RadioHead Vs Miley + Kayne

[Silenka]

ITT: A well-respected band doesn't want to meet a bratty no-talent manufactured idol demanding to meet them, and they're the ones in the wrong

[Plow]

ITT: A well-respected band doesn't want to meet a bratty no-talent manufactured idol demanding to meet them, and they're the ones in the wrong

how about


ITT: Celebrities are assholes to each other over stupid shit, but since we like one of them it's ok.

[Correction]

how about


ITT: Celebrities are assholes to each other over stupid shit, but since we like one of them it's ok.

And that's why pro wrestling is profitable.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

how about


ITT: Celebrities are assholes to each other over stupid shit, but since we like one of them it's ok.

And we wouldn't be having this discussion if those two artists didn't act like butthurt divas about it.

[Wintermute]

And we wouldn't be having this discussion if those two artists didn't act like butthurt divas about it.

Radiohead needs to invest in some sort of "Right of Admission Reserved" sign.

[Plow]

And we wouldn't be having this discussion if those two artists didn't act like butthurt divas about it.

Nor would we be having this discussion if some divas weren't butthurt about being divas.

[Beckwin]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Listen to 20 damn seconds of each of these, then try to say that again, I fucking dare you.

YouTube - Radiohead - Stop Whispering
YouTube - Radiohead - High & Dry

YouTube - Radiohead - Creep
YouTube - KARMA POLICE-RADIOHEAD

zomg it features the piano instead of the bass, TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Oh, wait, there's the bass.



Right, pop-punk is American. Right. You really just said that.

Just out of curiosity, can you name a few of the most POPular punk musicians ever?

you've gone off the fucking deep end if you're comparing Karma Police to Creep and saying they're virtually the same song/style. absolutely batshit insane. Even High and Dry to Stop Whispering is a huge fucking stretch dude. Different vocal deliveries, different song structures, different overall tone, etc.

and are you really trying to pretend that pop-punk isn't a genre rather than "punk music that got popular"? jesus christ you've gotta be trolling if you're implying that we should be referring to the sex pistols and the clash as "pop punk" just because they were popular. pop-punk, which is the term for a subgenre, is blink-182 kind of stuff. more whimsical lyrically, accessible, smoother vocals, and poppier structures.

[Xiona]

What?! Someone shit on the coats??

[Beckwin]

The difference between us sir, is that I took a shit on you for your repeated slamming of just about anything that finds it's way into mainstream popularity, regardless of it's inherent quality or lack thereof, whereas all you can do is attempt to insult my intelligence based solely on the fact that I disagree with you, and called you out on being just as trendy as the people you so disdain.

Get over yourself, you aren't any cooler than anyone else because you like a certain genre, artist, or because you tell yourself that you are the sole authority on what sucks and what doesn't.

Yeah bro I'm a terrible person for bothering to be discerning and when it comes to entertainment. My initial comment was an explanation for why this topic was yielding such silly ass responses- people with largely mainstream tastes lashing out at the hipsters/elitists/snobs/<insert perjorative term> in radiohead despite that if it was anonymous trolling Cyrus it'd be 50 pages of "zomg epic".

You're absolutely right that I view the majority of mainstream media/entertainment negatively, but it's my damn perogative to express that and you made the mistake about assuming I regard everything mainstream as shit- I mean it's really telling how little you thought about it, because goddam radiohead is just about the alternative/indie band with the biggest mainstream breakthrough success I can think of. I mentioned rhcp to stir up the pot but mainly to highlight the accessibility and lack of effort/interest required to listen to their music, despite them admittedly being a talented band that's made some good music in their career.

And don't act like I don't realize that taste is subjective; however a soft point can still stand when I can argue my point convincingly/effectively versus someone who cannot.

finally, don't dish it if you can't take it/if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen, because on this forum it's pretty much the standard for things outside of a fairly narrow mainstream (with a bend toward the geeky side, as I initially pointed out) to get lambasted for being emo/faggotry/hipster trash/pussy/etc.

