"A Crystalline Prophecy" Advance Orders Begin and Item Details Announced! (03/23/2009)

[Kriz]

WAT??!?!

I can't see how it's the new hotness for WHM WS. In my opinion, it's the new hotness for WHM TP. Give up 4% haste (of which, most of that last percent is lost by the 25% cap) for 3% dual wield, and get the Acc of a R.Mail (in a 10Acc/DW choice)

It's a nice piece for WS too, though, no doubt.

[Bingbong]

So COR question... does the QD-5 delay come off the base 1 minute, or, since I have it 5/5 and down to :50 would the -5 come off of that?

I'm thinking RAtk+10 might be more effective than the QD-5 with merits.

[jurjur]

So COR question... does the QD-5 delay come off the base 1 minute, or, since I have it 5/5 and down to :50 would the -5 come off of that?

I'm thinking RAtk+10 might be more effective than the QD-5 with merits.

wouldn't both mean 0:45 qd recast?

[Raithen]

Was thinking about Acc+10 Store TP+4 for DRG and Polearm SAM, but of course STP+4 isn't enough and SE knows this. Thanks SE.

I guess I'll get the mage one for BLM even though I don't play BLM often and would prefer the Coselete for looks.

[Aselin]

After reading everything, I'm going with Xanthe here regarding DRG and SAM bodies. I pretty much have a good body piece (Askar) for DRG and 8 polearm merits, so accuracy isn't too much of a problem for me if I have Sushi.

Dancer on the other hand, I'm 6/6 AF2 and that includes Etoile Cape. I have 4 Dagger merits already, capped Haste Samba, and Suppanomimi. I already have Raparee Harness and can get Enkidu's Harness as well. So, the Mirke body is out of the question.

My RDM and BRD already have good body pieces especially when I complete Marduk's body for BRD and work on Morrigan's after that.

That leaves my future jobs I'm leveling right now-- 62 PLD, 68 WAR, 50 SAM, 31 COR, and 42 RNG. WAR and SAM, I have both Askar and Haubergeon, so that's out. PLD I have the option of Valour Surcoat after the other main PLD's get it. And, the Sandy [s] body IF it ever gets released. Though a Fast Cast + Enmity on Neuvo looks nice, there are equivalent alternatives already in the ways of Homam and Surcoat.

So, it's between RNG and COR now. I'm thinking if someone like myself without Archery or Markmanship merits, possibly go Ranged Acc and Snapshot? Good idea? Or, eat Sushi and go Ranged Attack + Snapshot? Decisions, decisions. ><

[Meepein]

And there you have it. THF is your love and your main. Spoil it.

Actually, nowadays it's more of a 50/50 split for me with THF and SAM (somehow, people don't trust my TH anymore plus I do love SAM more than I thought I would.) I just have a hard time justifying what could be a marginal upgrade for one job over a pretty significant upgrade for another job. That RNG body is a pretty large upgrade (with full Snapshot merits it jacks V. Bow's DPS up by a ton.)

Still, I think I am leaning towards the THF version of this thing, at least at the onset. But, that Snapshot is really disgusting. If I got that, I would demand the ability to change my ToAU ring to the RNG one (max Snapshot, GO!)

[Apelila]

OP needs to be updated with pictures in english (and SE needs to stop failing on their update syntax errors)

[Isiolia]

just have to point out 10 magic acc would of been way to much. making it far better then any body in the game for blm and sch. though it sounds good. what we have now is almost if not a little better then M body as it stands. would i take 10 magic acc? lol ya.

also i do not get whats the big deal with refresh. blm get a 10k item auto refresh, rdm gets a 300k one(or if you have a end game shell free(rdm hat talking here) smn YYR, whm nobles, i just do not understand the big deal? swap it out for the other bodys when you are not doing anything lol.

It wouldn't be far better as a nuking piece, it'd be an alternate option. More accuracy, less damage. Granted, it makes for a more appealing piece than most others...but hey, why not? Morrigan's would still be the best damage piece, have Refresh, and would be able to be obtained without preventing you from having (at least at the time) some other configuration of this reward.

Real reason, most likely, is the Shadow Coat, as it's pretty meh in general, and 10 MAcc added to real stats would make it compare even worse.

Refresh is because for RDM, having the head slot open means stacking it with a Duelist's Chapeau. It's not like only one of them works. The only current options for that are a Dalmy or a Morrigan's robe. SCH has no single-slot options right now either, and BRD only has Dalmy or Marduk in that respect.
If we did wind up wanting to melee, then having the option to put ACC + Refresh on a piece might be nice too.
If you're constantly swapping in and out of a Refresh piece, it diminishes the benefit of having it. If you can have one that's viable more of the time and/or doesn't take out two slots worth of stats, then that's preferable.

Besides, if there are so many other options...then why not?

[The Blackrose]

Actually, nowadays it's more of a 50/50 split for me with THF and SAM (somehow, people don't trust my TH anymore plus I do love SAM more than I thought I would.)

That's right, you heard it here first. His TH is banzerfausted.

(and his SAM sees more time than mine, WTF?)

