The Mentalist

**Kuishen** · 2011-11-08 08:24

Originally Posted by Laugana

I figured it was Panzer about 15 mins in but as there was so much time left I wasn't sure what the rest of the episode was going to be about. I thought it was genius the way Jane goaded Panzer into bragging about himself and dissing Red John. The way he was looking at the red light on the camera, it was subtle, but I like it when they don't shove the plot in your face, making you have to work out what's going on. He took care of two birds with one stone - having Panzer get his comeuppance and drawing out Red John (who of course will be labeled a copycat killer). I'm interested in how this is going to play out.

Pretty much my thoughts on the episode. It was the best episode since last season's finale by far. Want more like this. The way Panzer conducted himself at times I almost thought he was going to kill Jane and it was some nice suspense to see how exactly Jane was going to out him.

**Laugana** · 2011-11-08 08:34

Originally Posted by Kuishen

The way Panzer conducted himself at times I almost thought he was going to kill Jane and it was some nice suspense to see how exactly Jane was going to out him.

I thought that the water he gave Jane would be poisoned somehow, or that he'd attack Jane after he came out the bathroom. Sure kept things suspenseful.

***Blarg*** · 2011-11-08 18:16

Originally Posted by Laugana

I thought it was genius the way Jane goaded Panzer into bragging about himself and dissing Red John. The way he was looking at the red light on the camera, it was subtle, but I like it when they don't shove the plot in your face, making you have to work out what's going on. He took care of two birds with one stone - having Panzer get his comeuppance and drawing out Red John (who of course will be labeled a copycat killer). I'm interested in how this is going to play out.

I didn't see it this way. I thought what Jane was doing was simply to diss this killer in front of a huge audience to get Panzer to have to defend the killer/himself and end up accidentally confessing on tv. I don't know if Jane would essentially orchestrate his death by using Red John.

**Kuishen** · 2011-11-09 04:33

Originally Posted by Laugana

I thought that the water he gave Jane would be poisoned somehow, or that he'd attack Jane after he came out the bathroom. Sure kept things suspenseful.

Exactly my thoughts.

@Blarg Yeah I don't know if he did it on purpose either because I'm not sure this was advantageous to Jane atm. Now the media is going to name it a copycat or start grilling Jane about not killing the right person, plus his colleagues will doubt him more too.

**Laugana** · 2011-11-09 05:57

Originally Posted by Blarg

I didn't see it this way. I thought what Jane was doing was simply to diss this killer in front of a huge audience to get Panzer to have to defend the killer/himself and end up accidentally confessing on tv. I don't know if Jane would essentially orchestrate his death by using Red John.

Hmm, I thought that was exactly what he wanted to achieve. He'd tried to goad Panzer into tripping up and when that didn't succeed he thought of another way to get rid of Panzer, who was under no suspicion and likely not going to be caught until too many bodies had piled up. Red John didn't have to respond, he could have laid low, but obviously for the storyline he killed Panzer and now Jane has a goal again. When Jane was called to Panzer's crime scene at the end, in my eyes he had no remorse, didn't even look at the body, went straight for the smiley face. Shows how much he cares eh?

**Kuishen** · 2012-05-12 03:33

So next week is season finale...

I haven't watched most of this season, just catching episodes here and there... Honestly if what the preview for next week eluded to was a Series Finale type of thing, it would be one of the ballsiest moves in TV history, but right now it's just the season finale and so they are going to have to pull a 180 at the start of next season.

Spoiler: show

**BerenTebogo** · 2012-05-12 14:19

I'm pretty excited for next week, I didn't see the preview for the finale but yeah, this plot line has been pretty beast.

**Titanss** · 2012-05-13 13:18

I love this fking show and saw the preview for next week, they are trying to fuck with a nig. I only catch episodes here and there as well, same with fringe. Still pimp

**Kuishen** · 2012-05-18 05:34

I made the mistake of watching the season finale of this AFTER I watched the season finale of Person of Interest...

This was quite possibly the weakest season finale of any show I've ever seen. They had a chance to do something amazing and ballsy and they completely pussied out. Nothing has changed.

Spoiler: show

Cho and Rigsby are the most developed characters at this point because we've now seen Cho get through a bad accident, overcome a drug addiction and end a destructive relationship. Rigsby has developed from a goofy player into a caring dad. No other character has had a single iota of development.

