RadioHead Vs Miley + Kayne

[Beckwin]

melchiah needs to get the fuck out; I already said there's room to criticize radiohead musically and what I've been correcting, for the most part, is Plow's terrible commentary on radiohead's music and other ridiculous knee-jerk reactionaries that somehow have more respect for miley goddam cyrus's whiny bullshit compared to a quality band that has a history of not being conventionally press/media/fame-friendly.

the whole snubbing thing hardly requires a counter-argument; I mean ffs it's miley goddam cyrus, not a Make-a-Wish kid with 2 months left to live that actually might care about radiohead's music.

[Beckwin]

and btw, rhcp entered my little list just to illustrate mainstream/highly-accessible taste.

[Beckwin]

but omg look melchiah started sucking rhcp's collective cock

jesus melch you are fucking terrible at posting

[gandorf]

I remember hearing after kanye west's mom died he did a song he wrote for her on stage. He asked everyone to stand up out of respect and someone didn't listen and he threw a fit on stage. In some way he just wanted people to show respect to his mom but his reaction to the situation wasn't necessary. The same could be said for radiohead. They could have sat down for five more minutes and met with them and this whole incident wouldn't have happened.

Everyone involved in this little mess looks like douche bags. Kanye and miley shouldn't have taken it personally and radiohead shouldn't have been rude.

[Stumblingdrunk]

and radiohead shouldn't have been rude.

The point that you and several others are missing is that it was not rude of them, they politely declined an invitation. What makes this so rude?

[Melchiah]

but omg look melchiah started sucking rhcp's collective cock

jesus melch you are fucking terrible at posting

One post of mine questioning your implying that RHCP is mainstream garbage does not equate to YOUR multiple-post diatribe about Radiohead.

And sure, I can get the fuck out. So can you every time you take a shit on weight lifters, football fans, and anyone else who is into something you don't like, you counter-culture wannabe elitist asswipe.

[gandorf]

The point that you and several others are missing is that it was not rude of them, they politely declined an invitation. What makes this so rude?

I guess I missed the part where they politely declined I guess my point is invalid.

[Beckwin]

One post of mine questioning your implying that RHCP is mainstream garbage does not equate to YOUR multiple-post diatribe about Radiohead.

And sure, I can get the fuck out. So can you every time you take a shit on weight lifters, football fans, and anyone else who is into something you don't like, you counter-culture wannabe elitist asswipe.

chill bro maybe we could just chill and play some madden and drink some natty ice

you're a fucking pedestrian

[Melchiah]

chill bro maybe we could just chill and play some madden and drink some natty ice

you're a fucking pedestrian

This is exactly why you're an idiot.

Tell me, what on earth makes you think I have ever owned any iteration of Madden football, or drink Natural Ice?

Because you know, I do neither.

You have this sorely mistaken misconception that people who disagree with you or like shit you don't are substandard. And you can blow that right out of your ass.

[Plow]

this is what I'm calling you out on, for reference.



I'm criticizing your inaccurate representation of their musical evolution and motivations, you dolt. creep was on pablo honey and fit with the rest of the album well; their next big singles from the bends, and the album as a whole, sound very little like creep/pablo honey yet you claimed that they've been remaking creep to mimic american music for the past ten years, which is a load of shit.

Not just creep, also You, and Stop Whispering.

You know, the 3 songs that got them on the radio.

honey was their first album as radiohead, and it's the album that brought them some commercial success, yet their subsequent albums sound different and not particularly Americanized... I mean c'mon, do you really think Kid A and Hail to the Thief are Americanized pop albums? Your remaining comment is the depressed nature of the songs, but look at In Rainbows- not a particularly depressing record, imo at least. touching at times but not the kind of angst expressed in Creep. on top of that you talk about pre-Radiohead radiohead as being "an upbeat post-punk" sort of band yet there's nothing particularly upbeat about a lot of post-punk (hey joy division, the cure). On A Friday sometimes sounds like Joy Division and other times like U2- a mix of depressed and upbeat (should I bother pointing out that The Bends mixes in some upbeat as well?).