[Darkrift]

And read it wrong you did. Assuming you meant the melee stat.

no i meant pet >_> I should have clarified.

[Shassira]

For BST, do you have to keep the pet items on full-time or just when you call the pet?
Having to wear that stuff full-time for the pet to get the bonus would be a bummer.

You need to keep the items full time. This is a slap on BST for the nth time, if you ask me. You get a piece that enhances the much needed pet DD stats, but you are forced to gimp yourself down to enhance your pet. It's pretty pathetic how SE handles BST.

On a fight where you can and should be meleeing, assuming you aren't meleeing with your AF like I keep seeing and instead go all out, you outparse your pet by a significant amount (it's common to get 80/20). This is normaly not enough to be on par with other DDs, which is sad since there's no alternate role in a party situation as a bst. Ofcourse, this might still change with upcoming job updates, so we have to see how it all fits in.

Regardless, as of now, the pet improvements are damn sexy, the problem is it forces you to gimp yourself. So to get a correct melee piece for BST you'd probably want this:

Mirke Waldecors
Accuracy + 10
Pet: Accuracy +15

This forces you to drop Atk+10 from Haubergeon (NQ) and still keep the most important factor of the hauby. A (jug) pet, in a best situation against anything worth killing, seems to have around 80% accuracy, so this should help a lot. It doesn't gimp the master too much so it's likely to turn out better overall than a hauby, but the dilema you are placed in is stupid. It's the equivalent to make gear for "Main hand" and "Offhand" for other jobs, simply senseless.

Other pet jobs are much better set on these pieces though, so that's a step forward.

As a BST, i'm not very happy, so I guess i'll have to give it a though.

The really great news, assuming it's not stupidly hard, is that you can request this any number of times, making it great to test your own setup until you find what really suits you.
Also, I expect new pieces in the following expansions that will finish these sets.

[Xanthe]

After reading everything, I'm going with Xanthe here regarding DRG and SAM bodies. I pretty much have a good body piece (Askar) for DRG and 8 polearm merits, so accuracy isn't too much of a problem for me if I have Sushi.

Sirens going off in my head! You were on the right track until your last four words. DRG with 8 polearm merits should NEVER eat sushi.

Actually, nowadays it's more of a 50/50 split for me with THF and SAM (somehow, people don't trust my TH anymore plus I do love SAM more than I thought I would.) I just have a hard time justifying what could be a marginal upgrade for one job over a pretty significant upgrade for another job. That RNG body is a pretty large upgrade (with full Snapshot merits it jacks V. Bow's DPS up by a ton.)

Still, I think I am leaning towards the THF version of this thing, at least at the onset. But, that Snapshot is really disgusting. If I got that, I would demand the ability to change my ToAU ring to the RNG one (max Snapshot, GO!)

Well, at least we have the option of changing things up. Try them both out and see what works better.

That's right, you heard it here first. His TH is banzerfausted.

I'd ban his TH after I shelled out 14 Beaucedine AF2 to his 5(?), too.

[geno3302]

The real question for SMN is, will Double attack proc on BPs and will the extra damage out weigh ATT+15 if you only pick 1 of them

[grantlogan]

I don't know if I will get Waldecors for my THF, COR or RNG since the options available are awesome. My question is, with the dual wield -3 & acc +10 choices, does that really make it better than Homam body? If so, that may help my decision.

[Sanjiyan]

I still think there should be a haste option. I mean, that wouldn't be broken, would it?

[Kilhart]

So COR question... does the QD-5 delay come off the base 1 minute, or, since I have it 5/5 and down to :50 would the -5 come off of that?

I'm thinking RAtk+10 might be more effective than the QD-5 with merits.

Uh...

Unmerited = 60-5 = 55 second recast.

Fully merited = 50-5 = 45 second recast.

The QD augment is one of the strongest augments - if not THE strongest - in this batch.

[The Blackrose]

I'd ban his TH after I shelled out 14 Beaucedine AF2 to his 5(?), too.

Ruh roh, none of that here. Next thing you'll know we'll have tanks barging in with a dickwaving contest and we'll never hear the end of it.

(and actually, his TH works well when it decides to work)

[Xanthe]

(and actually, his TH works well when it decides to work)

That's how it usually goes. My first TH performance was a spectacular Orichalcum Ingot and Wind Crystal from Kirin.

[Talint]

Dancer on the other hand, I'm 6/6 AF2 and that includes Etoile Cape. I have 4 Dagger merits already, capped Haste Samba, and Suppanomimi. I already have Raparee Harness and can get Enkidu's Harness as well. So, the Mirke body is out of the question.

You're not going to get a better body piece though that will also increase your dual wielding and have accuracy on it on DNC at the same time, though.

If I had a ranged job though, I'd probably get it over a DNC body piece.

[Meepein]

(and actually, his TH works well when it decides to work)

Yeah, in Nyzul and getting Grhah M Chips. I think my TH has decided to go on an extended vacation. It will come back one day, hopefully soon.

And, why does my SAM see more use than yours? Simple answer, I'm an asshole who never wants to level a mage job. That, and people want drops, so they have other people come THF.