Random Complaint Thread

[Ksandra]

I'm not the only one having the problem, though. Many of my guild and a bunch of people in trade, so guessing it's broke for now. I logged off for the night, gotta work tomorrow morning so I'm hopeful I'll be able to get my PvP on tomorrow.

iono maybe a server thing or something I'm in a bg right now lol. but ya I would check and see if that shows up, it pops up in red when it happens.

[Aksannyi]

I'll try again tomorrow after work. If it's still acting dumb I'll put in a ticket. For now, zzzz time.

[Plow]

It's just annoying; one accidental misstep and you've aggroed something argh now the whole group has to either run back to save your ass or (in the case of Stonecore) you just fucking wipe. It's like playing New Super Mario Bros Wii with five players. It's not individual skill that gets you through the dungeon smoother, but rather making sure everyone is mashing jump and running the right tightrope without falling into lava. I never much cared for platforming gauntlets, at least not in the way WoW has implelmented them. Half of the aggravation of shit like Heroic Shadow Labyrinth was waiting for those fucking colums of trash before the last two bosses to be standing in the right spot at the right time before pulling them. Nothing under your control, you're just waiting for the wheels to come to rest in the right combination. Now you gotta hope individual party members know how far away merchants aggro from, how to navigate the bloopers, koopa troopas and bullet bills in heroic Deadmines and thread a needle through Ozruk's trash. It's just not my thing.

Merchants, rly? Oh lawd not 100k hp non elites that hit for like 3k! What ever will we do!

Seriously though, Lost city:

First pack on left.
Single big guy
2nd pack on left
Boss
Cross bridge
Pack to right
hug right wall
Group of 2
Cross bridge and hug right wall
Group of 2
Group of 2
You're at the last 2 bosses.

If you really want augh for some reason, add 1 big or 2 super ez pulls of muslims.
Ozruk trash: hug right wall.

Deadmines mario is retarded but just cuz it can lag absurdly hard.

[Kaylia]

It's just annoying; one accidental misstep and you've aggroed something argh now the whole group has to either run back to save your ass or (in the case of Stonecore) you just fucking wipe. It's like playing New Super Mario Bros Wii with five players. It's not individual skill that gets you through the dungeon smoother, but rather making sure everyone is mashing jump and running the right tightrope without falling into lava. I never much cared for platforming gauntlets, at least not in the way WoW has implelmented them. Half of the aggravation of shit like Heroic Shadow Labyrinth was waiting for those fucking colums of trash before the last two bosses to be standing in the right spot at the right time before pulling them. Nothing under your control, you're just waiting for the wheels to come to rest in the right combination. Now you gotta hope individual party members know how far away merchants aggro from, how to navigate the bloopers, koopa troopas and bullet bills in heroic Deadmines and thread a needle through Ozruk's trash. It's just not my thing.

Like I said, there is a clear path with 7 pulls unless your team is literally retarded and autorun afk.

Ozruk trash? I ask my party to stay at the corner and pull shit back (3 pulls, 2 big ogres). Never had any link in maybe 10 attempts, and I'm not sure how it could fail.

It's obviously less risky to kill every single things one by one, but you just added 15minutes to the instances for something that happens very rarely...not to mention the chance to actually wipe on these pulls if you're dealing with people of that caliber.

We're talking about random people here anyway, I'd be willing to skip stuff in a guildgroup or people I know, but randoms, nothx

And I've been running with random more often than not. I'm saying there is a safe path.

[Correction]

I love it when people think I said "I don't know how to handle the trash" when I really said "I dislike trash that's optional but just in the way enough for accidental aggro to multiply the amount of time spent clearing it two/threefold." Didn't ask for a lecture in how2heroic. Take your professor's caps off, you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Plow]

The level of retardation you're implying is normal is just absurd, though.

