Random Complaint Thread

[Onorgul]

What I usually find to be the problem, Kaylia, is that it takes an hour or more sometimes to assemble a group (even a 10 man) for ICC because there's incentive to be picky if you want to get anything done. After you've stared at a wall in Dalaran for an hour because you can't go out and work on dailies or something while in a raid group, it gets harder and harder to stick with it. This is doubly true when someone decides they're going to start a group at 10 PM and people realize, "Oh, shit, it's 1 AM and I have work/school/whatever in the morning." It's not really malice or even sloth, it's just poor planning, or such has been my experience.

[Kaylia]

I'm rarely accusing people of malice in mmo, not after 2 hours at least, but it's kinda annoying that you can't easily replace people in a group like this. One people leaving often kill the group, so the odd it happen in 10 man is high, and even higher in 25man.

I wish blizzard would figure out a system to bypass people who leave raid and allow the pug to continue. I'm not quite sure how since I can see abuse in most method I'm thinking, but I'm sure there would be something to do.

[Eaglestrike]

Get asked to dps VoA10 on my priest. I'm MS Disc, 2pc t10 already, close to getting my 3rd piece, shadow set is 4pc 232 t9 and just disc offpieces and whatever else I've been able to get (disc is SP/crit, shadow is SP/haste for stat priority) Well healing gloves drop, holy priest and I roll, tie, I win tiebreaker, but then priest bitches that they're healing so they should get them, even if heals is my MS. And even though loot priority was NOT stated in the run they give to them.

What's really shitty about this is I made my priest the crafted 264 legs, so to get my 4pc bonus I need the hands and ONLY the hands, so VoA is automatically dropped to half the loot I can get from it.

[Onorgul]

I'm getting really tired of jousting at the Argent Tournament. I know that I don't actually need to do it, but I'm working on collecting my last couple mounts from up there and between general server lag, the hitbox problem, and heaven only knows what else, some days I can manage to plow through the four Champions without losing more than around 10k health and other times I have to use my heal after EVERY joust.

[Kaylia]

I'm getting really tired of jousting at the Argent Tournament. I know that I don't actually need to do it, but I'm working on collecting my last couple mounts from up there and between general server lag, the hitbox problem, and heaven only knows what else, some days I can manage to plow through the four Champions without losing more than around 10k health and other times I have to use my heal after EVERY joust.

Some champion are harder to beat than other. The fucking gnome is always giving me trouble, while the bigger one are usually easier, or at least, it feel this way.


But I agree, fuck jousting. I still need 450 badge from it, and I have hard time convincing myself to do it. I often end up skipping this quest completely.

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Is there a good list of every obtainable mount somewhere? I'm at 86/100, with 4 more from argent tournament possible, but I have no idea which one I should go for. I solo karazhan every weeks, and magister terrace, and I'm going to get the bike soon, but for the rest, I have no clue where to go for "easy" mount.

[Plow]

I'm getting really tired of jousting at the Argent Tournament. I know that I don't actually need to do it, but I'm working on collecting my last couple mounts from up there and between general server lag, the hitbox problem, and heaven only knows what else, some days I can manage to plow through the four Champions without losing more than around 10k health and other times I have to use my heal after EVERY joust.

bring a friend

start the joust, have them dps just standing there

ezpz

just gotta make sure you keep hate or they'll get rocked heh

@kaylia : http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=-5

aq-only mounts count too, if you didn't know

you pretty much have to get a couple rare ones to reach 100 tho

[Kaylia]

Yeah, missing the red one, but that's it. I had 0 luck with event mount, and the one dropped in instance. I guess last few mount will be a pain. 4argent dawn, 4 pvp, 2 more, 3 more from northrend vendor...I will figure something from the last 5.

About the list, it's the one I'm used, but since they aren't ordered in faction or category (drop, achievement, bought), it's kinda a pain to use and figure the one you should go after.

[Plow]

You have GotUR one(s)?

Glad mounts help...

Expensive mammoth...

VoA mount you can usually buy off the winner for like 2-3k these days if you're lucky enough to see it drop.

Hard to say without looking at your list heh.

[rithridan]

Damnit! I finally see a Battered Hilt drop and ofcourse I roll a 2 on it... Then afterwards to add even more salt on the wound I see Shriveled Heart drop (the last thing I need from heroics on my mage) and I roll a fucking 6 on it and lose it to a gimp ass shadow priest. Fuck this crap, anything good that ever drops and I actually have someone else I roll against I get retarded rolls and most of the time they even go to retarded players who don't know what the fuck they are doing anyway.

