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    Quote Originally Posted by EckoGecko View Post
    All this guy did was get his cat high.

    just sounds stupid to go to jail for five years for killing a cat. maybe i'm just not to passionate about animals.

    I would understand if he tortured it, and ment to kill it. fuck that.
    But from what I understand from this situation is he was just hot boxing his cat within his bong.
    It always amazes me when people say stuff like this. I can understand if you don't like cats and I can understand if you don't like animals in general, but most people who don't like animals still do not condone someone torturing them. If you stuff a kitten into a box it is scared and traumatized and freaked out that is torture.

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    At least the cat wasn't used as bai... Deja vu all over again

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    Look, this guy is a miscreant, but 5 years is really a LONG time for killing an animal...I know "its the law" but the law can be wrong...I just hope to God this isnt a mandatory minimum and the judge would have discretion for the sentence...14 days in prison, fine em, community service at an animal shelter...thats a fair punishment.

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    Folks love to react to the '5 years' thing. It's a maximum sentence, and this particular perp is unlikely to get it. Two weeks in jail and a fine is a fucking slap on the wrist though, particularly if the animal dies after what was essentially forced imprisonment and torture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    It always amazes me when people say stuff like this. I can understand if you don't like cats and I can understand if you don't like animals in general, but most people who don't like animals still do not condone someone torturing them. If you stuff a kitten into a box it is scared and traumatized and freaked out that is torture.

    Yes it is torture, but it is still an animal...and ruining a persons life b/c they killed an animal is really really really fucked up...animals deserve all sorts of protection, and animal cruelty is AWFUL, but this is way too much...

    we have too many people in prison as is, and making sure that this guy is "off the streets" is a waste of all of our money...

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    Yeah it's the judge's fault that kid's life is ruined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Yeah it's the judge's fault that kid's life is ruined

    If the Judge is handcuffed by mandatory minimums, then no, but if the judge is trying to make a point and trying to become famous and throws the book at the kid, then you're god damn right its his fault


    all this talk about false imprisonment, torture, traumatization is really out of bounds...its a FUCKING CAT...it'll be back to licking its balls and sleeping 20 hours per day in no time

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    My housemates dog ate a half ounce of my bud one time, I was pretty fucking pissed to say the least. Now that dog is lazy and stupid. Natural Selection.

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    You're really jumping on this fabricated 'mandatory minimum' fantasy of yours; stop smoking the cheap weed, the paranoia is getting to you. He hasn't been sentenced to anything yet, it seems, and five years is the maximum, and that's only in the case that the animal dies. If it does go back to its normal 20 hour nap/harbl licking cycle the kid gets off with a misdemeanor, tops.

    Turn your brain back on, please, it's tiring responding to you otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneJackit View Post
    Yes it is torture, but it is still an animal...and ruining a persons life b/c they killed an animal is really really really fucked up...animals deserve all sorts of protection, and animal cruelty is AWFUL, but this is way too much...

    we have too many people in prison as is, and making sure that this guy is "off the streets" is a waste of all of our money...
    Oh yeah its JUST an animal. Humans are JUST animals too. There have been many many links between violence against animals and the jump to much more violent acts later on in life. If someone has a complete disregard for small animals they usually have no regard for life in general.

    Yes I understand that he did not act violently against the cat and he probably was just stoned and thought it was funny, but I know personally my regard for other creatures does not go out the window just because I am stoned. The guy was retarded and if he doesn't want his life ruined and doesn't want to go to jail then he shouldn't have ruined the cats life. This is assuming it dies and he is sentenced to 5 years.

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    Deja Vu indeed.

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    All I could think about while reading this post:

    http://www.vaguespace.net/blog/image...oobabe_30b.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneJackit View Post
    If the Judge is handcuffed by mandatory minimums, then no, but if the judge is trying to make a point and trying to become famous and throws the book at the kid, then you're god damn right its his fault


    all this talk about false imprisonment, torture, traumatization is really out of bounds...its a FUCKING CAT...it'll be back to licking its balls and sleeping 20 hours per day in no time
    Even if he does get 5 years... so what? Nobody made him do it. He decided to act like a fool all on his own. Why do you care if he gets any amount of time in prison? He didn't know it was wrong/illegal? Please. I'm not saying that that specific amount of jail time is the correct time, but if you didn't want your ass in the hands of the courts, you should have rubbed two brain cells together and thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    If someone has a complete disregard for small animals they usually have no regard for life in general.
    Since when does letting your pet share in your stash equate to "complete disregard"? Looks like he was just making sure kitty got its turn in the rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Oh yeah its JUST an animal. Humans are JUST animals too.

