Chainspell Stun Ultima Zerg

[Thorshammer]

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YouTube - Proto-Ultima with 0 Deaths (Using Kraken Club Properly!)

wow nice!!

drops?

[Fridell]

It doesn't describe the important aspects of the zerg as well as I'd like to though. What you end up doing, more or less, is stunning the 19% Dissipation and then immediately applying Soul Voice songs. Nobody should be doing any damage to it at this point (Giving it any TP when it can weaponskill could result in a Physical Shield that will fuck you over.) After around 30 seconds, Ultima will start the Citadel Buster countdown. That's the mark for all of your melee to spam their shit. The video posted earlier is a perfect example of this.

Pretty much what I said in first reply to OP, worded differently.

Also Dissipation is easy to Stun imo, only things that can fuck you over is when someone suddenly decided to WS or nuke it as soon as it is at a 1% mark over a set Dissipation timer and force a Dissipation and get you caugth with your pants down Also if someone camps Stun button and in total fear happen to cast it a half second too early and prevent the other Stunner to actually Stun Dissipation and get "Blblabla Stun had no effect" while the previous Stunners Stun was active.

Either way, we stopped caring about zerging this the last phase, each time I hopped on DRK and get set, it just used Physical Shield anyways lol.

[Xanthe]

wow nice!!

drops?

Try watching the entire video... Turban x2 and Manteel.

[Ultimagi]

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, quit gloating. Lots of things can go wrong. If you wait to see it in the log, you're too late to stun it. The only way to react fast enough is to have it ready on manual, and hit it as soon as he has the emphasis lines at the right percentage. You must be the same people who get 40,000 experience points per hour and full clear all Notorious Monsters plus the boss in salvage every run. Am I right?

[Seraph]

why are people all discussing about stunning dissapashits?

no one here wants to know how to stun that shit because most people prolly know how already

im sure the OP wants to know if it can be zerged.

so funny to see people argue over "you should use tpparty" or "if u need tpparty you fail" shits

do what u like to stop that move thats all

to the OP: as long CS stuns are nice and dont get physical barrier out, i think its pretty ok to zerg but please standby a contingency if it does.

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It's more about discussing why zerging Ultima is such a bad idea, unless you do it in a very controlled way after 19%. Most people can't be bothered to wait for the stars to align, so they just get a few tanks that can survive CB, and do it the 'standard' way.

[Seraph]

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, quit gloating. Lots of things can go wrong. If you wait to see it in the log, you're too late to stun it. The only way to react fast enough is to have it ready on manual, and hit it as soon as he has the emphasis lines at the right percentage. You must be the same people who get 40,000 experience points per hour and full clear all Notorious Monsters plus the boss in salvage every run. Am I right?

I stun Dissipation by looking at the log. It is quite possible, but you have to be waiting for it. If you are doing anything else before Ultima starts the move, you are screwed.

[Fridell]

Same, I stun it easy aswell, unless someone else toss a Stun at a bad place before it uses Dissipation so the current Stun makes mine have no Effect and it is too late.

[Demosthenes11]

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, quit gloating. Lots of things can go wrong. If you wait to see it in the log, you're too late to stun it. The only way to react fast enough is to have it ready on manual, and hit it as soon as he has the emphasis lines at the right percentage. You must be the same people who get 40,000 experience points per hour and full clear all Notorious Monsters plus the boss in salvage every run. Am I right?

45k+ and yes, actually. Don't get mad at us because you can't hit a macro every 20%. Is your brain having latency issues?

[Ultimagi]

45k+

Thanks, now I know your full of shit. /thread

[Starr]

I do it easy but I have HP % on windower

[evilpaul]

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, although it can be done easily if you know what you're doing. If you're watching you're log for it, you'll fail. The easiest way is to watch Ultima's HP via TParty. The moment Ultima's HP hits 79%/59%/39%/19%, start casting Stun. It's easier to anticipate this since you can monitor its HP constantly, the reaction time it takes for you to process "Ultima readies Dissipation" will most often cause you to stun late.

This is Advanced, you're supposed to post condescending bullshit rather than "facts" based on how the game actually works.

Everyone knows Dissipation is on a 53 second countdown and it auto-stuns itself as long as the White Mages aren't meleeing with Staves (clubs work fine).

[Khalil]

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, quit gloating. Lots of things can go wrong. If you wait to see it in the log, you're too late to stun it. The only way to react fast enough is to have it ready on manual, and hit it as soon as he has the emphasis lines at the right percentage. You must be the same people who get 40,000 experience points per hour and full clear all Notorious Monsters plus the boss in salvage every run. Am I right?

He's right. Dissipation has a way shorter casting time then Gates of Hades and if not stunned within the first second, odds are it'll go off. So, Demo, it's not easy to stun.

[Araelus]

In my experience, once you learn to do something well, unless you have to teach it to others, there's a skewed perspective that it is "easy". This is just the way people view things. It might be clearly shown by how Mojo explained how to properly stun Dissipation, and his post was prefaced with:

Dissipation isn't easy to stun, although it can be done easily if you know what you're doing.

[Ultimagi]

Yes, it would be nice if people could post in here about how to do things without getting replies like, "OMG U CANT DO THAT U SUCK LOL ITS SO EAZE". But douche bags will be douche bags I guess. It's all worth it in the end to read posts by evilpaul though.

[Darkslitter]

you must be the same people who get 40,000 experience points per hour

Astral burns or a party with a few relics at mamools above bird camp

full clear all Notorious Monsters plus the boss in salvage every run. Am I right?

Seriously...? really? Zhay/Arrapago/SS it is not that hard to hit all the NMs and boss. I've never 100%-0% on the bhaf ramparts though.

The only way to react fast enough is to have it ready on manual, and hit it as soon as he has the emphasis lines at the right percentage.

If you're a good stunner who doesn't use a macro, you can read Proto-Ultima readies dissipation and stun it in time. It's not as easy as gates or fulm, but it is not THAT hard either.

[Dimmauk]

Protip: Use Chat filters

One Ultima run, I stunned every Dissipation with Shield Bash. I gave the mages a hard time after every stun too LOL.

Shield bash is on a Macro for me too.

[Tsuko_Asura]

or a party with a few relics at mamools above bird camp

No.

[Demosthenes11]

Thanks, now I know your full of shit. /thread

67 smn says im not!

[Khalil]

67 smn says im not!

POIDH!

[Starr]

I don't give a fuck what anyone says, it's not possible to do 40k an hour at that camp cus I have cleared mobs until you have to wait a second for repops and capped at 25k before Corsair's Roll.