Suspension of Character Creation on Bahamut World (Mar. 17)

[Qtipus]

Sun-Thurs, you'll see 3k people on pretty consistently during NA primetime. During JP prime, it's upwards of 4k. It's not uncommon for me to wake up in the morning (7:30AMish est) and see 2-3 "GTFO OF WHITEGATE" system messages that were sent at varying points throughout the night. Fri-Sat have always been where the major clusterfucks are. Otherwise, it's usually an average of 1.5-2k people milling about.

I haven't had any issues logging into the game like I did when they were serving up those warnings about Odin's population, so I can only assume they raised the warning caps until population has dwindled or the population actually has dwindled some.

[Jem]

Asura is a hellhole so more than likely we will get a lot of people coming over here. Well at least it'll provide some entertainment if there's some drama attached.

[Mizango]

lol Pandy is always on these transfer lists. I pity the fool.

[FallingHigher]

Why can't they do this with Midgar ;;

[Elipse]

Odin is the victim of lots of exaggerations and gross assumptions. I just did /sea all, 1808 people on.. yes, it's not JP prime time yet, but even then.. we're hardly at "5k people all the time." Even on the weekend + JP prime time, I haven't seen us break 4k since I've come back to the game. Obviously there's room for error in what I said (I'm not on 24/7, and when I am I'm not spamming /sea all.. but I do make it a point to check when I get really fucking bored.)

It's just not as bad as people think.

Its not gross assumptions. I've been on and seen 5k+ people, watched the exp camps get trampled and impossible to find a place to go, I've been unable to even log in the game cause whitegate is so full you can't log in. I've got Austrailian members of my LS that tell me it was a nightly thing for months on end having constant DC's if you were to zone into whitegate. Enough that they would be sure to log out in another zone so they could log into the game later. Sure it wasn't impossible to exp 24/7 at every single waking moment but enough so that you would say "Oh you wanna exp?" and get "No its a Friday, we'll wait till monday and see if we can get lucky with a camp", followed by "Oh yeah crap I forgot it was the weekend". Even on Mondays it might be so busy you were stuck exping at trolls or finding something else to do. So sure it wasn't every single moment but its not an assumption, it was a large problem you clearly missed.

This was an on going issue for close to a year before they even locked the server. Odin is now "Full", its just not "Bursting at the seams and ready to explode" anymore. Just cause you don't see it since you've been "back to the game" doesn't mean it wasn't an issue or it was an exaggeration.

[ringthree]

Its not gross assumptions. I've been on and seen 5k+ people, watched the exp camps get trampled and impossible to find a place to go, I've been unable to even log in the game cause whitegate is so full you can't log in. I've got Austrailian members of my LS that tell me it was a nightly thing for months on end having constant DC's if you were to zone into whitegate. Enough that they would be sure to log out in another zone so they could log into the game later. Sure it wasn't impossible to exp 24/7 at every single waking moment but enough so that you would say "Oh you wanna exp?" and get "No its a Friday, we'll wait till monday and see if we can get lucky with a camp", followed by "Oh yeah crap I forgot it was the weekend". Even on Mondays it might be so busy you were stuck exping at trolls or finding something else to do. So sure it wasn't every single moment but its not an assumption, it was a large problem you clearly missed.

This was an on going issue for close to a year before they even locked the server. Odin is now "Full", its just not "Bursting at the seams and ready to explode" anymore. Just cause you don't see it since you've been "back to the game" doesn't mean it wasn't an issue or it was an exaggeration.

There has only been one day that I got the "you can not log on because the server is at max", the rest of the time people can't log on is due to their weaker connections and the amount of data they are receiving. I am in Whitegate all the time at peak times and I never have a problem that I can't attribute to my roommate downloading and uploading half of the worlds movie collection simultaneously.

The situation is definitely between what Elipse and Ryskar have said here. It's pretty packed, and getting a bird camp for more than 15 minutes without having another party of horrible players come in and pull just enough birds to ruin any chance of a chain is near impossible, but connection issues are not because of the server population in my experience. That has to do with their connection.

This is besides the point that most people think there are only 5 merit party locations in the entire game anymore.

[Elipse]

When the server has over 750 people in whitegate, you cannot connect to it (maybe its 740, or 760, but somewhere around this high number). It has nothing to do with their connections. I've been at work on IBM's corporate backbone from the data center and not been able to connect.

