Random Complaint Thread

[Correction]

Random Complaint: Third consecutive page of people arguing with Faralas over trinket selection and Tol Barad Dailies. Fuck's sake.

[Falisa]

My complaint at the moment is not being able to find a guild. I guess what I'm looking for is very specific but I thought there'd atleast be a few guilds that meet the criteria. Need a serious minded, but casual scheduled late night guild.. My bf tells me to start my own since I'm having trouble finding one, but I quit the server my shaman is on back in May and I know next to no one to start a guild with now.

[Dryr]

starting a new guild won't go over all that well on any server anymore. Even if people aren't too happy where they are and are looking for a better guild, they don't want to give up lvl 8+ guild perks to chance it with a possibly better guild w/o perks. It will reach a point where blizz will have to make ways to xfer ownership of guilds because they are so valuable, which will make them commodities, which will lead to...

lots of guilds out there are nothing more than free gold to the leaders with hundreds of mbrs leveling up the guild and earning that extra 5-10% g to the bank. Lots of those members would like to switch, but again not to a perk-less new guild; ;

[Vandole]

ALLIANCE IS SO GODDAMN BAD AT BATTLEGROUNDS. IT'S THE FUCKING ARATHI BASIN CTA THIS WEEKEND AND I'VE LOST 10 STRAIGHT MATCHES BECAUSE OF SHITTY PEOPLE.

THAT IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO.

FUCKAFSDFALSKDFJALk

[Bweigelt]

My complaint at the moment is not being able to find a guild. I guess what I'm looking for is very specific but I thought there'd atleast be a few guilds that meet the criteria. Need a serious minded, but casual scheduled late night guild.. My bf tells me to start my own since I'm having trouble finding one, but I quit the server my shaman is on back in May and I know next to no one to start a guild with now.

There are a few guilds Kil'Jaeden Horde side that raid at 10 PM PST two to three nights per week which could be something you are looking for.

[Tajin]

that ^is fun because the same happens in european servers.

edit: bah, too slow fuck you bweigt

[Krye]

I didn't get a second trinket, you should probably learn to read. If I wanted to rip the guild off I would have, but I obviously didn't. You have brought up losing a PvE shadow trinket about 10 times on this forum now, then bring up "OH MAN I DON'T CARE BOUT PVE THAT SHIT IS CHILDS PLAY", it's hilariously funny and classic krye. I love how I'm bragging about using two specs, oh wait when did I do that? Seriously I thought you quit this game because PvP is to hard for you now, or did you transfer servers again to find someone to carry you to glad...again?

Get back to me when your highest rating isn't barely enough to get your T1 weapon

[Falaras]

Get back to me when your highest rating isn't barely enough to get your T1 weapon

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2.../FROSTWYRM.png

[BadKarma]

ITT: Krye thinks his opinion matters.

[aurik]

Sorry Ksandra, but I believe you want +321 intellect trinkets even on priest. Not to say that the trinket's terrible, it's ok, but int trumps all at the moment.

[Ksandra]

Sorry Ksandra, but I believe you want +321 intellect trinkets even on priest. Not to say that the trinket's terrible, it's ok, but int trumps all at the moment.

http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t110245-...st_compendium/

When we first reach level 85, spirit is king. As you progress through normal dungeons and then heroics, you
will start to feel more comfortable with your regen and it will be time to take more serious look at your other stats.
After spirit you want to prioritize haste and mastery. Now that HoT's scale with haste, Renew gets an extra tick at
12.5%. After this point haste falls slightly behind mastery in our priorities.

I didn't say it was the best trinket, but it's pretty awesome when you're working towards that spirit comfort zone, and you can stack int elsewhere if needed. And if you are close to haste then that mastery is really nice. Again I never said it was the best, but for what it takes to get it's pretty awesome considering a great/easy piece to get while waiting for something else.

[aurik]

You gotta read the quote in context. Spirit is the king of stats that aren't guaranteed to be on caster gear.

Here's the weighting charts for holy:

Single target rotation - ~11047 HPS for ~254 seconds
Stat Burst Sustained
Intellect 0.82 2.73
Spirit 0 2.80
Spell Power 0.71 0.60
Critical 0.27 0.23
Haste 0.50
Mastery 0.57 0.48


Multi-target healing rotation - ~20048 HPS for ~273 seconds
Stat Burst Sustained
Intellect 1.49 5.42
Spirit 0 5.72
Spell Power 1.29 1.17
Critical 0.48 0.43
Haste 1.41
Mastery 1.04 0.95


Note that int and spirit are almost the same value for sustained healing, while spirit has zero value for burst compared to int dominance.

