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  1. #21
    Ksandra's other pussy
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    Grats Arson, maybe time to change your bazaar comment?
    Is his gear any worse then half the relics you see in here.... no!
    Welcome to BG, go back to KI etc etc.

  2. #22
    Sassy Tyrant
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    Discuss here

  3. #23
    COPPER-SHELLED QUADAV
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    Now I can rant about economics! THANK YOU!

    So you see, the question isn't about which item in particular is the larger increase to damage output, but rather how much return to each gil spent, that is, the marginal benefit from...

  4. #24
    Bitchfist
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    Iota vs Sniper +1 vs monies
    Tiger ring

    Now shut the hell up

  5. #25
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
    All hail Lord Yamcha

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    Upload the damned pics already

  6. #26
    Bitchfist
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    /sigh, you're gonna force my hand on this arent you

  7. #27
    Ryko's Full of Lies and Johns
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugnax179 View Post
    i told uryuu that on vent im like all things aside from the the iota, smart grenade?
    Because a free 4 attack is obviously the worst thing you could get...?

  8. #28
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    /sigh, you're gonna force my hand on this arent you
    I didn't pay 6 bucks for bacon cheese fries for a epic pic of sam baconness not to be shown! DO IT

  9. #29
    Bitchfist
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    Fine, ill put it in spam, gimme a few

  10. #30
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
    All hail Lord Yamcha

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    kk

  11. #31
    Official THE Alpha and Omega
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    Now let's be honest: We all knew this would happen

  12. #32
    Ridill
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    Don't see how Iota is in any way better than Sniper +1 for any 1h job.

    That being said: for 2h I suppose the argument is debatable. Own both and cover all bases.

  13. #33
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Kill yourself.
    You stole my phrase.

  14. #34
    Relic Weapons
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    Iota ring is good only if all your job is 2-hander. I'd wear ulthalam over iota on any 1-hander. Also, my g.axe war/sam uses an ecphoria for 6-hit build.

  15. #35
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Shit's situational so own both and cover your basis. I cap out at ACC for bird camp, I've been told I overshoot my ACC too, so bottom line the extra +2 ACC wouldn't do shit for me either, where as something like Iota might have a chance to push my crit tier up.

  16. #36
    Old Merits
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    most of its been covered, its good for 2handers, but i'm a ridill war. tor ring X2 is my goal!

  17. #37
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
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    I have tor ring from my mnk, no reason not to use it on my drg and sam

  18. #38
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    yup, i'll use them on most all of my jobs that I'm not going for a storetp set up in.

  19. #39
    Banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Every time you post it just makes it clearer why people laugh at you for being retarded. Gimping yourself even for one event ([B]Who buys gear based on dynamis? Do you? I wouldn't doubt it.[B]) is still gimping yourself. Are you one of those melee's who don't eat food in dynamis or don't use food in salvage or at bird camps either?

    But then again, your uneven amount of dex using the ring makes it ok, right?

    Kill yourself.

    I guess that's the difference between good player and crap ones. The crap ones go for gear that's only good in ... merit party .. on bird camp. The good ones have their inventory filled with 70 items that they can use anywhere. I mean def -12 is so much better than agi+3 dex+3 vit+3 in dynamis and 75% of endgame event you'd do on SAM. The only exception would be Einherjar, lol-hnms, sea farming etc. But then, sniper+1 is probably the 3rd best option at best doh.

  20. #40
    Sandworm Swallows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araelus View Post
    Argh, this point always comes up... >_>

    The gear-criticizers are saying that a player who is acting in an economically rational manner will purchase items in order from most efficient to least efficient. The anti-gear-criticizers claim that making one large increase in strength (non relic → relic) is more important or useful than any number of small increases (NQ → HQ in other slots) since the relic guy can afford to do either, or both, so they might as well go for the large upgrade first.

    The gear-criticizers are correct. But congrats on the relic anyway.
    By that logic I should have gotten a Sniper's +1 for my MNK over Usukane body, just because the Sniper's +1 was cheaper.

    That logic fails on so many levels. Just because you scrimp and save for years to get a relic doesn't mean you have gil falling out of your ears.

    Amano is a clear and strong upgrade. Sniper's +1 over pretty much any other option is a marginal upgrade.

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