Player Warning: Tensai of Ramuh

[Ameow]

Tensai hacked a good friend of mine 3 weeks ago - he used a mule named Virtuso to sell all his gear with.

Tensai - Ramuh - FFXIAH.com

Virtuso - Ramuh - FFXIAH.com

[Tankjr]

Any relation?

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...nkshell-4.html

[Reed]

Nope sorry

[Zumin]

That's very interesting.
Do you have any legitimate proof?
Like previous name, LS, server etc.
Because I know he wasn't on this server before.

[Deader2818]

Id like to see some proof of those 2 accounts being linked because Tensai is in my linkshell and a good guy so I can't really see him doing this.

[Ameow]

Id like to see some proof of those 2 accounts being linked because Tensai is in my linkshell and a good guy so I can't really see him doing this.

With the information you're asking for, doesn't concern you - sending me /tells trying to start drama doesn't help this situation. i'm sure he is a nice guy - along with all the other people who do this sort of thing. he was called in once we found out who was behind the hacking (Virtuso), if you would like to take this discussion any higher feel free to call POL - other wise, this post is simply a player warning like i told you.

Feel free to read over at ffxiah.com if you feel the need to troll my posts. a minor mistake was taken into discussion when i was informed on the situation concerning a sack holder to the LS Empire being involved. like i stated in my post - it was a mistake due to lack of ffxi communication. that discussion somehow was brought into context that wasn't needed at the time of this - therefor causing much confusion.

Player Warning: Virtuse - Forum - FFXIAH.com

I would like to apologize to Empire LS once again for this mistake.

[Deader2818]

With the information you're asking for, doesn't concern you - sending me /tells trying to start drama doesn't help this situation. i'm sure he is a nice guy - along with all the other people who do this sort of thing. he was called in once we found out who was behind the hacking (Virtuso), if you would like to take this discussion any higher feel free to call POL - other wise, this post is simply a player warning like i told you.

Feel free to read over at ffxiah.com if you feel the need to troll my posts. a minor mistake was taken into discussion when i was informed on the situation concerning a sack holder to the LS Empire being involved. like i stated in my post - it was a mistake due to lack of ffxi communication. that discussion somehow was brought into context that wasn't needed at the time of this - therefor causing much confusion.

Player Warning: Virtuse - Forum - FFXIAH.com

I would like to apologize to Empire LS once again for this mistake.

All im saying is, without any actual proof that they are the same person, there really is no warning since you cant prove any information.

When you make a post like this, and then refuse to share your "proof" it makes me believe that there really is no proof.

I fail to see how asking for proof of the accusation is "starting drama".

Further more, I would think this does concern me, I am in the same shell as him. Right now, it's just slander and nothing more than that.

[Ameow]

His account was called in - POL provided us with information on who was behind Virtuso, that would be Tensai. i'm not sure i can be anymore clear with this statement if you're incapable in understanding that POL had provided us with the information.

I am not accusing anyone - i'm stating a fact. feel free to continue to take offense to my facts, but please don't infer my words. you got so defensive with me, then tried to bring up in game drama - i can understand if he's your friend, but keep uncalled drama out of the situation. if you cant deal with the fact your buddy has something to hide - then that is on you.

Do you not understand the meaning of a cross server warning still? if you cant comprehend it - there is a thread that informs you all about it.

[Kiali]

Ameow, I was pointed in the direction of your post on FFXIAH. I read over that as well as any links that were mentioned. This thread was mentioned :http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...st-server.html

Now, the first post in that thread says Tensai is a black haired Elvaan. The Tensai on Ramuh does not have black hair. He is an Elvaan, but face 6 with white hair. I am also a little concerned with what you mentioned about the information that you were provided with, by POL. I have a couple of friends that have been hacked in the past and POL provided them with no information such as what you are mentioning. That is on the verge of giving out personal information, if not blatently doing so. I'm fairly sure they are not allowed to do that since that is a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I'm not going to worry too much about this until there is some actual proof that he is behind this. So far, I have read that the person behind this is an Elvaan with black hair and an Aegis. The Tensai on Ramuh, has neither.

Edit: I would also like to know why POL allows him to continue to play if they know that he in fact, hacked another character. If this were true, I think they would have banned the account he plays. This is what you are claiming they know and have provided you information regarding. I'm calling BS on this. Proof or gtfo.

With the information you're asking for, doesn't concern you - sending me /tells trying to start drama doesn't help this situation. i'm sure he is a nice guy - along with all the other people who do this sort of thing. he was called in once we found out who was behind the hacking (Virtuso), if you would like to take this discussion any higher feel free to call POL - other wise, this post is simply a player warning like i told you.

Feel free to read over at ffxiah.com if you feel the need to troll my posts. a minor mistake was taken into discussion when i was informed on the situation concerning a sack holder to the LS Empire being involved. like i stated in my post - it was a mistake due to lack of ffxi communication. that discussion somehow was brought into context that wasn't needed at the time of this - therefor causing much confusion.