This is the exact same on my prot/ret pala, I walk around in a stupid polearm from Blood Council because every single 251 2h Sword or Axe I either lose or have to pass. For example a DK with Citadel Enforcer gets Saurfangs 2H Axe over me just because hes mainspec dps and I know if even opened my mouth in protest I woulda gotten a ton of abuse. Then not long ago a Fury Warrior with Bryntroll + Citadel Enforcer gets Saurfangs 2H Axe aswell since yet again hes mainspec dps. In the meantime I've lost 2 fucking tank maces because I had 1 other person to roll against.

[Onorgul]

bring a friend

start the joust, have them dps just standing there

ezpz

just gotta make sure you keep hate or they'll get rocked heh

It's not that I find jousting hard, it's that I find it obnoxious. Some days, the riders will actually be where they appear on my screen, other days they seem to no longer have cooldowns on their abilities and can pretty much warp from directly beside me to far enough away to Charge and then stand behind me to somehow throw a Shield Breaker. I still beat them, it's not an issue, but there's just way too much nonsense involved and it often feels out of my control. By contrast, the bombing runs were a good example of how vehicle mechanics can be fairly varied and interesting without being cumbersome and obnoxious.

[Kaylia]

You have GotUR one(s)?

Glad mounts help...

Expensive mammoth...

VoA mount you can usually buy off the winner for like 2-3k these days if you're lucky enough to see it drop.

Hard to say without looking at your list heh.

GotUR? I cant figure out what the accronym mean >_>


I have the expansive mammoth (well, missing the 8k one, but it was included in the buyable one). VoA...I guess I could do that if I ever see them drop.

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Never for the Glory of...

I don't have them, and I don't think its doable in a pug. I only have the glory of the hero one.

[Plow]

you can get most of uld 10 achieves in a pug now, you may have to buy yogg+1 and firefighter but just those 2 shouldn't be too expensive, especially if you manage to snag the instance with all but them cleared

I guess freya's prob hard to pug too.

[Kaylia]

Well, I never got past the first 3 boss myself. Even if it's puggable, I would at least need to know the encounter before.

[Plow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ1gxZZSRtI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Wvusf8Nfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jee971qfSMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnrSVREmmWQ


There's the meaningful ones. Might want to check out tankspot auriya vid as well, if you do decide to try for it.

I'd recommend it, right now if you can find competent people to do it with, with toc/icc gear it's probably the easiest "rare" mount in the game.

[Cephius]

It's not that I find jousting hard, it's that I find it obnoxious. Some days, the riders will actually be where they appear on my screen, other days they seem to no longer have cooldowns on their abilities and can pretty much warp from directly beside me to far enough away to Charge and then stand behind me to somehow throw a Shield Breaker. I still beat them, it's not an issue, but there's just way too much nonsense involved and it often feels out of my control. By contrast, the bombing runs were a good example of how vehicle mechanics can be fairly varied and interesting without being cumbersome and obnoxious.

I read about easymode jousting and it worked well for me. After your first charge, stay close and melee repeatedly. Eventually your opponent will turn and run, either quick shield break+charge or just charge if your latency is shit. Rinse and repeat. I never lost more than a few thousand health, they'll never get a chance to shield break or charge you.

[Norellicus]

The easymode is reliable but oh god is it slow. If you're any good you can kill all 4 champions in the time it takes to easymode 1-2 of them.

[Correction]

Is there a good list of every obtainable mount somewhere? I'm at 86/100, with 4 more from argent tournament possible, but I have no idea which one I should go for. I solo karazhan every weeks, and magister terrace, and I'm going to get the bike soon, but for the rest, I have no clue where to go for "easy" mount.

If you don't already have loot card mounts, buy them before the prices really start to skyrocket (tcg production is being discontinued)

[Gulkeeva]

There are no horde druids that exist that can move+ heal at the same time (unless its an ally transfer!)

[Tricen]

Aren't druid heals mostly instant cast?

[Norellicus]

Pretty sure that was a riff on the general intelligence of the druid population of gulk's server.

It's funny because every tree druid I know basically runs around in circles (unless there's mechanics that demand maintaining distance, in which case they jump) and only stop for a spell with a cast time.