Random Complaint Thread

[Russta]

The rewards are better so it should be.

I'm sorry but I'm just not seeing the challenge. One tank handles Emalon, straight up tanking, nothing fancy. One tank holds the adds slightly off to the side, grabbing a new one when it spawns, again not hard with 30yd taunts. The melee DPS until they see him casting his lightning charge thing then run out until it finishes casting, at which point they run back in, the exact same tactic employed for Loken. All the casters have to do is stay slightly spread out so Chain Lightning, an ability anyone PvPing for more than a day should be familiar with, doesn't, you know, chain. When one of the adds goes original Xbox huge, everyone kills it.

Yeah, I'm a seasoned raider but even so, this is children's stuff.

[Blackice]

The only thing remotely hard for emalon was nerfed like a week after it came out, and that was how fast the stacks were created which made it so you actually needed quick target switching and good DPS. Now it's a joke and can be pugged just like Archavon was prior.

[aurik]

They nerfed a lot of things on Emalon:

- The adds had more HP and grew slowly when buffed instead of instantly popping to HUEG status.
- Emalon could and would cast CL while a minion was being burned, which meant if he targeted someone in the minion clump half your raid got fried
- They capped the number of jumps the CL makes

[Norellicus]

They nerfed a lot of things on Emalon:

- The adds had more HP and grew slowly when buffed instead of instantly popping to HUEG status.
- Emalon could and would cast CL while a minion was being burned, which meant if he targeted someone in the minion clump half your raid got fried
- They capped the number of jumps the CL makes

The second one is necessary, RNG fucking your raid over with no real means of avoiding it except to bring more rdps is poor design.

The first one while not explicitly needed does remove room for error without implicitly changing how you're "supposed" to fight...targeting the right monster shouldn't be a lottery guess for the first 5 seconds. I'm aware it gets healed to full but it still takes a second for your tank/target finder to click the right one, especially when they stack on top of eachother (and yes, even using enemy health bars it still takes a moment).

The third, eh. With the change to the 2nd I don't see it necessary, it would have been a good incentive of SPREAD OUT YOU SCRUBS if they hadn't changed it.

[aurik]

The one you're supposed to kill gets a buff. It was pretty easy to just tab through them until you saw the buff.

[Dezzimal]

It was a bit of an issue when the dps check was actually a dps check not a retard check. You'd just assist off the guy tanking them who would pick it out for you as soon as it happened. Yogg without Thorim has a very similar mechanic.

[Guitarman]

The rewards are better so it should be.

I'm sorry but I'm just not seeing the challenge. One tank handles Emalon, straight up tanking, nothing fancy. One tank holds the adds slightly off to the side, grabbing a new one when it spawns, again not hard with 30yd taunts. The melee DPS until they see him casting his lightning charge thing then run out until it finishes casting, at which point they run back in, the exact same tactic employed for Loken. All the casters have to do is stay slightly spread out so Chain Lightning, an ability anyone PvPing for more than a day should be familiar with, doesn't, you know, chain. When one of the adds goes original Xbox huge, everyone kills it.

Yeah, I'm a seasoned raider but even so, this is children's stuff.

It's not emalon himself thats hard, don't misunderstand. It's bringing your average joe schmoe in there and hoping they have an IQ above 12 to understand fight mechanics. I swear half the people that go in there with me must be drooling all over themselves in real lie. It's expecting to be able to get a pug together that can understand the loken style mechanics and survive thats the problem.

And it's not as simple as "lol find better pug". EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I've done emalon half the raid has no fucking clue whats going on. It's me and 4 others pulling 4k+ dps thats carrying these assholes as they lie in a smoldering pile on the floor not understanding why the fuck they died.