Player Warning: Virtuse - Forum - FFXIAH.com

I would like to apologize to Empire LS once again for this mistake.

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His account was called in - POL provided us with information on who was behind Virtuso, that would be Tensai. i'm not sure i can be anymore clear with this statement if you're incapable in understanding that POL had provided us with the information.

I am not accusing anyone - i'm stating a fact. feel free to continue to take offense to my facts, but please don't infer my words. you got so defensive with me, then tried to bring up in game drama - i can understand if he's your friend, but keep uncalled drama out of the situation. if you cant deal with the fact your buddy has something to hide - then that is on you.

Do you not understand the meaning of a cross server warning still? if you cant comprehend it - there is a thread that informs you all about it.

You at first say that: "he was called in once we found out who was behind the hacking (Virtuso)". Then in your next post you say: "His account was called in - POL provided us with information on who was behind Virtuso, that would be Tensai."

So are you saying that you called POL when you found out who did it or you called POL and they told you who did it? Everyone knows that POL would not give out someone's personal information like that, so that cannot be what you meant. I'm really calling BS now.... If you can't keep your story straight in the same forum, that's pretty bad.

[Tekki]

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[Annabelle]

Hello.

Wanted to respond so that Ameow is not hung out to dry here.

Tensai and Virtuso on Ramuh are the same person. I confirmed this through private conversation with the person behind both characters.

There is strong evidence in the ffxiah.com history that Virtuso sold an extensive amount of gear matching Dorren's inventory. These sales occurred soon after Dorren's account was compromised. Put two and two together and you get four.

Either Tensai/Virtuso is the person who hacked/stole Dorren's account, or Tensai/Virtuso purchased Dorren's account via RMT very shortly after it was hacked/stolen by someone else. Either way, Tensai/Virtuso is a thief and a scoundrel, and his presence in the Empire LS makes Empire look shady, in my opinion.

You can flame me or disbelieve me all you want. This post is truthful, and if you don't believe me, then you're deluding yourself based on Tensai's personality in-game. No matter if you like it or not, he is an account thief behind-the-scenes.

[Maxim]

Hello.

Wanted to respond so that Ameow is not hung out to dry here.

Tensai and Virtuso on Ramuh are the same person. I confirmed this through private conversation with the person behind both characters.

There is strong evidence in the ffxiah.com history that Virtuso sold an extensive amount of gear matching Dorren's inventory. These sales occurred soon after Dorren's account was compromised. Put two and two together and you get four.

Either Tensai/Virtuso is the person who hacked/stole Dorren's account, or Tensai/Virtuso purchased Dorren's account via RMT very shortly after it was hacked/stolen by someone else. Either way, Tensai/Virtuso is a thief and a scoundrel, and his presence in the Empire LS makes Empire look shady, in my opinion.

You can flame me or disbelieve me all you want. This post is truthful, and if you don't believe me, then you're deluding yourself based on Tensai's personality in-game. No matter if you like it or not, he is an account thief behind-the-scenes.

This is Tensai BTW. I have to speak up after seeing Annabelle's post. I did have a private conversation with Annabelle ingame but he just tried to cyber with me, nothing else was talked about regardring this matter. He showed up one day in Kuffta Tunnel on his character named Annabelle (Hume F). where I usually fish mantas and asked me if I were "The mysterious Elvaan" lmao! I asked LS if Annabelle were a guy or girl and Mrdeeds(my ls mate) said it was a guy who leads KittyCommander LS. And with my flirteous nature I said I was the mysterious elvaan just to see what his reply would be. and then he started asking me questions like which server I came from, what jobs I have and what events I do with Empire. I thought it was weird someone just randomly showed up and asked all that but wtf, I dont have friend on Ramuh so whoever wanted to be my friend is fine with me. That's what I thought and Annabelle left shortly after. I don't know how he linked me with the hacker by just saying what server I came from, what jobs I have and what events I do with Empire.

Annabelle, if you could confirm what I said to you that day was a valid proof of me being linked to the hacker. Please enlight everyone. Because our conversation didn't have anything to do with Virtusu or me hacking anyone. Don't start pointing your dirty finger at me the same way you sticked it in other dude's ass because I aren't your ingame manwhore. Empire's manwhores are of high-class, find your boytoys else where dude.

[Annabelle]

I'll happily describe the events in question.

Ever since I discovered Virtuso selling Dorren's gear on ffxiah.com, I randomly did "/sea all Virtuso" until one day I finally was able to find him and get him to reply.
I admit to starting up conversation with Virtuso for the purpose of finding out who his/her main character is. Virtuso told me that his/her main character is an Elvaan and that he/she was logged off in Kuftal Tunnel. Virtuso told me he/she spends the majority of his/her time fishing for Devil Manta in Kuftal Tunnel. Virtuso then told me he/she was going to logoff and switch to his/her main character, and invited me to come fish with him/her in Kuftal Tunnel.