[Correction]

It boils down to queue lengths. In my battlegroup they are commonly 40-50 minutes, and PUGs often take more than an hour to clear an instance. This leaves your typical employed human with enough time to PUG two heroics at most on any given weeknight. In wotlk you could clear 3 heroics in an hour, and everyone learned by routine which buttons to mash at which point in time, even in Oculus. In cata you may not see the same dungeon again for a week, and at the end of a 50 minute queue I don't have a lot of faith that people are going to be patient or careful. I've seen quite the opposite too many times in too many dungeons and yes, I'm not expecting a lot, which is why I usually give precise instructions to my group regardless of whether or not they seem to be putting out decent numbers. A 16k dps hunter in H. Vortex Pinnacle the other night got blown off of Altairus platform, and that was his only mistake. He wasn't dumb, just likely fatigued by the amount of time he had to wait for the group to assemble. I understand Blizzard wanting people to pay attention during the trash of the instance, but I'd rather that attention be spent during the fight itself, when you're using your class abilities and situational awareness to achieve a concrete goal (mob dead), not spent stressing about walking from point A to point B without Pippin knocking a skeleton down the noisiest hole in Moria.

[Ksandra]

In my battlegroup they are commonly 40-50 minutes

= everyone silly (battlegroups don't exist even for dungeon finder)

[Norellicus]

wat

Your battlegroup determines what servers you are paired with for any cross-server function, BGs and Dungeon Finder alike.

[Ksandra]

wat

Your battlegroup determines what servers you are paired with for any cross-server function, BGs and Dungeon Finder alike.

They got rid of that about a month ago (or more). It's all servers now. That's why there's no battlegroup forums now.


[edit] I semi lied, I didn't realize they only split the lfg tool into 4 groups (still though 40 min queues are probably something you see on all servers for dps).

http://www.wowblues.com/us/region-wi...497535489.html

[edit] new link with final phase, took a bit to find that one. XD

[Norellicus]

Huh, missed that bit. Interesting.

[The Stig]

They got rid of that about a month ago (or more). It's all servers now. That's why there's no battlegroup forums now.


[edit] I semi lied, I didn't realize they only split the lfg tool into 4 groups (still though 40 min queues are probably something you see on all servers for dps).

http://www.wowblues.com/us/region-wi...497535489.html

[edit] new link with final phase, took a bit to find that one. XD

I unofficially earned a good rep/title "wow the first good DK tank I've saw in a new server" when someone commented how they haven't seen anyone from Bronzebeard before, this was before we realised that groups for removed.

[Ksandra]

I unofficially earned a good rep/title "wow the first good DK tank I've saw in a new server" when someone commented how they haven't seen anyone from Bronzebeard before, this was before we realised that groups for removed.

I had read about it when they did it to the EU servers first, I knew when it must have hit us when I saw someone from the Icecrown server and was like "wtf when did they make that server?"

[Kurp]

I was going to ask why I why I found myself in random battlegrounds with players from other battlegroups and data centers.

[Saxon]

Only 1 raid boss drops any caster mail wrist, and they kinda suck. :/

[Krye]

• Mandala of Stirring Patterns now grants Intellect instead of Mastery.

[Kaylia]

I love it when people think I said "I don't know how to handle the trash" when I really said "I dislike trash that's optional but just in the way enough for accidental aggro to multiply the amount of time spent clearing it two/threefold." Didn't ask for a lecture in how2heroic. Take your professor's caps off, you're barking up the wrong tree.

You're arguing that there is tiptoeing going on, that shit should not happen if you pull properly. "I know how to pull" and "we have to tiptoe" simply does not compute.

[Correction]

You're arguing that there is tiptoeing going on, that shit should not happen if you pull properly. "I know how to pull" and "we have to tiptoe" simply does not compute.

I don't have a lot of faith that people are going to be patient or careful.

It computes when you learn the difference between the pronouns "I" and "We"

[Kaylia]

Would you consider keeping your car on the road "tiptoeing"?


People are bad, and I don't trust them either. Yet, I cant really think of any pulls where there is a significant chance of fuck up because you had to "tip toe" around them.

[Guitarman]

Ghostcrawler: "

• For Cataclysm, we changed Death Strike almost completely into an ability for Blood DK tanks, which is a bit unfortunate. We want to make sure it is still a useful button for Frost or Unholy DKs who need healing."

Now today:
Death Strike now heals for 15% of the damage sustained, down from 25%.

HURRRRRRRRRR. How i make things better?!

Fucking idiots. Something wrong when I worry about getting my shit kicked from 2 mobs at once.