"A Crystalline Prophecy" Advance Orders Begin and Item Details Announced! (03/23/2009)

[Kilhart]

I'm not comfortable in writing off what amounts to the best WS piece so quickly - the QD increase might be a larger %, but for the most part COR will be weaponskilling more often than QD'ing. Not an easy choice :/

Obviously, it depends on what you do more often, but almost all CORs that have full QD builds do HNMs, solo NMs, or both. Personally, those two categories of events comprise the majority of what I've been doing ingame for the past 6 months, so it's a no-brainer for me and any COR main who's in a HNMLS and/or solos a lot. Even if you merit more often than HNM/solo, the improvement by choosing the QD augments is FAR greater than that of you choosing the WS augments - so much that I would still do the QD augments, regardless.

To put this into a better perspective: if you had a maxed QD build (minus Death Penalty, of course), replacing Denali with a QD augmented Mirke Waldecors would essentially allow you to outparse almost every BLM out there on flying wyrms on /RDM, which is kind of a big deal for a support job's secondary role.

[Hank]

I know, I only use the Haste gear for pre-cast. I put 2 merits into Cure Cast after seeing the tier testing which indicated how much more effort I'd have to do in order for additional Cure Cast time to go down.

Like I said, in my mind, it's gilding the lily, there are so many other factors that can make your fractional cast times worthless. Most of all, "Unable to cast spells at this time."

You're saying the Fast Cast is barely anything to notice yet you're a stickler for making sure to equip Haste gear. If you're going to be OCD you have to do it all the way. Start in 5% Fast Cast and end in Goliard, Manteel, w/e. Same recast timers, faster.

[Demosthenes11]

fuck this doesnt even help my rdm or blm at all...like, not one of those stats is an improvement on gear i have

what to do -.-

[shaddix]

By the way that cure cast testing isn't exactly right, it's only the animation that is tiered, the hp being recovered server-side is NOT tiered. so full cure cast merits + clogs + light arts gives you the full benefit.

Edit, though sadly, the recast appears to be tied to the animation, so you might not actually be able to pump out more cures in less time, just save someone from near death more quickly. But it is hard to test if the recast timer we see on game is exactly tied to the one server side also. Needs more testing

[drewbixcube]

Obviously, it depends on what you do more often, but almost all CORs that have full QD builds do HNMs, solo NMs, or both. Personally, those two categories of events comprise the majority of what I've been doing ingame for the past 6 months, so it's a no-brainer for me and any COR main who's in a HNMLS and/or solos a lot. Even if you merit more often than HNM/solo, the improvement by choosing the QD augments is FAR greater than that of you choosing the WS augments - so much that I would still do the QD augments, regardless.

To put this into a better perspective: if you had a maxed QD build (minus Death Penalty, of course), replacing Denali with a QD augmented Mirke Waldecors would essentially allow you to outparse almost every BLM out there on flying wyrms on /RDM, which is kind of a big deal for a support job's secondary role.

i hate to +1 but i love your signature so much

[Araelus]

I know, I only use the Haste gear for pre-cast. I put 2 merits into Cure Cast after seeing the tier testing which indicated how much more effort I'd have to do in order for additional Cure Cast time to go down.

Like I said, in my mind, it's gilding the lily, there are so many other factors that can make your fractional cast times worthless. Most of all, "Unable to cast spells at this time."

I don't think Haste+% at the start of your casting will have any effect.

[Max™]

If only it was more than +4MAB/MACC... I think +4 is too small, same for the DA and crit;z. For the samurai side of it, you'd only come up with an askar-1 with the augment combos (I think 2 less atk, 1 less STP?)

Sam could make an Askar that didn't suck. Str/Dex 5, Acc 10, STP 4.

[Aikar]

Jobs like Brd, Whm and Dnc got kinda screwed over but fuck that shit the COR body piece is the new Denali Jacket.

Id say WHM gets it nice - if your not an NQ whm

Macro in body for all spells precast and a really nice WS peice since rev mail has -MND

Ill be getting 5% FC and Atk+10 making it a really nice WS piece and a fast cast piece for both my jobs.
Already have Genie Weskit which is better than this in terms of damage so meh.

Because Goliard Saio rains from the sky, and I can hit Haste cap with it, and that's pretty much good enough. 12M to add a bit of fast-cast to that? Sorry. No need to waste this once-in-a-lifetime do-it-yourself bodypiece on that.

I hope your joking.

[Headache]

After looking at the body here available to WHM and the possible add-on stats... I'm left with a 'lolwut' at best.