At that point, I did a search in Kuftal and wrote down everyone's name that was in the zone. I waited a couple minutes, then searched Kuftal Tunnel again. The only new name on the search list was Tensai, who was Elvaan. I went down to Kuftal myself to confirm, and discovered Tensai fishing for Devil Manta. Furthermore, the nature of the conversation I had with Virtuso then Tensai was consistent. I have no doubt that the two characters are the same person.

I highly doubt that this is all coincidence. There is a much greater chance that Virtuso and Tensai are linked. I was careful and meticulous about my investigation. I was really upset that someone would steal Dorren's account and then so blatantly sell his equipment on the same server using a mule.

Tensai, I'm sorry that I was covert in my means to discover you. Dorren is a good friend and a great person. I was determined to find out who was selling his entire inventory. I found you out. You can deny it all you want.

[Maxim]

Dude, i'm Tensai. I never started any conversation with you. You were the one sending me randome /t while i was fishing. The first thing I ever gotten from you were "Are you the mysterious Elvaan?" right after I saw that /t and seeing you as a Hume F which has always been my favorite Race. I then immediately asked LS if they know Annabelle is a man/woman. I thought you were hitting on me but when I found out you were a Man I just chatted normally, not in perverted way like I would with a Woman. The only time I would take /anon off is when I do events with LS.

[Kiali]

All I am asking for is proof. You have basically just said that a character has sold some of the same items that your friend had. I can see why you would want to link the two. Now by looking at FFXIAH and the past sales history of Virtuso, I see what they have sold. The items all look pretty common to me. Are you pointing fingers at Tensai because this AH history has a few similar items to what Dorren had? I mean, that's unheard of! People having similar gear that you can buy off the AH? Nowai!!

Sometimes people will link things based on some rare piece of gear that was sold or something of the like. I see some pretty normal items. Is there any particular reason that you linked the two, other than seeing a few of the same items being sold off this toon? I'm not being a smartass here, I'm just asking what reasoning you have to think Tensai did this and if it is just because there's a few items of similarity sold.

I have just simply asked for some sort of proof. Ameow's post was crap and I will not buy it. If you guys have some type of proof then post it. You would think that if you were going to start a post of this magnitude, that you would start off with proof. If you have no proof, then then thread should be locked. I'm still calling BS, until some type of proof has surfaced. Ameow said that there was "extensive detective work" in the thread she made on FFXIAH. If that is the case, then bring it out. I don't see the problem.

[pugnax179]

think the "smoking gun" persay here was the roundel earring

not at all common on ramuh

[Kiali]

Agreed, Roundel Earring is not common on Ramuh. That being said, there is nothing here that shows Tensai and Virtuso are the same person other than the BS Ameow came out with and what Annabelle said. However, it is still no more than accusations. I might have been less skeptical in this whole thing if the thread had not started out with a lie from Ameow. If you are going to lie about the basis on which you "based" your damning evidence then why would I believe the context?

[Ameow]

think the "smoking gun" persay here was the roundel earring

not at all common on ramuh

That is correct, i believe it was brought over from another server - leaving Dorren the only one on Ramuh with it.

Tensai, do you mind showing us some of your player status/sale history on ffxiah.com?

You need to slow down and not get so defensive, Kiali. i'm simply stating what i was told - along with the information i was given, if you don't like it - then keep your trap shut. i'm no liar, so stop calling me one. your friend was caught with his hand down the cookie jar, either man-up to it, or shut up. if you feel the need to question me, simply send me a PM at KK.com - keep this uncalled drama off the thread, understand?

[Maxim]

I'd love to show you anything Ameow. But didn't you SS all the transactions I've made so far already? unless you meant something else. Let me know though

[Kiali]

That is correct, i believe it was brought over from another server - leaving Dorren the only one on Ramuh with it.

Tensai, do you mind showing us some of your player status/sale history on ffxiah.com?

You need to slow down and not get so defensive, Kiali. i'm simply stating what i was told - along with the information i was given, if you don't like it - then keep your trap shut. i'm no liar, so stop calling me one. your friend was caught with his hand down the cookie jar, either man-up to it, or shut up. if you feel the need to question me, simply send me a PM at KK.com - keep this uncalled drama off the thread, understand?

I'm not getting defensive at all. I simply asked for proof that he did this. You have not given any. You lied on your post. If you say that you didn't, you have lied again. You say I have brought drama? I believe you are oblivious to your own doings. You brought this here with accusations of Tensai. In accusing him of this, you lied straight up about how you came across this proof. I mean seriously.... You called SE and they gave you that information? I mean really? You didn't think someone would call BS on that? C'mon now. With how you have implied how everyone that has questioned you here, is either stupid or trying to start drama, you should maybe take a look at yourself. I will question you however I feel like it. I'm sorry it is posted in a public forum where you got called out. Is your theory "I'm going to lie and start drama but don't question me."?

I do have a question, just for my own curiosity. How was he hacked?

Now, had this not started with a lie, I would be less skeptical. It did start with a lie and a pathetic one at that. At this point, it looks like a bunch of slander. I am all up for hearing out anyone that is not going to start out lying through their teeth about the situation.