Guiness Book of World Records 2009 Gamers Edition

[Mayareira]

No Sensible World of Soccer? Seriously?

[Lbelle]

FF12 had a huge impact on me not wanting to play FF13 and that's about it.

[Kiarax]

Like the game or not, it's insane that it's even in the top 50 let alone the top 10. Not sure what the hell the team that made this list were high on but it must have been some pretty potent stuff. I can't think of anything the game does well other than the turn based but not quite so obviously so battle system and the amount of rare monster/hunts you can do. The license board is an absolutely awful idea, Quickenings were cheap as hell (yeah yeah, you don't have to use them but it would have been nice if they weren't quite so strong so that you didn't one shot half the bosses in the game with it if you did) and it suffers from painfully annoying characters (Vaan and Penelo) like 95% of every other RPG. The few things it does right haven't effected the industry or the genre at all, really makes no sense for it to be on the list even if it did sell well (which is purely because it has Final Fantasy in the title). If some no name developer released the game it would just be considered another meh RPG and have mediocre sales.

[Charismatic]

Bigger fanbase, more well known.

hahahahahahahahaah ahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's what I thought you meant but lolno.

[Komm Suesser Tod]

As my brother always said, regarding his decision to guard a tank convoy in Iraq, it could not have been as bad as a decision as his decision to go back to Iraq voluntarily. What comes before will always be more influential than the things that come after the initial decision.

[Correction]

So Halo's great big contribution to FPS games was...regenerating health!

PUT THAT SHIT AT #1 FOLKS IT'S NO CONTEST.

[Okan]

I liked FF12, but I agree that is was FAR from influential. And SWOS should be on the list as it was the soccer's version of Tecmo Bowl (Which should ALSO be on the list) as great influential sports games. Even the first version of Madden too.

[Charismatic]

Heh, I wish the early versions of madden were influential... I loved them.
I hate the shitpile madden games that come out now though.

[Kiarax]

hahahahahahahahaah ahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that's what I thought you meant but lolno.

Laugh all you want, you are dead wrong here. Everyone knows what Halo is nowadays, even people who aren't gamers. You could pretend more people know what Goldeneye is thanks to the movie but even then I'm pretty sure Halo would still outnumber them by a shitload.

[Charismatic]

10/10
I raged

[Mayareira]

If some no name developer released the game it would just be considered another meh RPG and have mediocre sales.

It'd do just as good especially with the support of popular haters.
Its ok to dislike a very successful game, but empty assumptions like this are annoying.

[Kiarax]

It'd do just as good especially with the support of popular haters.
Its ok to dislike a very successful game, but empty assumptions like this are annoying.

How can you honestly believe that? The Final Fantasy name alone almost guarantees a 40/40 from Famitsu regardless of how good or bad the game is. And it'll sell atleast 1 million in Japan because of the name and the Square Enix logo being on the box. And it's not that I dislike the game, I understand you have a raging hardon for the game but just because someone else doesn't think it's the hottest shit ever doesn't mean they dislike it.

[Charismatic]

And it's not that I dislike the game

Stop trolling.

[Kiarax]

Stop trolling.

I'm not fond of it, but I don't dislike it. The fact that I've gone back to it multiple times to try and finish it should show that. If I didn't like the game I would never have put so many hours into it. One day I'll finish it without being sidetracked by other games, you'll see!

[Okan]

But you can't alone say the game would have failed if it didn't have the Final Fantasy title. Sure, it might not have sold as much. Realistically, it probably wouldn't have, but it's also a possibility it might sold more. Some people are just anti-success and they live in the indie scene. The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery are descent examples. Sure, not 40/40, but also mild successes in the books.

[Kiarax]

Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery barely broke 1m sales put together. Last I checked FFXII had sold between 5-6m.

[Merovingian]

Uh, there was FPS's on consoles before Goldeneye and even if Goldeneye didn't come out we would still be flooded with FPS's like we are today. It was the first real successful and well designed console one, but they just happened to be the the first to do so, would have only been a matter of time til another FPS came out that'd have a huge impact like it did. Doesn't mean I don't agree with the fact it should be higher than Halo, but Halo really is a "bigger" game,

Could you please name a few? I'm trying to remember console FPS from that era but i was young and don't remember to much of game names. What i think Goldeneye revolutionize(sp?) at that time was the multiplayer, something that only you could get in PC.

[Charismatic]

Fuck yeah, Goldeneye is the first FPS I can remember that had so many multiplayer options.
And I remember the controls feeling a lot less stiff than previous console FPS games, but I was never big on shooters.

My friends and I loved license-to-kill + slappers only in the factory stage

[Kiarax]

Oh it's definitely the first good multiplayer one. Random other FPS's I can remember playing on consoles; Zero Tolerance (Mega Drive/Genesis), Doom (SNES), Wolfenstein (SNES), some Star Wars game on the PS1 (name escapes me at the moment), Disruptor (PS1), Exhumed (PS1) and hell, I think even Duke Nukem 3d came out before or around the same time as GoldenEye. I'm not even gonna pretend that any of them are even close to as good as GoldenEye is, but they were still there and the genre would have continued to evolve on consoles without GoldenEye, albeit at a much slower pace.

Also fuck yeah slappers + one shot kill mode. Only thing more fun than remote mine only games.

[Charismatic]

Sped up the evolution of console shooters 'vs.' added health regeneration