First, I said pop-punk, not "post punk." Think Green Day. And no, I'm not saying they sound like Green Day, I'm saying Pablo Honey was in that vein.



I haven't given a shit since like... Talk Show Host. And whichever one Karma Police was on. Talking about Kid A, In Rainbows, whatever, doesn't pertain to this discussion-- they already made themselves rich rock stars by then.

so look, I get that you're trying to play the "well they definitely sold out and bowed down to record company demands to sound more American but I don't care because the music is still good" card to evoke a hip anti-hipster mentality but you're not fooling anyone.

I know this sounds fucking crazy, but did it ever occur to you that I'm just being honest? That perhaps I actually do still like the music, regardless of the ethical or moral lines behind it?

I know, honesty in a music argument is an alien concept to some fag that wants his way to be the "cool" way and will say anything to attempt to present it as such (i.e. 99.99999% of these dipshits that start massive arguments anytime someone says something about radiohead other than slurp slurp), but there really are people out there like myself that couldn't care less what kind of musical "integrity" people show as long as they make good music.

I still listen to Sugar fucking Ray almost every day. You know why? Because they made some great fucking music before Fly came out and made them rich and they made a few more albums trying to milk that cow. And guess what... it's still great music.


also, just lol @ people that can't grasp the concept of "this album had a couple songs that sounded different from the rest, those songs got popular, the rest didn't, and they decided to follow the money songs"


and here, since I really don't feel like being a big part of the 500 billionth internet radiohead argument, I'll even rephrase my statement


If they didn't want to be rich and famous, perhaps they shouldn't have chosen to make themselves rich and famous.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Not just creep, also You, and Stop Whispering.

You know, the 3 songs that got them on the radio.




First, I said pop-punk, not "post punk." Think Green Day. And no, I'm not saying they sound like Green Day, I'm saying Pablo Honey was in that vein.



I haven't given a shit since like... Talk Show Host. And whichever one Karma Police was on. Talking about Kid A, In Rainbows, whatever, doesn't pertain to this discussion-- they already made themselves rich rock stars by then.






I know this sounds fucking crazy, but did it ever occur to you that I'm just being honest? That perhaps I actually do still like the music, regardless of the ethical or moral lines behind it?

I know, honesty in a music argument is an alien concept to some fag that wants his way to be the "cool" way and will say anything to attempt to present it as such (i.e. 99.99999% of these dipshits that start massive arguments anytime someone says something about radiohead other than slurp slurp), but there really are people out there like myself that couldn't care less what kind of musical "integrity" people show as long as they make good music.

I still listen to Sugar fucking Ray almost every day. You know why? Because they made some great fucking music before Fly came out and made them rich and they made a few more albums trying to milk that cow. And guess what... it's still great music.


also, just lol @ people that can't grasp the concept of "this album had a couple songs that sounded different from the rest, those songs got popular, the rest didn't, and they decided to follow the money songs"


and here, since I really don't feel like being a big part of the 500 billionth internet radiohead argument, I'll even rephrase my statement


If they didn't want to be rich and famous, perhaps they shouldn't have chosen to make themselves rich and famous.

You really don't know shit about the music industry and contracts and such. Even then you're dead wrong in your arguments about their sound and I can't lay it out better than Beckwin already did.

They went in the direction of In Rainbows because they were able to make an album outside of the confines of record label execs on their cock trying to create an image and direct their sound for profit.

I'm sure on some tracks in a few albums were made to sound radio friendly at the labels direction or their contract would be cancelled and they would be sued for everything they're worth.

ITT: People making angsty teenager "sellout" diatribes

[Plow]

You really don't know shit about the music industry and contracts and such. Even then you're dead wrong in your arguments about their sound and I can't lay it out better than Beckwin already did.

They went in the direction of In Rainbows because they were able to make an album outside of the confines of record label execs on their cock trying to create an image and direct their sound for profit.

I'm sure on some tracks in a few albums were made to sound radio friendly at the labels direction or their contract would be cancelled and they would be sued for everything they're worth.