The episode where Jane got amnesia and went back to being his materialistic con-man self until Lisbon showed him the house where his family was murdered was a better episode than the finale. Complete and utter cash-cow move. If I hadn't been watching this show since the beginning and was just curious to know who Red John actually is I would not be putting up with this garbage.

**Titanss** · 2012-05-18 15:38

It wasn't that bad of a finale, did you really think anything was really going to happen? Come on man.. at least it had that fine bitch from entourage in it. This show has a few more season before it concludes, it is one of the best out there right now

**Kuishen** · 2012-05-18 21:28

Originally Posted by Titanss

It wasn't that bad of a finale, did you really think anything was really going to happen? Come on man.. at least it had that fine bitch from entourage in it. This show has a few more season before it concludes, it is one of the best out there right now

It was that bad. Literally nothing has changed from the beginning of the season to the season finale regarding the main plotline. And no, the show will be dragged on for another few season to make a quick buck, unless they step it up it's all downhill from here.

**Titanss** · 2012-05-19 00:11

It only has 1 main plot line, when you find out who that guy is the show is probably over. They aren't going to reveal that for about 2 more seasons. You act like we are watching The Sopranos or some shit with heavy character arcs involved. nah man, it ain't that kind of party

**Laugana** · 2012-05-22 15:18

Was it the season finale though? The avi I watched had a voiceover at the end saying stay tuned for clips from our next episode. So maybe it's not over yet?

**Thunder** · 2012-05-22 20:53

Nah, it was the last episode for this season. Always 24 of them

Idk what to say about that episode. There has been a change from the beginning of the season up until now, though: he picked up that girl to interrogate about red john. Which, I guess is a big deal but I thought Jane would have had more tricks up his sleeve to be able to walk away with more. I mean, he HAD to have known red john wasn't going to be caught. Unless this is a play on, "oh, red john will be there because he wants it to much." and jane was fooled into thinking red john would be there because HE, jane, wanted it too much.

Getting just the girl and getting your boss killed is kind of weak. He could have had the girl from the beginning ezpz without the fake killing stunt, getting beat up by the driver, and almost losing his fingers.

**Laugana** · 2012-05-23 11:49

Ah bugger, well in that case it was a rather lack lustre finale. I mean, they didn't exactly keep you in suspense that Rigsby and Lisbon were dead - next scene they're alive and one's going for snacks! Although, I am a tad confused about who the FBI mole was - was it the boss or the FBI lady? Both seemed equally suspicious to me.

People on another forum reckon that Jane may have hypnotised the girl he supposedly slept with - he could have made her think that they did and that's how he's going make her tell them everything. But who knows, maybe she dies off screen between now and the season opener.

**Qalbert** · 2012-05-26 01:47

Originally Posted by Kuishen

It was that bad. Literally nothing has changed from the beginning of the season to the season finale regarding the main plotline. And no, the show will be dragged on for another few season to make a quick buck, unless they step it up it's all downhill from here.

It's like you've never seen a procedural crime show before.

**Kuishen** · 2012-05-26 02:25

Originally Posted by Qalbert

It's like you've never seen a procedural crime show before.

Most procedural crime shows don't emphasize one main plot like this one does. At least not to my knowledge, I haven't watched any of the CSIs in a while. Been going back and watching the first season of CSI and it makes no attempt to hide the procedural behind any plot, and it works because it's not trying to be something its not. Criminal Minds over the last few years has been putting in more mini-plots with the main characters but that's about it, or even a plotline that is touched on a few times over the season (The guy that killed Hotch's wife). I can't touch on NCIS or Law and Order because I haven't watched much of those.

The reason that works is because those shows are not reminding you of those underlying plots every other episode, so you're not expecting a resolution or you GET a resolution when it does bring up said plot.

The Mentalist constantly reminds you of the bigger plot behind everything and teases you with a resolution and then just doesn't put out. It's just bad form.

**Qalbert** · 2012-05-26 08:01

any procedural that has an ongoing plot arc does this. some do it worse. look at Castle, you get maybe two episodes a year dealing with 'the plot'. deal with it, it's how the genre works, lol.

**Kuishen** · 2012-05-26 15:43

Originally Posted by Qalbert

deal with it, it's how the genre works, lol.

I'm saying that is shitty and that's not how it should be.

**Qalbert** · 2012-05-26 15:47

tough shit? whining isn't going to change anything, lol.

Thread: The Mentalist

Thread Tools

Latest Threads

Up & Coming Threads

Hottest Threads