Random Complaint Thread

[fantasticdan]

You only need a single priest or shaman (edit: or mage duh) to dispel for jaraxxus, and I wouldn't be surprised if you could get away with not dispelling it at all. For faction champs you can do the strat where you get them to focus a tank by keeping them at low health while spamming demo shout or whatever if that still works.

[Plow]

The thing that would get in the way of 5 manning toc is anub's add. He's the only one with an enrage timer that would matter, too, so it would be hard to do it by sacrificing another dps.

[brisk]

The arachnophobia in me comes to life in the form of the trash gauntlet before Sindragosa.

[fantasticdan]

The thing that would get in the way of 5 manning toc is anub's add. He's the only one with an enrage timer that would matter, too, so it would be hard to do it by sacrificing another dps.

If you have a war/pally tank or ret pally it's not difficult to solo tank the encounter, since you can keep the adds stunned for most/all of the time until they are bursted down, and just bubble the debuff off if you get a couple stacks for some reason. I've done it way back on my paladin in mostly 232 stuff. Bad timing on freezing slash would probably kill you if you're relying on the tank for stuns thou.

[Plow]

Not difficult with 2 or 3 healers... with 1 healer tho, during swarm... would be rough. You might be able to get it done with a pally healer spamming himself for splash but... then you've got 2 guys sitting at full through the whole swarm on top of the other disadvantages and rage timer already.

[Tricen]

I love my battlegroup. Apparently I am a baddie for pulling threat in a heroic against a paladin tank. We also had a hunter. I also have talents that specifically reduce my threat output. Man. I'm such a bad player.

[Kaylia]

I love my battlegroup. Apparently I am a baddie for pulling threat in a heroic against a paladin tank. We also had a hunter. I also have talents that specifically reduce my threat output. Man. I'm such a bad player.

I often see people dps'ing monster outside my AoE. If the tank is pulling non stop (2 pulls at time), it's common where you will find yourself without ressource to keep good threat on every mobs of the pulls.
I never complained once about dps pulling threat...it's bound to happen in certains situation, but if one ever complain about "pulling aggro", I'm going to punch him in the face, the dps often have something to do with it.

Now, if a dps pull threat on a boss or something, this is kinda sad.

[Eaglestrike]

I often see people dps'ing monster outside my AoE. If the tank is pulling non stop (2 pulls at time), it's common where you will find yourself without ressource to keep good threat on every mobs of the pulls.
I never complained once about dps pulling threat...it's bound to happen in certains situation, but if one ever complain about "pulling aggro", I'm going to punch him in the face, the dps often have something to do with it.

Now, if a dps pull threat on a boss or something, this is kinda sad.

Yeah, it really requires more information to determine if the tank or the dps is "in the wrong" whenever someone pulls threat. If you're a high dps class single target dpsing a target the paladin isn't targetting you are likely to pull threat. HotR and consecration are good threat, but they can't outthreat everything. Especially if the other dps are bad and not dpsing that target. Generally by the time someone can outthreat HotR/Consecration a target should already be dead. If the tank is moving along and pulling a bunch of mobs at once and you're dpsing them as he is moving you are most likely going to pull threat and if you can't keep yourself alive between then and them dying it's the dps in the wrong there. Let the tank pull.

Back in BC you needed to make sure you were assisting the tank and focusing a certain target at a time, people seem to have completely forgotten that in this expansion.

[Tricen]

On a boss. Trash doesn't stay alive long enough for them to kill me lol. It was H VH too.

[Plow]

On a boss. Trash doesn't stay alive long enough for them to kill me lol. It was H VH too.

I'm embarrassed that I play the same game as that person.

[Tricen]

Yeah, but I'm the baddie. LULLULUL

[Onorgul]

I've had a few people make boss fights a real pain for me. The sort who are pushing 6k GS (that is, wearing a lot of 264 gear) and who never learned fucking restraint, so they blow all cooldowns within 1 second of my Charge. In Heroic Forge of Souls today, the shithead Death Knight decided that stopping his DPS during Mirrored Soul onto the healer was for chumps. Should've booted his ass when I watched him completely ignore Corrupt Soul on Bronjahm.

[Correction]

Had this thing bust out 1.7k dps on 3 Toravon wipes tonight. When called on it his excuse was 'fuck you guy I was hacked.'

[Siniroth]

Why was he even allowed in the raid my god, as for the tanks and threat issue, I love being a rogue, I'm allowed to pop all my cooldowns, I have this funny thing called Tricks of the Trade

In other news, I hate when tanks vigi me as a rogue, I have tricks of the trade, you don't need threat off me, take it from the warlock who's always pulling off you or something (in heroics of course, in raids people are usually smarter <_<)

[Correction]

Why was he even allowed in the raid my god, as for the tanks and threat issue, I love being a rogue, I'm allowed to pop all my cooldowns, I have this funny thing called Tricks of the Trade

Apparently he was a friend of the raid leader's. After the 3rd wipe of course, everyone stopped caring whose friend he was and we shattered the raid.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2z6t9xy.jpg

It's difficult to lay all the blame at his feet considering the average performance of the remainder of the dps but really when the difference is between me doing 1.6 million damage and you not managing 300k, you gotta reconsider the order in which you get your gear.

[Siniroth]

Dude it's like a copy of my recount datas whenever I attempt on my rogue, I'm always top with 6.5-7.5k dps, and then a pretty little curve showing how people fail

[Tricen]

DPS kinda seems low overall O_o. Is that one of those slow pug progression servers?

[Correction]

DPS kinda seems low overall O_o. Is that one of those slow pug progression servers?

It's Kilrogg lol

It's just that people aren't yet used to properly gearchecking for VoA25. It was okay to carry that bad dps on Emalon/Koralon but Toravon's raid damage just gets overwhelming if you take more than 5 minutes to kill him. Raid was full of scrubs to be sure.

[Gulkeeva]

oh my god... lich king is insane.. wtb nerf
whatever dev said that is doable with all 10man gear is crazy, the dps/healing/mana draining fight is just /holyshit especially phase 3 ;/

[Eaglestrike]

oh my god... lich king is insane.. wtb nerf
whatever dev said that is doable with all 10man gear is crazy, the dps/healing/mana draining fight is just /holyshit especially phase 3 ;/

I'm pretty sure the actual Blue quote was "Those guys aren't beating the 10-man Lich King encounter because of their 25-man gear." which translates to "Those guys has skills."