    Really? You cant be serious right? This has to be a joke...right? What was the last time an animal created a work of art? When did an animal create a vaccine?


    look, the ONLY point I wanted to make was that 5 years is a long time for killing an animal...and i know this is all a big assumption...and that 5 years is probably a maximum, but the fact that 5 years is even on the table as a possibility is completely fucked up.

    And yes, i know if he didnt want to do the time then he shouldn't have done the crime....but why not extend that out? Prison sentences instead of speeding tickets...i mean, you are risking the lives of others on the road....so that seems fair right?



    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    You're really jumping on this fabricated 'mandatory minimum' fantasy of yours; stop smoking the cheap weed, the paranoia is getting to you. He hasn't been sentenced to anything yet, it seems, and five years is the maximum, and that's only in the case that the animal dies. If it does go back to its normal 20 hour nap/harbl licking cycle the kid gets off with a misdemeanor, tops.

    Turn your brain back on, please, it's tiring responding to you otherwise.

    mandatory miniums arent fabricated...they apply to a lot of drug users...which is completely messed up too, but a completely different topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzzofAsura View Post
    Couldn't harm it? Let me stick you in a box with mostly smoke, you can even choose the type seeing how smoke =/= oxygen and tell me whether or not I should go to jail.
    Shit... back in the day we would sit in a car with the windows up and just bake for hours. I would've paid you to do it to me. Listening to Pink Floyd and David Bowie, playing with lasers and feeling up my friends cousin... good fucking times.

    Nowadays if i did it, i'd probably just end up taking a nap though, I wouldn't pay you anything now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Since when does letting your pet share in your stash equate to "complete disregard"? Looks like he was just making sure kitty got its turn in the rotation.
    Stuffing it in a box does not equate to "sharing your stash". Cats are very reluctant to go anywhere when forced.

    Edit: GeneJackit so those are the criteria that you use to value life? Not all humans create art or vaccines. By your argument there are many "animals" out there that are much more productive in life than many humans, can we value their life more than degenerates that do not contribute anything to society? How do you value the life of a chimpanzee that makes tools? If you are going to value life based on its accomplishments then you should judge it on an individual basis.

    And still how does any of your retarded arguments excuse torturing animals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneJackit View Post
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    You appear to lack the necessary sense to distinguish between 'misdemeanor' and 'felony.' I suggest you look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    Stuffing it in a box does not equate to "sharing your stash". Cats are very reluctant to go anywhere when forced.

    Edit: GeneJackit so those are the criteria that you use to value life? Not all humans create art or vaccines. By your argument there are many "animals" out there that are much more productive in life than many humans, can we value their life more than degenerates that do not contribute anything to society? How do you value the life of a chimpanzee that makes tools? If you are going to value life based on its accomplishments then you should judge it on an individual basis.

    And still how does any of your retarded arguments excuse torturing animals?

    how does saying 5 years in prison is too long equate me to supporting animal torture?

    The point is, humans aren't JUST ANIMALS, and honestly if we can't agree on that simple fact then this is just a hopeless discussion

    The "creating arts and vaccines" is in the POTENTIAL of humans...humans CAN create, can think, and can post retarded things on Forums...animals can't...so we are all clearly not just animals.

    If i could cure cancer by hooking up a monkey to a car battery I would have one thing to say: Black is positive, red is negative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    You appear to lack the necessary sense to distinguish between 'misdemeanor' and 'felony.' I suggest you look it up.
    Ok, ill be clear:

    If he spends more than 2 weeks in jail (If the cat dies) then no matter if it is misdemeanor or felony the system is completely FUCKED UP

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneJackit View Post
    And yes, i know if he didnt want to do the time then he shouldn't have done the crime....but why not extend that out? Prison sentences instead of speeding tickets...i mean, you are risking the lives of others on the road....so that seems fair right?
    Actually, if you are going fast enough, you can go to prison, but that's besides the point. That moves into the territory of stopping people before they commit the most serious part of a crime, like causing an accident. In that case, you are potentially risking lives, not already harming them, not the same. If he stuck the kitten in the bong and didn't do anything after, then it would be more like what you are saying and would not hold the same, if any punishment.

    Regardless, it's defending idiocy. It had no purpose aside from his own personal entertainment which is probably the most disgusting part. At least if you speed, you might be going somewhere to do something worth a damn.

    Edit: Now you're arguing the potential of humans to do noteworthy things. Well, I guess you'd better do something that we all deem important, otherwise your life is pretty much void of value. Paint something or someone might stuff you in a box and suffocate you.

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