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    Drk,
    T1: 5/5 LR recast, 5/5 LR effect.
    T2: 5/5 D.Eye, 3/5 D.Blows, 1/5 D.Seal. The last merit doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudius View Post
    Drk,
    T1: 5/5 LR recast, 5/5 LR effect.
    T2: 5/5 D.Eye, 3/5 D.Blows, 1/5 D.Seal. The last merit doesn't matter.
    It does when you don't have hasso up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudius View Post
    Drk,
    T1: 5/5 LR recast, 5/5 LR effect.
    T2: 5/5 D.Eye, 3/5 D.Blows, 1/5 D.Seal. The last merit doesn't matter.

    just wondering if you ever sj anything outside sam XD

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    The 4th merit matters (in a zerg) and the 5th doesn't (in a zerg, partially in merits) if you don't have hasso up (which you won't always have).

    Remember, there's 2 caps in this respect: 80% hard cap (gear, magic, JA), and 25% JA cap (DB, Hasso). Between those two the 5th DB merit will hardly ever matter, and it's therefore more beneficial to put 1 merit in DS, which will give you a nice HP boost for zergs.

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    dont think you should bring in db in SP zergs for a drk.........

    just saying normal time fighting something, where you /nin and w/o lvl 5 DB

    do you always bring dnc if your not 5/5 DB? lol

    just a situation where drk/nin is good to have: einherjar pre-boss.....you prolly dont have a dnc either so where do you make up for the 10% in these "NQ situation?"

    not to mention an apoc drk prolly cut things up usually w/o SP and not always SJ SAM

    btw, im not questioning. im just curious how you make up for that on an apoc drk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maaglin View Post
    It does when you don't have hasso up.
    Plan ahead and you shouldn't have to use LR without hasso.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    just wondering if you ever sj anything outside sam XD
    Yea /nin, but only for zergs, and only since they nerfed 2H zergs. :3
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    The 4th merit matters (in a zerg) and the 5th doesn't (in a zerg, partially in merits) if you don't have hasso up (which you won't always have).

    Remember, there's 2 caps in this respect: 80% hard cap (gear, magic, JA), and 25% JA cap (DB, Hasso). Between those two the 5th DB merit will hardly ever matter, and it's therefore more beneficial to put 1 merit in DS, which will give you a nice HP boost for zergs.
    Well I guess yes, if you want to zerg with a 2H weapon, don't want to sub SAM or DRG(for some reason), and have less than 22% gear haste, then yes that 4th merit matters...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    dont think you should bring in db in SP zergs for a drk.........

    just saying normal time fighting something, where you /nin and w/o lvl 5 DB

    do you always bring dnc if your not 5/5 DB? lol

    just a situation where drk/nin is good to have: einherjar pre-boss.....you prolly dont have a dnc either so where do you make up for the 10% in these "NQ situation?"

    not to mention an apoc drk prolly cut things up usually w/o SP and not always SJ SAM

    btw, im not questioning. im just curious how you make up for that on an apoc drk.
    I just never had to not sub SAM (including Einherjar).
    But I guess you're right that last merit should go into DB, for situations where you'd normally go /nin (Einherjar, etc.), but buffing LR's 30s with a 5th merit isn't worth losing Dark seal for imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudius View Post
    Plan ahead and you shouldn't have to use LR without hasso.

    I guess. For a relic drk you can get away with full-timeing hasso more than a non-relic drk.

    Still don't know why a relic drk would choose LR effect over SE recast though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maaglin View Post
    I guess. For a relic drk you can get away with full-timeing hasso more than a non-relic drk.

    Still don't know why a relic drk would choose LR effect over SE recast though.
    I guess so. Catastrophe has probably spoiled me into being more careless.

    As for SE recast, I did have it 5/5 around a year or two ago (who's keeping track ), but switched it to LR effect when I noticed I rarely use SE, and if I do it's not as soon as it's up.
    If Im not holding back then Im probably tanking, and it's not practical to use SE in these situations.

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    i couldnt decide LR effect vs SE recast for my apoc

    so i mix lol

    will fix to 5 SE when i got time.......i got too many jobs to merit atm

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