Cheapest way for Goldsmithing 50-60?

[calinz]

So I've been wondering this for a while.. checked Mysterytour and FFXI-AH and as far as I can tell the cheapest way these days would be Gold Ore>Gold Ingot>Gold Hairpin>Gold Ring.

Am I doing it right? Or is there a cheaper way that I'm not seeing? Mind you I've accounted for desynths in the choice of Hairpin/Ring.

[Raikiri]

I am on that right now too. I think if you did that it would be pretty expensive if you bought all of the mats of ah for it.

I was gonna do Gold ingots to 52.

Then Hydro claws to 58. They are a level 59 synth.

Fire crystal
Animal glue x1
Claw
Mythril Sheet x1

Platinum ingot to 60-61

[Rilu]

I did something similar, my gold sub is a 60+1

50-51 Gold ingots from Bst coins (this was actually profitable when I did it) and I saved all the ingots I made during this span.

51-54 Gold ingots from Gold Ore +6x Gold Nugget (there was someone who was growing these, and sold them pretty cheap on mule on my server, so I went this route) again, saving all the ingots.

54-55 I made the Mythril Ring + gem here, usually Pearl Rings and then desynthed for the mythril ingots again, making more rings and repeated. I had rings to start out with from getting to 47 gold so this went pretty quick.

55-58 Gold Hairpins - Desynthing as well and re-using gold ingots I got back. This span went surprisingly quick for me too.

58-60 Gold Rings which I teamed with a high level goldsmither to sell off - he bought them all from me, so I didn't have to wait on AH'ing everything here. I did run out of gold ingots that I had saved up here though.

59-60 Mythril Cuisses - This is a relatively cheap synth comparatively, and with prices of mythril sheets on my server at the time, this was only a couple K loss after NPC'ing them.

Overall, going from 50-60 on gold, I lost only a couple 100K. It wasn't nearly as "rough" as I thought it would be.

[Celebrindor]

I did platinum ingots from coins->platinum sheets for my last few levels to hit 60 (also 60+1). Its above level 60, and they sell slow as hell, but at least when I did it platinum sheets were quite popular as they are part of the BLU AF I believe. Again, they sold extremely slow, but since it was a sub that I had sitting at 55+1 for over a year (first craft before I swapped to Clothcraft), I could take the time.

[warrior2582]

One craft that people often over look is Gold Chains 55 GS.

It is used in Errant Houppelande and Cursed Dalmatica as well as some of the new AF quests.

All the crafts mentioned here is a good way to get to 60, just be sure to check how much everything costs to make, sell price, and sell rate on your server.

Also keep in mind that Mythril Cuisses is a GP item for 61-70. There is also a number of high level crafts that have subcraft Goldsmithing in the 51-60 range allowing you to level 2 crafts at once.

[calinz]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm only getting it to 60 since its a sub for my Clothcraft. I'm looking for the cheapest way to do it using only AH bought stuff so I guess the platinum ingot(from 4 coins) is the best option for 55-60(I have the glasses already so can risk it), since it's currently at a profit.

Gonna do Gold Coins to Ingots to 51 since that's also at a profit and the question now remains what to do for 51-55 then? I've never liked the chain option since they can't be desynthed meaning I have to wait forever till they sell.

I think the ring synth might come out too expensive considering the chances of desynth.

[warrior2582]

51-54 Gold ingots from Gold Ore +6x Gold Nugget (there was someone who was growing these, and sold them pretty cheap on mule on my server, so I went this route) again, saving all the ingots.

Is generally the best option on most servers.

I suggested gold chains cause it sells pretty fast for break even on my server. Personally, I would just wait till 90+ CC and make the gold chains for Errant Houppelande and Cursed Dalmatica to get to 100. (pray for hqs while skilling up!)

If you do not want to wait, check hydro claws and gold hairpin for quick skill ups.

[Ryphen]

I did this not too long ago on a bonecraft mule. I think I went gold ingot (4x gold beastcoins) to 51, gold ingot (1 gold ore, 6x gold nugget) to 54, gold hairpin to 57 desynthing the hairpins to get the ingots back, then platinum ingots (1 platinum ore, 6x platinum nugget) to 60 using goldsmithing support in Al Zahbi. Sold off any gold and platinum ingots I had leftover when I was done.

Didn't lose nearly as much gil as I was expecting. 2-300k maybe, can't remember.

[Rilu]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm only getting it to 60 since its a sub for my Clothcraft. I'm looking for the cheapest way to do it using only AH bought stuff so I guess the platinum ingot(from 4 coins) is the best option for 55-60(I have the glasses already so can risk it), since it's currently at a profit.

Gonna do Gold Coins to Ingots to 51 since that's also at a profit and the question now remains what to do for 51-55 then? I've never liked the chain option since they can't be desynthed meaning I have to wait forever till they sell.