[Plow]

you've gone off the fucking deep end if you're comparing Karma Police to Creep and saying they're virtually the same song/style. absolutely batshit insane. Even High and Dry to Stop Whispering is a huge fucking stretch dude. Different vocal deliveries, different song structures, different overall tone, etc.

You're right, I'm accusing them of taking the song creep, putting it on a new album with a different title, and releasing it as a "new" single, and that's totally not what they did.

and are you really trying to pretend that pop-punk isn't a genre rather than "punk music that got popular"? jesus christ you've gotta be trolling if you're implying that we should be referring to the sex pistols and the clash as "pop punk" just because they were popular. pop-punk, which is the term for a subgenre, is blink-182 kind of stuff. more whimsical lyrically, accessible, smoother vocals, and poppier structures.

Honestly, were you even born within 10 years of the Sex Pistols existing?


Have you honestly never heard of the Pogues? That's pretty surprising for a massive radiohead cock sucker that wants to consider himself an expert on music.

The Undertones? The Buzzcocks? And, uh, rofl @ the Clash, the epitome of original pop-punk.


You're right, it has evolved into Blink 182, Green Day, etc. Music does that. But since you don't seem to have noticed, there were musicians around before you started paying attention.

[Ace-o-fire]

Next you're going to tell me that Tool is garbage too.

well......

[Plow]

mainly to highlight the accessibility and lack of effort/interest required to listen to their music.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...k-smug-313.gif



They totally should have had him jamming to radiohead in that scene.

[Norelco]

"When Miley grows up, she'll learn not to have such a sense of entitlement," the quintet said in a statement.

lol so awesome.

[Septimus]

I have come to a conclusion. I even if I would be able to, I cannot go to the next Fan Fest since I would not want to gleefully meet with each and every person who wants to meet with me since I will be considered a douchey and terrible person for it. I should have known that I was unable to handle this sort of responsibility to my fans when I started to do front page updates, the blaring lime-light of BG front pages is just too much of a burden for me to bear.

Yes, too late have I learned that doing anything that garners you even the slightest amount of attention means that you are no longer allowed to have any shred of privacy and that you are subject to the whims of the public. If you do not acquiesce to the every demand of every person who claims to love you, you are a terrible person who is not worthy of their praise. Once you gain fans, it is your responsibility to spend your every waking moment doing everything that you can to please them no matter how much it may conflict with your own beliefs and ideals.

So as of this date, I am giving up doing front-page updates and am going to move to an isolated mountain cabin where I will self-flagellate every day because I could not live my life up to the standards that you, complete strangers who have never met me and pretend to know all about me through my work and various interviews and posts in which you disregard any information that you find inconvenient to your preconceived ideas of me, have put upon me. Too late I now know that the most terrible crime that a person can possibly commit is to not be everything that total strangers want them to be.

Seriously, I don't think that I can sarcastic any harder than this.

[Beckwin]

septimus the only thing that could make that post even sweeter is mentioning whatshisface from ffxiclopedia requesting to meet with you.

[Beckwin]

You're right, I'm accusing them of taking the song creep, putting it on a new album with a different title, and releasing it as a "new" single, and that's totally not what they did.

It is essentially what you're doing. You're implying they took of in some Creep-defined direction out of monetary desire. You're acting like they put out an album that sounded like Creep every year just to rake in more dough. Yes, Pablo Honey and Creep were a bit of a departure from their On A Friday work, but in turn The Bends/OK Computer/Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail to the Thief/In Rainbows have all been even larger departures from Pablo Honey. You pretty much have to accept that to have any credibility, and so then your assertion turns into "any artist that progresses in style is only doing it to try and get rich", aka selling out or succumbing to commercialization. It's really hard to sell that argument as being universal, particularly in the case of radiohead.

Honestly, were you even born within 10 years of the Sex Pistols existing?


Have you honestly never heard of the Pogues? That's pretty surprising for a massive radiohead cock sucker that wants to consider himself an expert on music.

