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    We don't have to agree.

    I have a gun, so he can't exactly come and take it. I win.

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    P. J. O'Rourke did kid about that, along the lines of "the nice thing about those who oppose gun control is that if you disagree with them, their rules mean you can shoot them" ...but of course we both know that isn't what supporting the right to keep and bear arms means. >_>; Those who possess lethal force (and we all do, even without firearms) should be more polite, not less, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araelus View Post
    P. J. O'Rourke did kid about that, along the lines of "the nice thing about those who oppose gun control is that if you disagree with them, their rules mean you can shoot them" ...but of course we both know that isn't what supporting the right to keep and bear arms means. >_>; Those who possess lethal force (and we all do, even without firearms) should be more polite, not less, right?

    PJ O'Rourke is the Republican I hate to love

    But what Devek says holds weight, I would rather be the monk that sets fire to himself in protest than the self-proclaimed lethal enforcer of justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eunhye View Post
    I think it's only on the national news to begin with because "random white person a" shoots "more than one random white person". How many more black people are shot by other black people in urban areas, every day? It's only important because a white person killed another white person. Fuck that shit.
    I'm bout it was 100% factual real events, and accurately portrayed everyday life in the ghetto to the smallest detail.

    Really.

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    Even if one considers, like i do, that guns aren't at the core of most issues the US has, it doesn't stop it from being part of the core issue in other countries.

    ABC News: U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?



    U.S. gun stores and gun shows are the source of more than 90 percent of the weapons being used by Mexico's ruthless drug cartels, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials.

    "It's a war going on in Mexico, and these types of firearms are the weapons of war for them," said Bill Newell, the special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division of the ATF, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has primary law enforcement jurisdiction for investigating gun trafficking to Mexico.

    "It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen, so this country is where they come," said Newell.

    But U.S. efforts to stop the smuggling of tens of thousands of guns to Mexico, including high-powered assault weapons, have been hampered by lenient American gun laws and the Bush administration's failure to give priority to anti-gun smuggling efforts, officials tell ABC News for a report Tuesday on ABC News' "World News With Charles Gibson."

    President Bush said today at a press conference that Mexican President Felipe Calderon again raised the issue of guns at their meeting in New Orleans.
    Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News. "The Second Amendment," said the attorney general, "is certainly not designed to arm and give fire power to organized crime abroad."
    Very interesting situation.

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