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  1. #141
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!

    MAB and AGI on a COR Piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mirke FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    There's no debate really. If 6-hit is broken the Store TP +4 is moot.

    I'm not too worried about breaking a true 6-hit on DRG because you only need to connect 2hits on your WS to keep your 6hit going.

  3. #143
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    Referring to the breaking 6 hit build with this body on drg. With V.Fork you gonna have +7 all together, which gives you a true 6 hit build. Only works with V.Fork tho, that's why i said this is match made in heaven with it. Without it, yea, you will need either askar or aurum's for true 6 hit.

  4. #144
    Relic Horn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    I'm not too worried about breaking a true 6-hit on DRG because you only need to connect 2hits on your WS to keep your 6hit going.
    Wheeling Thrust is situationally better, etc.

  5. #145
    Dragoon Princess
    My Little Ixion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbotwo View Post
    SAM piece reccomendations prz
    Don't get it for sam... Askar or hauby are on par with it. It would be a waste of a 1 time item.

    It's like a Usu body-1 if you do acc+10 stp +4

  6. #146
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    Better than I thought they'd be, but still not great aside from making a fast cast + enmity tanking piece, or maybe something specifically for rng/cor/smn. For the most part the stuff you can make is on par with cheap nq craftables, but worse than hq.

    If these are the same augments you can apply to other gear thou, than it would be amazing.

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    If he means relic then he needs a true 6 hit build cuz the WS is one hit. Tho I can't think of a reason to have to use the relic WS. Wheeling thrust yes.

  8. #148
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    Nuevo Coselette seems like a PLD/DRG piece, but Im not mad <3 pimping my pld moar!

  9. #149
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    Enmity+5, Fast Cast +5%. My Valor Surcoat is officially reduced to a Cover macro piece. All that time in Dynamis...


    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOD
    DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAMN
    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT !




    Edit: Not sure what all the confusion is about for Fast Cast. For X amount of Fast Cast, you get a spell recast reduction of X/2. So, with the 5% Fast Cast on the body, you get a 2.5% reduction in recast timers. It's like having a haste+2.5% body for everything but swinging (assuming they don't make this Fast Cast effect special and different than every other item in the game). Makes getting to the recast limit of -50% even easier now, plus a shield on my shoulder. I will name it 'Polly' and feed it Garlic Crackers.

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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! !!!!!!!

    MAB and AGI on a COR Piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mirke FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    MAB+QD-5
    noob

  11. #151
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    Anthony check my above post, what do you think?

  12. #152
    Falcom is better than SE. Change my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    MAB+QD-5
    noob
    That to, but it also as AGI on it as a base stat. So I'm not wrong >_>

  13. #153
    New Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    MAB+QD-5
    noob
    Take a look at the stats again ;D

  14. #154
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    /comfort

    It (Valor) has higher Defense and a pretty model!


    Seriously though, am I wrong in thinking Enm +5/Fast Cast +5 is the Suppa/Ethereal/Rajas of this set?

  15. #155
    A. Body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unstable View Post
    PLD - Ares's body
    DRK - Ares Body
    DRG/Mage - Ares Body
    WHM - Nobles
    RDM - Dalmy
    BRD - Dalmy
    SMN - YYR
    SCH - Ixion
    BLU - Morrigans

    What other jobs use mp really and some jobs have 1-6 Refresh bodies (Nobles / Dalmy / Verm / Ixion / af2 / Salvage)

    Unless you want a NIN/DRK with refresh >_>
    It's more that Auto-Refresh on a not-cloak being a somewhat rare item to get for many players. For those who have no problem snagging a Dalmy or Ares body or whatnot, great, they can put something together for another job. For those of us who have little prospect of getting one of those anytime soon, Refresh would have been a very welcome option.

  16. #156
    Lostbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph View Post
    Enmity+5, Fast Cast +5%. My Valor Surcoat is officially reduced to a Cover macro piece. All that time in Dynamis...


    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOD
    DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAMN
    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT !

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    Don't say that, my shell was so excited we got three on Saturday!

  17. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyan View Post
    Take a look at the stats again ;D
    Take a look at your face again

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    /comfort

    It (Valor) has higher Defense and a pretty model!


    Seriously though, am I wrong in thinking Enm +5/Fast Cast +5 is the Suppa/Ethereal/Rajas of this set?
    Assuming you play PLD, you are correct. (Except for Rajas. Shame on you.) However, I think there are at least a few flavors of Ethereal Earring in this set, depending on what jobs you play. PLD, NIN, SMN, RNG, COR, and PUP definitely have some good shit rocking in here. Possibly a few other jobs too depending on how you play. I can't see anything really badass here for RDM or BLU, so I'm almost definitely gonna be getting a new PLD body.

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    Why would you say "Shame on you" for Rajas?
    That ring does wonders for two-handers.

  20. #160
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    He means that I dropped my Rajas for the slutty whore some call Sattva.
    Note that I didn't list Sattva in the Suppa/Ethereal group, as I recognize that Rajas is a larger benefit because it (like the Fast Cast for certain jobs, and 5 Enm for others) offers a unique option: Dual Wield + on the ear/all jobs, Dmg > MP (still only on Ethereal), Store TP +5 on a ring/all jobs.

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