The Undertones? The Buzzcocks? And, uh, rofl @ the Clash, the epitome of original pop-punk.


You're right, it has evolved into Blink 182, Green Day, etc. Music does that. But since you don't seem to have noticed, there were musicians around before you started paying attention.

I was born in 86, so yeah I think I fit that 10 year timeline.

Yes, I've heard of the Pogues and Buzzcocks.

I'll be fair and give you credit on the pop-punk point, but I just disagree with the timeframe you (and to your credit, others) claim it really existed as a defined genre. Pogues feel more like folk-influenced punk/new-wave ish rather than something distinctly pop-punk. I personally put pop-punk as a definable subgenre starting with the later 80s/early90s American bands. There's no universal agreement on when it really started in earnest, so it could go either way (in contrast with post-punk and hardcore, which are easier to peg on a timeline). Basically, you're saying that the bands I would just consider influential on pop-punk to be pop-punk themselves. fair enough. I don't consider Led Zeppelin to be metal/heavy metal, but of course they're hugely influential on the genre.

Oh and if your argument is just gonna turn into "i'm older than u", you might as well just quit before you're further behind, because it's only reinforcing that you have little understanding of post-Honey Radiohead's music.






Melchiah: Tool sucks. you're only making my whole point in this topic stronger.

[Enkidu]

Melchiah: Tool sucks. you're only making my whole point in this topic stronger.

Tool is fuckin amazing, your just another sheep.

and radiohead is trash lol. tried listenting to that new album and it was fuckin gay. there drummer first of all sucks. im so used to tools drummer tearin shit up that it was painful to listen to this crap. second is How slow the song is. i dont mind like one slow song on a cd but wtf at Every song feeling like its 10 minutes. also im used to more deep lyrics from maynard then radioheads sinGer. to each there own and whatever, but imho tool is much better overall then rAdiohead.

plus im pretty sure tool would meet with anyone cause there all cool as hell. one of my friends met them once and said Maynard was really cool in person and wasnt all like "gEt away" with security and stuff like radiohead is.

[miokomioko]

Claiming that Radiohead has marketed themselves off of "Creep" is the same as claiming you don't know one fucking thing about the band as well as being deaf.

"The song that nearly broke the band apart, Creep was released twice as a single in the UK and was a pretty major hit, but not as much as in America, where Radiohead were known for "that Creep song". As the band toured America, people would turn up just to hear Creep and leave. No-one paid any attention to Pablo Honey, or any of the new songs from The Bends, and very soon every college student was singing it, and it graced every karaoke machine and jukebox in the country.

Ever since then, the band have been trying to break free of being bound by Creep. They hate the song, yet do feel obliged to play it "we only play this because it is still a good song". They wrote My Iron Lung purposely about their hatred of the song, but it was not until the recent hit of Paranoid Android that the band start to see some mass recognition of other songs. However, they band will always be burdened with Creep.

Bizarrely, the original words to the song had a line : "shoulder of lamb, frying in a pan", and reportedly, Jonny's now-famous guitar 'scratchings' were his way of showing frustration which was otherwise a boring, quiet song."

"[About the guitar part] That's the sound of Jonny trying to fuck the song up. He really didn't like it the first time we played it, so he tried spoiling it." - Ed

[Kuya]

"[About the guitar part] That's the sound of Jonny trying to fuck the song up. He really didn't like it the first time we played it, so he tried spoiling it." - Ed

lol

[Brill Weave]

Not going to get into the shit slinging contest. I personally like Radiohead and have since I heard their first cd. Even if I didn't enjoy their music I would still laugh my ass off about them basically giving Miley and Kanye a big fuck you leave us alone move.

On a side note though, who the fuck is Kanye West? Is this the same guy who was looking for the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance after he didn't get an MTV award or some shit? Fuck Kanye West. I would love to see Miley Cyrus try to "ruin" Radiohead, or any other band. Let's see what her legions of tweener fans(who have never even heard of Radiohead) and Billy Ray can do against well, anybody.