I think the ring synth might come out too expensive considering the chances of desynth.

If you don't mind waiting days between skillup synths, this might be the way to go (with the platinum bst coins > ingots) but on my server, they were RARELY on, and if they were on, they were purchased extrememly fast.

Also, in relation to clothcraft, I don't believe I skilled up on Errant Body tbh, I know I did Dalmatica's, but that was only after i'd exhausted the Rasetsu Samue recipe to 99 and needed 99-100.

[Raikiri]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm only getting it to 60 since its a sub for my Clothcraft. I'm looking for the cheapest way to do it using only AH bought stuff so I guess the platinum ingot(from 4 coins) is the best option for 55-60(I have the glasses already so can risk it), since it's currently at a profit.

Gonna do Gold Coins to Ingots to 51 since that's also at a profit and the question now remains what to do for 51-55 then? I've never liked the chain option since they can't be desynthed meaning I have to wait forever till they sell.

I think the ring synth might come out too expensive considering the chances of desynth.

Since you have glasses, you can get image support for another +1 or advance for +3 and do hydro claws. Once you hit 51 GS, they are probably the cheapest way to get to 58. ( can desynth them into mythril ingots). Only downside is you might have to find a smither to craft you claws if none are on ah.

Then just save all the platinum coins you find until you get to 58. That way you might be able to get to 60 in a few skill up sessions. You wont break as many either.

[Zerv]

i'm working on my GS as well, sitting at 53.2, and after i capped on gold ores recipe i was thinking on just doing platinum ingots from beastcoins til 60.
Problem is, there's not many on AH and they sell really fast as mentioned before and i break (obviously lol) so, im thinking about gettin at least level 56ish before i come back to that, IMO gold hairpins til cap then platinum beastcoins until 60 cap if you are not in a rush

[Syanonn]

I went for platinum ingots right after gold hairpins.
(64) 6 Platinum Nuggets + 1 platinum ore.
as long you dont break too many, the loss shouldn't be that bad, you can get imagery to reduce break rate also.
Also synth some of the ingots into (64) sheets since it's used for some AF quests.
From my experience on pandemonium, ingots sells much faster and can sell in stacks, while the sheets sells slower and usually singles only.

[DIABEETUS]

here's some input i had:

gold chains sell FAST, but at a loss. reason being, it's 55, so 103+3 Goldsmithers HQ these for profit, by hitting the tier, bringing the prices down. stacks NEVER sell, singles only. sells really quick though!

i was cheap and sold off all my gold ingots from gold beastcoins. they were selling at a ridiculous profit. gold beastcoin market is VERY volatile though, in a span of a week i saw stacks jump 10-20k in price.

so to get my gold ingots, i camped AH for moblin mails and desynth them for gold ingots(HQ3?). not many people do this, probably because the chance of obtaining one is pretty bad, but NQ(HQ1 and HQ2 as well, i think..) desynth is brass ingotx3, which sells for a profit. hell i got so many i sold them off in stacks on a mule in bastok. moblin helms are okay too, but less efficient gil wise because NQ yields 1 brass ingot versus mails yielding 3.

i used the gold ingots to make gold chains, sell em on AH for quick profit.

be warned though this method takes a long while and you need a lot of patience, but you can actually walk away from this stage with profit. if you're in no hurry and craft casually, might as well take it slow and milk it.

[goldbaker88]

Keep the posts rocking!

[tsaroth816]

wtf damn RMT spamming our boards now not just tells

[BerenTebogo]

Gimme back your filthy fucking tits.

[Eldelphia]

How bad are people finding this right now? After the synergy updates the price of gold beastcoins/ore have shot sky high and the ingots have dropped a fair bit. I guess loads of people are needing to finish gold for synergy - that's why I'm doing it.

48 Gold right now, working on 60 asap, just seems like throwing money down the pan.

[Windfoxster]

I must have missed out something. Why do you need gold sub for synergy? I suppose it is for those equipments upgrade?

[Eldelphia]

Sorry, not being too clear. I want to make Ebon frocks, to then use in Synergy. Some of the new synths now require Gold at quite a high level and so everyone seems to be levelling it at once. I hit 50 last night, hoping for some Mog Bonanza loving to relieve the cost of the next few levels, want to finish up cloth which is stuck at 99.2 so don't want to spend huge amounts on gold. So far hasn't been too bad but the price of ingots has dropped a ton recently.

[Zouri]

desynth mythrin earrings in lower jeuno ~> mytrill sheets ~> mythril cuisses...
it takes time, but it saves you money.. the cuisses npc for ~3,600g and cost about 8k to make on average, so only losing ~5k/synth... still better than doing gold chains @ ~20k loss/synth selling at ah.