1) No refresh: Noble's, Dalmatica, WHM relic body, hell, Vermy Cloak win
2) No cure potency: Noble's wins.
3) I have to pay you MORE money to get a new piece of gear that my already bought Noble's will beat? I don't freakin think so.

This Royal Redingote, even tweaked how I'd want it would not help me: tank, DD for mp with Mystic(if I could get it, stupid Kujata), or replace anything I already have. Though with acc+10 and eva+10 this clearly beats Reverend Mail.

I WANT to play WHM, I WANT to like it. But the options available to me and the difficulty to get them depress the hell out of me.

[Aikar]

This Royal Redingote, even tweaked how I'd want it would not help me: tank, DD for mp with Mystic

uh? what? look over stuff again man.

Atk+10 and MND+5 makes this the best body FOR Mystic Boon


Add on Acc and your smoking rev mail.

Sacrifice the acc for FC5% like im doing and hey, cast utsu faster with less recast!

As i said above, if your an NQ whm who just tosses out cures and cares nothing about effeciency and timing and doesnt have fun meleeing, then yeah its useless.
gogo 210 HP cure's!

[Shinta]

uh? what? look over stuff again man.

Atk+10 and MND+5 makes this the best body FOR Mystic Boon


Add on Acc and your smoking rev mail.

Sacrifice the acc for FC5% like im doing and hey, cast utsu faster with less recast!

As i said above, if your an NQ whm who just tosses out cures and cares nothing about effeciency and timing and doesnt have fun meleeing, then yeah its useless.
gogo 210 HP cure's!

Gotta love that old argument, either you agree with me or you're a shitty player. Awesome.

I was under the impression that MND effected Mystic Boon quite a bit. Which is better? MND+12, or MND+5/Acc+10/Atk+10?

[shaddix]

Gotta love that old argument, either you agree with me or you're a shitty player. Awesome.

I was under the impression that MND effected Mystic Boon quite a bit. Which is better? MND+12, or MND+5/Acc+10/Atk+10?

I don't know about the mystic boon crap but, would you rather cast all your spells with 5% fastcast or with no fastcast at all? If you answer you would like to cast with 5% fastcast, then this augmenting system provides that! No you don't lose refresh, no you don't lose cure potency, no you don't lose regen potency. You lose nothing and gain 5% fastcast, there's NO downside here, you only have to wear it at the very start of your cast, then swap back in your nobles or refresh or what have you.

[Clave]

Gotta love that old argument, either you agree with me or you're a shitty player. Awesome.

I was under the impression that MND effected Mystic Boon quite a bit. Which is better? MND+12, or MND+5/Acc+10/Atk+10?

MND+5/Acc+10/Atk+10 hands down for Mystic Boon, Randgrith and Hexa Strike.

Marduk would only be better on stuff you have absurdly high attack on, and realistically that won't happen on WHM unless you are farming lower lvl mobs or something.

[Apelila]

I know, I only use the Haste gear for pre-cast. I put 2 merits into Cure Cast after seeing the tier testing which indicated how much more effort I'd have to do in order for additional Cure Cast time to go down.

There's a thread for that somewhere? Rink Prease.

[shaddix]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/57646...5-13-08-a.html

Please remember the tiers only apply to the animation, not when HP is healed server side. So don't go off thinking that extra cure cast merits will have no effect.

[ringthree]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/57646...5-13-08-a.html

Please remember the tiers only apply to the animation, not when HP is healed server side. So don't go off thinking that extra cure cast merits will have no effect.

So that testing was basically useless?

There appear to be other issues with that testing like it was not consistent at all and didn't have very many tests per condition at all. It really is nothing compared to the haste testing that has been done.

[Fridell]

Hrm.
The mage body offers me nothing really, same with the WAR DRK SAM one ; ;
I think Ima do the MNK NIN one with ACC+10 & DQ to beef up my Ninja, totally.
Would be a nice upgrade!

[seiji]

sam Acc+10 DA+2% VS nq hauby? (brutal/grip and mostly /war, no HNM)

[Izzy]

"Acc+10/Atk+10/MND+5" vs "Acc+10/MND-5"

You decide...it shouldn't take you more than 2 seconds.

I'm Izzy, and I approve this WHM/NIN message.

[Turbotwo]

Having just SAM and BRD 75 fucking sucks with this. I just can't think of what to do, I'll have BLM 75 soon @63 now. Ugh, I like the look of nuevo and SAM is the job I care most about but I have Askar, NQ hauby :\, Yigit for BRD...I feel like the Royal Redingnote is the most viable option I just don't fcking know...