[Ksandra]

You gotta read the quote in context. Spirit is the king of stats that aren't guaranteed to be on caster gear.

Here's the weighting charts for holy:

Single target rotation - ~11047 HPS for ~254 seconds
Stat Burst Sustained
Intellect 0.82 2.73
Spirit 0 2.80
Spell Power 0.71 0.60
Critical 0.27 0.23
Haste 0.50
Mastery 0.57 0.48


Multi-target healing rotation - ~20048 HPS for ~273 seconds
Stat Burst Sustained
Intellect 1.49 5.42
Spirit 0 5.72
Spell Power 1.29 1.17
Critical 0.48 0.43
Haste 1.41
Mastery 1.04 0.95


Note that int and spirit are almost the same value for sustained healing, while spirit has zero value for burst compared to int dominance.

You are missing my point completely. I never said spirit was superior to int but it is still extremely important, me quoting elitistjerks was just to support the idea that spirit is far from a useless stat especially in cata now. Depending on what trinkets you have that is a really nice upgrade. again I never said spirit is more important than int, nor did I say that trinket was BiS or even anything close for those getting into raids (or have just started) and want to have some nice shit before they're able to get drops then it is a good trinket to have considering what it takes to get it. It would be retarded to not take it just because it has spirit on it if overall it's going to give you a boost with the mastery rating combined and is easy as fuck to get..

[aurik]

Whoa now, calm down.

Trinket's still worse than any 333 with intellect and a useful additional stat/proc. Hope you don't spend commendations on it.

[Ksandra]

Whoa now, calm down.

Trinket's still worse than any 333 with intellect and a useful additional stat/proc. Hope you don't spend commendations on it.

now you're being stupid and unrealistic for the sake of trying to sound smart.

http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.-4?fi...;minrl=81;ub=5

[Saxon]

The trinket does suck.

[aurik]

An ilvl 333 int trinket is going to be 285 int, with a good proc that will beat 321 spirit. So what if there aren't any, here's a bunch of 346s which will still beat the pants off of the baradin healing trinket:

Figurine - Jeweled Serpent (JC only obv)
Witching Hourglass H
Tear of Blood H
Core of Ripeness

Spirit also is balls if you don't run out of mana, which generally is not the sticking point for progression raiding...once again, making an int trinket, or hell a haste trinket better. I use Gale of Shadows H, gonna be able to hit the next tick on WG with some care.

Sorry if I caught you on a day when you're raging on horomones.

[Ksandra]

An ilvl 333 int trinket is going to be 285 int, with a good proc that will beat 321 spirit. So what if there aren't any, here's a bunch of 346s which will still beat the pants off of the baradin healing trinket:

Figurine - Jeweled Serpent (JC only obv)
Witching Hourglass H
Tear of Blood H
Core of Ripeness

Spirit also is balls if you don't run out of mana, which generally is not the sticking point for progression raiding...once again, making an int trinket, or hell a haste trinket better. I use Gale of Shadows H, gonna be able to hit the next tick on WG with some care.

Sorry if I caught you on a day when you're raging on horomones.

so basically by backtracking what you said and still not paying attention to what I said. And I don't know where/why you think I'm raging, I'm just calling you out on stuff you didn't even look at. Basically, I don't think you're arguments are valid because you haven't seemed to look at holy all that much nor have you even paid attention to what I'm saying.

[Tajin]

Errm he's said the trinket is shit all the way, dont see how is he saving face >.>

[Ksandra]

Errm he's said the trinket is shit all the way, dont see how is he saving face >.>

he said i33 int trinkets were better when there are none, and there are only two int i346 if you aren't jewelcrafting. core is an i359 item that would take a long ass time to get if you aren't raiding (nor would I say is priority if you got that many points pre-raid). Basically, he's throwing stuff out without actually paying much attention to what he's saying, making his points less valid.

It can take a pretty long ass time to manage to get both i246 trinkets considering they are only two so therefore they only ones you can get at that lvl. I have yet to even see them drop. Again spirit and int are so comparable to holy that if you don't have anything better than this isn't trash at all nor do I think you must force yourself to get an int trinket considering how the stats are close to even. (for holy)