[ringthree]

When the server has over 750 people in whitegate, you cannot connect to it (maybe its 740, or 760, but somewhere around this high number). It has nothing to do with their connections. I've been at work on IBM's corporate backbone from the data center and not been able to connect.

I have to wonder when that is the case, because I am on a whole lot and I have never been blocked from entering Whitegate or dc'ed because of the number of people in Whitegate.

[Not Kuno]

Theres a zone cap. Over 600 and it gets slower, over 750 and you start to get kicked/unable to log in etc.

[Toksyuryel]

The rumors of FFXI's impending demise have been greatly exaggerated.

[Elipse]

I have to wonder when that is the case, because I am on a whole lot and I have never been blocked from entering Whitegate or dc'ed because of the number of people in Whitegate.

I play all odd hours of the day cause of my work schedule. Usually this problem seemed to start around 3-6 am est and I'm sure it wasn't every single day of the week, but it happened often enough that I would hear the complaints and be told what they were doing to get around them. I'm not always playing in that hour range (only a couple days a month) but I've seen the problem first hand and it wasn't while playing on a weak connection.

Either you get DC'd all together, you can't log in or the zone loading takes what feels like (never timed it) a couple minutes to load. When you can't log in, its like spaming the servers during update time. If you keep trying eventually you'll slip in where someone else just left whitegate or got DC'd themselves.

I don't always play at those hours, so I would have to ask others how bad its been recently but since the closing of the servers, I haven't heard them complaining and I haven't experienced the unable to log in/dc on zone in problems. So, I don't think this is still a problem (or as bad of one). My comments were more geared towards before they locked down the servers than now. Less RMT, a few bannings, and whatever people have left Odin by choice have eased the problem.

Either way, I think Ryskar gave a far too extreme view point on the problem by saying there simply were no issues and people were wrong, especially when he says in the same post "Since I've been back to the game" implying he wasn't always here when it really was a problem. We had a problem and in my opinion still do. SE has programmed this game this game with far too narrow vision (1 Fafnir pops every 21-24 hours, only a few really solid exp camps, etc). The BG front page is perfect, create a zone with 400 colibri and make everyone happy lol

[ryskar]

I play all odd hours of the day cause of my work schedule. Usually this problem seemed to start around 3-6 am est and I'm sure it wasn't every single day of the week, but it happened often enough that I would hear the complaints and be told what they were doing to get around them. I'm not always playing in that hour range (only a couple days a month) but I've seen the problem first hand and it wasn't while playing on a weak connection.

Either you get DC'd all together, you can't log in or the zone loading takes what feels like (never timed it) a couple minutes to load. When you can't log in, its like spaming the servers during update time. If you keep trying eventually you'll slip in where someone else just left whitegate or got DC'd themselves.

I don't always play at those hours, so I would have to ask others how bad its been recently but since the closing of the servers, I haven't heard them complaining and I haven't experienced the unable to log in/dc on zone in problems. So, I don't think this is still a problem (or as bad of one). My comments were more geared towards before they locked down the servers than now. Less RMT, a few bannings, and whatever people have left Odin by choice have eased the problem.

Either way, I think Ryskar gave a far too extreme view point on the problem by saying there simply were no issues and people were wrong, especially when he says in the same post "Since I've been back to the game" implying he wasn't always here when it really was a problem. We had a problem and in my opinion still do. SE has programmed this game this game with far too narrow vision (1 Fafnir pops every 21-24 hours, only a few really solid exp camps, etc). The BG front page is perfect, create a zone with 400 colibri and make everyone happy lol

I didn't say it wasn't an issue, I just stated that people think Odin regularly still gets full to this day. Like I said, I haven't personally seen it for the two months or so I've been back.

Was it a bigger issue while I was gone? Sure it was. I regularly talked to Doovin on MSN and while he'd update me on the happenings of 1kN, he'd also tell me about updates and the like; including Odin's population explosion.

I'm talking about the present, not during the peak of the population crisis...

[thinktank]

We need congestion pricing, where it would cost more money to enter very crowded servers and cheaper prices for very sparse servers. Maybe 40.00 for the very busy servers, 25.00 for the moderately busy servers and maybe 15.00 for the not as very populated servers. Congestion pricing would make world transfer better on the server load.

[AlexRuzhyo]

I wonder if some linkshell's bank and bank owner's character would get "forcibly migrated", should SE decide to do it.

But it would suck if you don't have a say in the matter.

[Mifaco]

Does this mean no more RMT tells?

[Nymphadora]

If it means no more RMT tells, I woudn't be complaining if they'd ever lock down Unicorn.