bonus to existing abilities.

For instance, I did some minor testing (Never got around to finishing the full set of tests) and it seemed liek the H.Corraza had a 25% increase to existing triple attack, with a 1% floor. So on drk/drg I was getting just under a 1% TA, but on thf/drg I was getting roughly ~2% more TA's using the H.Corraza.

Same might be the case for P.body, maybe the base crit rate is extended, and that's the reason there's so much variance in the results. For argument's sake lets say the increase was a 25% increase in critical hits, someone with say, 20% base crit rate might see and increase to 25% (25% increase) where someone with only 12% crit would be bumped to 15%. The argument looks like it's between 3-5% increase in Crit, but in reality its a 25% increase in crits either way.

[Neosutra]

Dear Neosutra:

I am wasting a fairly significant amount of time testing something that has already proven that, in terms of raw damage output, Pahlu outparses an NQ SH. Now I'm seeing by how much, and whether it's worth it (for me and other DDs) ditching my SH +1 to save cash towards a (gasp) better body piece.

You are wanking in gleeful ignorance about your gear choices in SD. You are, approximately, whacking off in a room full of lesbians; it may feel good, but you're contributing nothing; and ultimately, you're just in the way.

You aren't even ON fucking Monk 99% of the time; shut the fuck up, and let the little kids play.

Im not on mnk alot? I play mnk more than I play my relic pld, so shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about. And no, P.body hasnt been proven to even outparse NQ SH, so stop deluding yourself. If you want to blow 20k AP for a shitty body piece, so you dont have to fork out a bit of gil for much better pieces, by all means, go ahead. But dont post here suggesting anyone else should follow your path of stupidity.

[miokomioko]

shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

You should probably go ahead and take your own advice.

[Neosutra]

You should probably go ahead and take your own advice.

Keep wearing your P.body while you postpone getting a Togi for your Usu body thats "going to drop any day now".

[Phraust]

Wow... Serioiusly, this is supposedly the flame proof forum?

You guys are getting worked up over how much of a difference in "bottom line" damage output?
Relax lol...

[Neosutra]

Wow... Serioiusly, this is supposedly the flame proof forum?

You guys are getting worked up over how much of a difference in "bottom line" damage output?
Relax lol...

True enough. Im sorry Mioko/Lahina, wear what you want. My suggestions were meant to get people to work towards body pieces I believed would better benefit them for the effort spent. Good luck with whatever you go with, as this is just a game.

[Hanyoko]

See I took what Neo said their to mean: if you already have a P.Body and NOT any of the listed things that are better, then use it if you want. But if you have any of these item (see list) they are better and would be a waste to purchase one.

Shura body abjuration is junk for many LS that do sky. I think its safe to say that over 50% of those groups doing kirin are doing it for red legs. I think our last kirin we let the shell we teamed up with take our shura body abj (social linkshell doing sky OMG!)

[miokomioko]

Keep wearing your P.body while you postpone getting a Togi for your Usu body thats "going to drop any day now".

A perfect example of what I mean. I don't recall postponing anything. Of course you'll try to apply one's lack of better rare/ex gear to them being simply lazy/cheap or whatever bullshit you pull out of your ass but you should probably just "shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about."

Here, I'll make your next response for you so you don't have to post anymore.

Enjoy your shitty P.body instead of getting Shura like any real mnk, and you don't deserve Usukane blah blah blah... I completely ignored any point you made and I'll just keep repeating irrelevant insults and completely misconstrued conclusions based entirely on wild assumptions of your skill/intellegence/luck/effort as a player

[Neosutra]

You fail reading comprehension, give it up. I already said for you to do whatever makes you feel tingly inside.

[isladar]

If you need help reading the rules of this forum please let me know.

[Tagus]

You probably dont deserve an usukane body if you are wearing P.body anyways Q.Q.

I love that this was said. It's just so fantastic. But really what I wanted to ask was.... you guys talk about religion on BG?

Hahahahaha

Searching now.

[Shinryuu]

Which one of you fucks decided it's a good idea to own an osode on MNK when it's still sellable for much more than it's worth? Spoilers: it's not. Pahluwan's a fine alternative for SH until shura togi; if you want to mathcrunch it, I deem it very likely SH+1 comes out on top, however for someone who might just have dinged 75 (or doesn't play a lot, and or etc.) there are a few better alternatives you can spend the 600k on, since the marginal increase from pahluwan to SH+1 is so small.