ITT: People making angsty teenager "sellout" diatribes

Hate to break it to you but I made 1 comment, and tried not to argue about it, you folks just can't let anything remotely negative stated about radiohead slide.

You're right, I don't know and don't care about the music industry. Neither do you, other than what you've seen in the movies.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Hate to break it to you but I made 1 comment, and tried not to argue about it, you folks just can't let anything remotely negative stated about radiohead slide.

You're right, I don't know and don't care about the music industry. Neither do you, other than what you've seen in the movies.

There's a difference between criticism and making something up so you sound like you know what you're talking about.

For someone who doesn't care about the music industry you spent a good amount of time in this thread pouting about Radiohead being americanized and selling out.

And I'll let that baseless assumption about me slide, you've already embarrassed yourself enough jawing about Radiohead albums you listened to two songs out of total.

[Deftscythe]

I know that after the whole ebody color thing I shouldn't be surprised about the things people are willing to argue about, but I am honestly shocked that anyone cared enough about this to make the thread longer than one page.

[Katlan]

RadioHead +1, everyone else -

[Plow]

There's a difference between criticism and making something up so you sound like you know what you're talking about.

For someone who doesn't care about the music industry you spent a good amount of time in this thread pouting about Radiohead being americanized and selling out.

And I'll let that baseless assumption about me slide, you've already embarrassed yourself enough jawing about Radiohead albums you listened to two songs out of total.

If you actually have a clue about what you're trying to imply, all I have to say is Neil Young.

[Beckwin]

lol melchiah, you get all piss and vinegar when I imply that you're a pedestrian bro, complaining about generalizing and whatnot, after you call me a "counter-culture wannabe elitist asswipe"

ok broski, just chill. i agree for real brah, radiohead should stop being faggot hipster snobs. they were flat out rude bro.





and plow, tell me, did the subsequent single (i.e. the songs that get on the radio) from The Bends and OK Computer sound like copies of Creep, You, etc? spoilers: the answer is no, and that alone kills your premise.

my mistake if you actually said pop-punk, but then again pop-punk wasn't really around (especially in britain) during the On A Friday years. Either way pop-punk is a largely american thing and american invented, so which is it: did they sound americanized before or after pablo honey? you're tripping all over yourself. just stop.

[Zalius]

time halts

[Plow]

and plow, tell me, did the subsequent single (i.e. the songs that get on the radio) from The Bends and OK Computer sound like copies of Creep, You, etc? spoilers: the answer is no, and that alone kills your premise.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Listen to 20 damn seconds of each of these, then try to say that again, I fucking dare you.

YouTube - Radiohead - Stop Whispering
YouTube - Radiohead - High & Dry

YouTube - Radiohead - Creep
YouTube - KARMA POLICE-RADIOHEAD

zomg it features the piano instead of the bass, TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Oh, wait, there's the bass.

my mistake if you actually said pop-punk, but then again pop-punk wasn't really around (especially in britain) during the On A Friday years. Either way pop-punk is a largely american thing and american invented, so which is it: did they sound americanized before or after pablo honey? you're tripping all over yourself. just stop.

Right, pop-punk is American. Right. You really just said that.

Just out of curiosity, can you name a few of the most POPular punk musicians ever?

[Melchiah]

lol melchiah, you get all piss and vinegar when I imply that you're a pedestrian bro, complaining about generalizing and whatnot, after you call me a "counter-culture wannabe elitist asswipe"

ok broski, just chill. i agree for real brah, radiohead should stop being faggot hipster snobs. they were flat out rude bro.

The difference between us sir, is that I took a shit on you for your repeated slamming of just about anything that finds it's way into mainstream popularity, regardless of it's inherent quality or lack thereof, whereas all you can do is attempt to insult my intelligence based solely on the fact that I disagree with you, and called you out on being just as trendy as the people you so disdain.

Get over yourself, you aren't any cooler than anyone else because you like a certain genre, artist, or because you tell yourself that you are the sole authority on what sucks and what doesn't.