[Arvin]

emalon is way easier than anything (besides archavon) ive ever experienced in this game.. i could safely say for a raid encounter it goes like this as the easiest and most free epics ive ever seen and if anyone complains about them = lawl

1. archavon
2. emalon
3. shade of akama

when/if anyone ever says theyre too hard i just inform them that they should go play an easier game

[Lordwafik]

And it's not as simple as "lol find better pug". EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I've done emalon half the raid has no fucking clue whats going on. It's me and 4 others pulling 4k+ dps thats carrying these assholes as they lie in a smoldering pile on the floor not understanding why the fuck they died.

Yeah I think the people in here have just done it with their guild too much or they're on those servers where all pugs are amazing and nobody sucks ever.

I had the same experiences as you, all pugs failed hardcore, hell for a while emalon felt like a daily quest where you just lost gold and morale instead of gaining it

I stopped going with pugs after my 25 man ulduar group started doing it as a part of the runs, and just do 10 man ones with mostly guild and begrudgingly pick up pugs for the last slots (after a thorough armory check of course).

So ez omgggggggg but not for everyone.

[Khelek]

Getting a PUG naxx25 invite, having the raid leader decide to not do 2 rolls for double shoulder tokens AFTER he rolls 2nd highest, so he gets it, and then not being able to clear patchwerk or instructor razuvius, deciding to do a quick flame leviathan only to discover that a demolisher has 200k hp and a bike, controlled by this champ: WoW Heroes - World of Warcraft PvE character info & ratings rocked 50k hp, then getting called names and getting kicked for calling these ppl out for bringing leeches to PUG runs.


Man, I wish we had enough ffxi ppl in the guild to not have to get PUGs for raids -. -


EDIT: I'm with Wafik/G-man on the PUGs subject btw.

[Dezzimal]

Eh top 2 rolls is pretty commonplace.

[Norellicus]

There's no point in rolling a 2nd time, it's the same random number generator, the top two are as likely to exist as top spot on two separate rolls >_>

[Khelek]

The point is not saying anything about doing it until after he rolls the 2nd highest roll. Should've been said prior to rolls. This way he could've just said to roll again if he didn't get 2nd roll. There's no point in rolling a 2nd time, but it can be done and therefore the way of rolling should be explained beforehand. I even asked about it prior to the rolls and didn't get a reply.

[Jodwahh]

Damn Khelek thats the first time I've seen someone on wow heroes show as not even ready for Naxx10 lol. As for the pug thing people where talking about it must vary greatly from server to server because yesterday 1 shotted VoA then 3 shotted Maly even with people who hadn't done either boss before. /hateme!

[Correction]

a bike, controlled by this champ: WoW Heroes - World of Warcraft PvE character info & ratings rocked 50k hp, then getting called names and getting kicked for calling these ppl out for bringing leeches to PUG runs..

Oh look, he [item=37461]upgraded his weapon[/item]. Before you know it he might even enchant his first piece of gear. Or get past neutral with any of the northrend factions. Or spec properly so all that int on his gear doesn't go 100% to waste.

[Jodwahh]

Whoops wrong thread D:

[Arvin]

whoops im dumb


random complaint

i hate rogues in pvp

[Boyiee]

spent a few hours on mimiron 10 cause my guild fails.... our first time.

Half of us have done pre-nerf sunwell, you'd think we'd be able to carry the others through easy ass shit like ulduar. In their defense though, we have a "tryout" shaman that was a shitty ass healer. Not to mention, my druid is a tank and is missing a dps trinket and neck piece, using defensive ones, and I still outdamaged our ret pally..... fucking joke.

Honestly if they weren't all real life friends (and my sister) I'd probably be gone.


complaint 2:

Finding an Alliance 25man guild that DOESN'T raid on wednesday and sunday for my rogue... Of course there are 50 guilds horde side, and 5 alliance side so it's like impossible on my server. Oh wells. Anyone want a rogue? ^^ lfg

[Russta]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bigrussta/trollcoil.jpg

[Norellicus]

I think I'm being whooshed, it looks like a pretty nice ring to me...