Random Complaint Thread

[aurik]

Shaman summary:
- purge/cleanse nerfed in pvp slightly
- tremor totem sorta-buffed sorta-nerfed for pvp (good pvpers always killed the tremor before fear anyway)
- chain heal buffed
- resto mastery buffed
- GHW increased in HPM and cost
- mana tide totem increased to 400% but spirit-buffing shenanigans will no longer work

[SamanosukeShiva]

http://worldofwarcraft.tgn.tv/topic/...id-by-numbers/

BM Last, Marks second to last, even worse than Arcane Mage.

The difference is just unreal, SV single target without rapid fire/potion, just regular rotation I can maintain 16k-17k dps easily, 26k top dps w/ rapid fire/potion, BM/MM with rapid fire/tolvir potion top DPS probably pull 14k.

[Ksandra]

The difference is just unreal, SV single target without rapid fire/potion, just regular rotation I can maintain 16k-17k dps easily, 26k top dps w/ rapid fire/potion, BM/MM with rapid fire/tolvir potion top DPS probably pull 14k.

did you watch the vid to see how he got those figures?

[edit] think I misunderstood you using the word "unreal" XD thought you meant you didn't believe it. XD sorry ;_;

[Dantrag]

Shaman summary:
- purge/cleanse nerfed in pvp slightly
- tremor totem sorta-buffed sorta-nerfed for pvp (good pvpers always killed the tremor before fear anyway)
- chain heal buffed
- resto mastery buffed
- GHW increased in HPM and cost
- mana tide totem increased to 400% but spirit-buffing shenanigans will no longer work

PVE:
I don't Chain heal got enough of a buff to become more used that it is now.
Tremor totem will now kinda suck for encounters with multiple fears. Certain bosses and certain pulls.
Resto mastery will help a bit
GHW needed the throughput but not the mana increase. It will now cost 7200, which is something like 2k more than most other hearlers "big heal"
Not sure about the mana tide thing. Guess we'll just see.

[fantasticdan]

Fel Armor no longer regenerates the caster's life and increases his/her maximum mana by 10% instead.

What the fuck?

[aurik]

Aside from Beauty in BRC are there any current encounters with multiple fears? I believe paladins fatslow heal also costs in the 7k range. Druid HT is 5k, heals about 22k on tanks, figuring in mastery.

Mana tide change is absolutely a small buff for the typical player who don't stack spirit procs with the totem. I wonder if DM:T spirit buff will count for the totem. I'm guessing no.

Fuller changes are posted on mmo now. They be takin away my tree form 31 sec duration, down from 40. WG down to 8 sec, mastery buffed slightly.

[Dantrag]

Aside from Beauty in BRC are there any current encounters with multiple fears? I believe paladins fatslow heal also costs in the 7k range. Druid HT is 5k, heals about 22k on tanks, figuring in mastery.

Few of those mobs in SFK. Shaman heals were capping at about 19k tops with GHW averaging around 18500. We'll see how the increase + Mastery increase for shammy plays out.


edit:

# Tremor Totem now has a 1 min cooldown, removes Fear, Charm, and Sleep effects from party and raid members within 10 yards, and can be dropped even while the caster is afflicted with such effects.
# Mana Tide Totem now gives Party members within 23 yards of the totem 400% of the caster's spirit (excluding short-duration Spirit bonuses).
# Greater Healing Wave now costs 33% of base mana, up from 30%.

Wait what? No increase to GHW? or is that just a mistake on MMO's part? Also range on tremor totem is retarded as is on mana tide.

edit 2:

No patch?

[aurik]

GHW healing value buff listed on MMOC now.
- New bracer enchants listed to "nerf" leatherworking down to a perk of +80 prime stat.
- New alchemist stones listed, no stats yet though. Hopefully there's a solid one for healers!

[Correction]

Hurray, alchemist stones worth making. 310 agi here I come.

[aurik]

The alch stone looks like it will be 301 primary stat, mastery, blue socket, potion buff. Looks to ballpark at slightly worse than DM:T for resto druid. The potion buff is worth ~4k mana (mysterious mana), which is eclipsed by the 400 spirit just before the 2 minute mark, but the stone also has a heap of mastery which is nontrivial, so probably around 3-3.5 minutes they are equivalent. If you can get a full PoConcentration, that mark probably happens at about 6 minutes into the fight.

Edit: wow, nevermind, caster stone is red socket +10 int, making it 351 int, and 194 haste, potion bonus. Probably equivalent or even flat-out better than DM:T.

[Norellicus]

I just like having respectable trinkets available without mass dungeon runs.

[Kaylia]

Never got my valor point after shadowfang keep....yuck.

[aurik]

Might have capped out for the week last week. I capped out on Saturday I think.

[Kaylia]

Reset was today I believe.


There was a weird dc earrly in the instance where everyone got booted and the first few pull reseted when we logged back. After we finished the dungeon, we could still seek for more member.

[Katlan]

Wow, wtf up w/ the feral nerfs.. They said they were nerfing bleeds by 10% and buffing mangle(lol for cat) and shred in order to push some dmg away from bleeds and onto spike moves... but according to the patch notes its a 30% nerf to rake/rip and they haven't increased mangle/shred anymore then last ptr notes.

feral is good dps behind a good player, but they aren't broken like SV hunters are so i don't understand the drastic nerf. All it comes down to is bad pvp players bitching about cat bleeds, so they go ahead and are about to nerf cat into the ground

[aurik]

Cat bleeds were pretty retarded in pvp. From what I can tell they did buff shred and mangle pretty big (350->450 etc)

[Arvin]

Edit: nevermind, just saw it.

[Arvin]

Do not like the mana tide change at all.

Nerfs to Shaman PvP, ok whatever. Probably deserve it.

[Katlan]

Cat bleeds were pretty retarded in pvp. From what I can tell they did buff shred and mangle pretty big (350->450 etc)

That buff was in line w/a 10% nerf... Depending on how good the Druid was it could be a nerf or a buff to them. But 30% to all bleeds is harsh. Idk if it's for pvp. Code shit so it does less dmg in pvp and leave pve alone instead of nerfing a class into the ground. Same thing is w/berserk... Have had that ability for ages.. And while it was great for pvp when you failed to interrupt a fear and your trinket was on CD, it was amazing in pve since it allows the priest to fearward somebody else.

[Falisa]

Do not like the mana tide change at all.

Nerfs to Shaman PvP, ok whatever. Probably deserve it.

I dislike the tremor totem change more than anything... its worthless now. For PvE I mean