Chainspell Stun Ultima Zerg

[Khalil]

I've done 31k/hr tops with both colibri camps open for 2hrs. You can't get 45k/hr, period.

[Marcicus]

A party with a few relics at mamools above bird camp

What Tsuko said, wut?

[Avarice]

I'm a bit late and basically repeating what others have said before, but if you can't stun Dissapation then something's seriously wrong with your stunners. Every Ultima run we have a BLM dedicated to the stun of Dissipation and guess what? None of them ever get through. Dissipation is not instant; it does have a small window of charging (roughly two seconds).

[Katoke]

Wont work etc

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edit: saw the video and reconsider that you'd have to get lucky with no mana or energy screen, etc.

[Araelus]

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edit: saw the video and reconsider that you'd have to get lucky with no mana or energy screen, etc.

Someone mentioned feeding it no TP between Dissipation and Citadel Buster countdown, doesn't that avoid a Screen?

[Diomer]

Someone mentioned feeding it no TP between Dissipation and Citadel Buster countdown, doesn't that avoid a Screen?

I made that video and basically what we did was time it so that the current screen it had up would wear off just before it started CB, Hold it @ 21 until it uses Physical Shield (Get BRDs to SV Troub Madrig + March x2), wait ~25s and take it to 19 or however it hits and stun Dissipation, then it should CB right as that shield wears if you time it right. I'm pretty sure that it put up magic shield though since listening was fail.

[Tulun]

I've done 31k/hr tops with both colibri camps open for 2hrs. You can't get 45k/hr, period.

Expwatch might tell you so with Emperor's or Anni band on, though.

If people are being 'truthful', this is probably the reason they are getting high numbers.

[Raineer]

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edit: saw the video and reconsider that you'd have to get lucky with no mana or energy screen, etc.

It would have to be done just like the video, start after the 30 second countdown. You'd have to watch for the screens prior.

[Khalil]

Expwatch might tell you so with Emperor's or Anni band on, though.

If people are being 'truthful', this is probably the reason they are getting high numbers.

Ohh yeah, lol.

[Tsuko_Asura]

No, they're trying to sound awesome with fabricated, 'unaltered' levels of productivity that anyone who's ever browsed Advanced before /knows/ to be fabricated.

[Jeryhn]

Dissipation is easy to stun in my experience. I used Windower and looked at HP percentage - when it hit 20%, the melees are supposed to throw out a weaponskill to push it to 19%, and I'll already be casting Stun. Works damn near every time.

In the event that it has Physical Screen up, we have 2 BLM casting a nuke.

Simple shit really.

[Raineer]

Expwatch might tell you so with Emperor's or Anni band on, though.

If people are being 'truthful', this is probably the reason they are getting high numbers.

By that reasoning, astralburns xp/hour could only be expressed with scientific notation.

(you are correct, though, that is exactly what happens)

[liquinas]

You know you don't have to rely on chatlog to stun Dissipation. When it does a JA you can see yellow lines around it. When it hits 79% 59% 39% 19% it will do the yellow lines thingy. That would be dissipation.

Illustration complete with comicsans font:
http://home.comcast.net/~liquinas/stunme.jpg
Note:2 seconds is more like 1.67 seconds, but you get the idea.

[Faithe]

Take a beastmaster and ultima will be cake. I only have pet jobs smn, bst, pup, and my group leader force me to go as bst/drk. Courier can tank 3 CB before it dies, 4 if you get resisted.

1) stay, soul eater, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

2) heel, reward, wait for next CB

3) stay, last resort, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

4) heel, reward, wait for next CB

5) stay, weapn bash, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

6) heel, call beast, wait for next CB

rinse and repeat and nobody dies. My beastmaster is fully reward and call beast merited though.

[Shassira]

Take a beastmaster and ultima will be cake. I only have pet jobs smn, bst, pup, and my group leader force me to go as bst/drk. Courier can tank 3 CB before it dies, 4 if you get resisted.

1) stay, soul eater, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

2) heel, reward, wait for next CB

3) stay, last resort, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

4) heel, reward, wait for next CB

5) stay, weapn bash, stun, bind, sleep, snar1, get the hell out.

6) heel, call beast, wait for next CB

rinse and repeat and nobody dies. My beastmaster is fully reward and call beast merited though.

<3

Back when i was in a limbus shell that did Ultima, i tried convincing the leader to let me do something like this. Ofcourse, lolbst

I enjoy reading what people do with bst in events that normaly bsts never get to go or do anything besides being second rate charity DDs. We use my bst for LAC and it's always a fun moment for me :D

About all that exp bragging i'm seeing, you may want to actualy check your exp counter instead of what expwatch is telling you. I've seen it tell me i'm getting 20k/h while soloing as /bst or duoing and in the end I actualy get more around 12k/h despite what the counter says. (Note: SMN burn can easily yield big numbers and if done correctly those numbers are not only possible but normal)

On a side note: Back in 2005, my Blade: Jins averaged 1k dmg.

[Evildemon]

No message board search has ever worked right, I swear... So if this has come up before, sorry, I searched and found nothing.

Anyway, you'd think this would be a common method, but I haven't been able to find anything on it.. So it's kinda worrying me, since Ultima's not exactly a good fight to experiment with. But we want to kill faster so we have more time for chest farming afterward. We have angon, feint, tomohawk, BRDs, about 4 DRKs (2 with m kris, 1 with k club), SAMs, etc. for zerging with. So basically, I'm wondering if this would work, and if not from 100%, when would be a good time for it? I'm thinking the last 25% if nothing else.

Thoughts?

Now if i remember right you are unable to touch other chests as they de-pop as soon as you engage ultima and if you read the op's topic he wants to farm chests afterwards.

[ringthree]

You know you don't have to rely on chatlog to stun Dissipation. When it does a JA you can see yellow lines around it. When it hits 79% 59% 39% 19% it will do the yellow lines thingy. That would be dissipation.

Illustration complete with comicsans font:
http://home.comcast.net/~liquinas/stunme.jpg
Note:2 seconds is more like 1.67 seconds, but you get the idea.

They are red lines and it is a function that can be delayed by other JA uses that over lap the time it goes to the HP.

It is pretty simple to stun, but it's not as simple as you might think.

Best indication to stun is HP%, not log or visual.