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  1. #2041
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    fuck these people that cannot complete FORGE OF SOULS. It has TWO bosses. It takes TEN minutes. and people still fucking leave after the first boss and before the second, leaving me saved to an instance that i REALLY want to finish (because i STILL need my fucking N-ES) without ever even fucking fighting the boss that drops it.

    FUCK YOU INCOMPETENT PEOPLE

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    why queue if you don't want to run instances? doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korietsu View Post
    Play FFXI.
    Yeah because standing around for 3 hours is sooo hard!!

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    Kill the trash in Frozen Halls instances. I only queue for these things to try for a Battered Hilt (now that Arcane Loops of Anger finally dropped). I'm not getting myself saved to Pit of Saron if you make a point of skipping all but three or four mobs on your way to Garfrost.

    Seriously, I know with useless instances in like Old Kingdom or Utgarde Keep that skipping trash is optimal, but why must people run like their hair is on fire from the chance at either a fairly good weapon or a huge chunk of gold? Yeah, it's a gamble, but kill the trash that's worth killing, even just some of it. This is especially true in Pit of Saron 'cause someone always dies in the tunnel and it's a royal pain to dodge patrols on your run back.

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    The LFD gear checker thing. I've just decided to respec my DK to tank. I'm in 5k GS dps gear and until I farm a bunch of emblems I'm basically in dps gear with tank offpieces. I cannot tank new ICC heroics (PoS and HoR for sure, I might be ok in Forge) but they keep throwing me into HoR. I can't tank that place. I can tank almost all the heroics, but not that one. I wish you could state you're not geared for a certain place yourself instead of Blizzard doing an auto-check for you.

    Oh and fuck farming for Battered Hilts. I did that place, full trash clears on a daily basis for 2-3 weeks with a friend, every single day we'd go in, he ran so many heroics he often tanked the place twice a day. Total we've seen a single Hilt drop. Sorry, I quit FFXI for a reason, I'm not farming for a shitty drop rate. Also, the trash sucks. Big skeletons have lots of health, blind people and stun people. Big casters have lots of health. The pack of mobs can nuke you down hard. Stacking up multiple groups gets you killed (big caster gives a 10% extra shadow damage per tick channel move + S bolts, a caster in the small group stacks up +50% shadow damage taken and can stack at least twice on someone for +100%, and then your healer gets CC'd while your tank takes 40k shadow bolts). Yeah, fuck farming that trash.

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    I've been duo farming it as a tank+healer, it's pretty easy and some pulls I can go fury for. Never had any problems except when healer fell through the map.

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    Like I said, I'm not asking for them to kill everything, but when you're stopping just shy of terrain exploits and you can almost guarantee that someone is going to eat it during that stupid tunnel (what happened to players? I did that tunnel fine when it was first released), it is not half as troublesome as people make it seem to kill one or two more mobs.

    Meantime, unless Pit of Saron shows up as my Frost Emblem of the day, I'll drop if people are going to try to avoid things. I've had to explain at length why you cannot let the horror things near Krick and Ick stay alive and why trying to beat the spawn timer on the shit outside the tunnel is bad news. Basically, this is a combination of both my desire to see a Hilt drop EVER (fuck you, Blizzard, the drop rate is not acceptable) and the fact that random LFD groups are rarely prepared to pull off the tactics that some shit-eating little Death Knight insists are "better."

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    Yeah, Saron can be pretty bad on some crappy groups that don't interupt hellfires or move out of ice circles. It's usually the trash between Ick and the fight against the last boss that end shitty parties.

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    That trash isn't even all that dangerous. The main problem is that folks have forgotten their CC buttons. Or that most of the mobs in the new heroics are disarmable/stunnable. The new 'AOE everything' habits learned in Naxx10/25 and most old heroics has created a generation of facerollers bad at their class. It's like when the old Blackrock instances could be 10-manned. Too much of a cushion/margin of error and people get complacent.

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    If you want to farm Battered Hilts, go with friends/people from guild, don't disrupt my badge farming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    That trash isn't even all that dangerous. The main problem is that folks have forgotten their CC buttons. Or that most of the mobs in the new heroics are disarmable/stunnable. The new 'AOE everything' habits learned in Naxx10/25 and most old heroics has created a generation of facerollers bad at their class. It's like when the old Blackrock instances could be 10-manned. Too much of a cushion/margin of error and people get complacent.
    I absolutely never have problems on any of those pulls when I'm tanking.


    99.9999999% of the time it's a horrible ugly mess of failure when I'm in there on mage in randoms.


    Annoying as fuck lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    I absolutely never have problems on any of those pulls when I'm tanking.


    99.9999999% of the time it's a horrible ugly mess of failure when I'm in there on mage in randoms.


    Annoying as fuck lol.

    I can't say I don't agree. On my tank I get slaughtered, and on my mage I get pounded because the tank sucks and I end up soloing two mobs. Wtb poly for undead!

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    Why would you want Polymorph? I try to Shackle that shit and some idiot drops Death and Decay under them or decides to use Starfall or just runs over and hits the damned thing. I've given up.

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    You can polymorph the female casters in the first two packs, which seem to be the only real ones causing trouble. You can silence/AOE the skeleton packs and the tunnel is just a dash to the revenant halfway, AoE, dash to the exit, AoE festival.

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    The trash isn't dangerous unless you try to pull it like 3.0 heroics with multiple groups at a time. They stack to make each other stupidly dangerous so you can't do that. But my friend still attempts it...

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    http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/323/sarth.jpg


    Gdi (I'm kailiel). Well, i guess no one care about it anymore, but I hate losing

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    Q. Will Cataclysm bring the return of special-proc items such as The Unstoppable Force?
    A. One of the fun aspects of looking at those old zones are the chances to try and hit up all the nostalgia for things like that. So, yes.

    Yay, Cata will have 75% rehased and reskinned items. Can't wait to get Tier 1 and 2 Versions 2.0.

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    Did I miss something? What's so special about a mace with a Stun proc that contributes to diminishing returns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul View Post
    Did I miss something? What's so special about a mace with a Stun proc that contributes to diminishing returns?

    Were you around in S1/S2/S3 for Mace-Stun ftw? This also means there's going to be tons of poorly itemized and retarded items come cata.

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    I had The Unstoppable Force and Mace Spec on my Arms Warrior back in vanilla. It was a lot like Sword Spec back then: sometimes it'd proc in just the perfect way to lock people down, but usually it would proc at the worst possible times or in the least effectual way. With a mere 2 second Stun on the Force, it meant that diminishing returns kicked in FAST between Charge/Intercept, Mace Spec, and its proc. Maybe it worked well in Arenas, but I was always a little less than impressed.

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