Random Complaint Thread

[Cephius]

Holy Paladins have been nerfed like 3 dozen times this expansion, as a newbie healer I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore. They nerfed Light of Dawn to not heal the beacon, so I (and everyone) specced out of it because that makes it pretty much useless, then not 24 hours later they reverse the nerf because supposedly that wasn't what the hotfix was intended to do. I mean what the holy hell?

[Ksandra]

Holy Paladins have been nerfed like 3 dozen times this expansion, as a newbie healer I have no idea what the fuck is going on anymore. They nerfed Light of Dawn to not heal the beacon, so I (and everyone) specced out of it because that makes it pretty much useless, then not 24 hours later they reverse the nerf because supposedly that wasn't what the hotfix was intended to do. I mean what the holy hell?

ya shit is retarded. I think the only thing they wanted to take away from beacon of light was lay on hands. Which I loved and makes sad (but was op for bgs). I hope this is the last of the nerfs though. I'm enjoying holy paly healing a lot more than holy priest.

[Cephius]

ya shit is retarded. I think the only thing they wanted to take away from beacon of light was lay on hands. Which I loved and makes sad (but was op for bgs). I hope this is the last of the nerfs though. I'm enjoying holy paly healing a lot more than holy priest.

Which is also retarded, because LoH now applies forbearance to the target, which puts protection paladins at a distinct disadvantage since it means they can't use half their cooldowns as a result. I mean really, its like the consequences of the nerfs just aren't thought out at all.

[Ksandra]

Which is also retarded, because LoH now applies forbearance to the target, which puts protection paladins at a distinct disadvantage since it means they can't use half their cooldowns as a result. I mean really, its like the consequences of the nerfs just aren't thought out at all.

ya it's ridiculous, I don't see why they can't just do forbearance in arena/bgs, and leave it out of pve. Healing takes enough focus now on fights, no need to make it harder at this point.

[Norellicus]

LoH applying Forebearance is old hat, blame the fact that these devs don't want to maintain separate rulesets for pve/pvp for that one. I don't remember who it was but a blue pretty much said "Yeah, we know we just killed paladin defensive cooldowns, but it was broken in PVP. Hopefully your healers are good enough that it won't be an issue!"

[Cephius]

LoH applying Forebearance is old hat, blame the fact that these devs don't want to maintain separate rulesets for pve/pvp for that one. I don't remember who it was but a blue pretty much said "Yeah, we know we just killed paladin defensive cooldowns, but it was broken in PVP. Hopefully your healers are good enough that it won't be an issue!"

That's pretty much the crux of the issue, trying to balance a game around two completely different playstyles is pants-on-head retarded. What's stopping them from just making a separate spec/ability tree available for when you want to pvp? Do people even care about world PVP anymore?

[Ksandra]

LoH applying Forebearance is old hat, blame the fact that these devs don't want to maintain separate rulesets for pve/pvp for that one.

Ya I just don't understand why though. we can't even LoH in arena, there's no reason they can't just put forbearance as a pvp only thing. I wouldn't have a single beef with that.

[Melena]

I am still pissed the keymaster achievement is gone

[Katlan]

Blizz seems all over the place w/ nerfs / buffs in Cata, its kind of mind boggling to me. I know its the state of any mmo to have classes constantly tweaked, but they have never been so all over the place in tbc or wrath. Furthermore, it seems like they change stuff for the sake of changing it, and they don't test stuff properly anymore.. or maybe it's that they toss out so many hotfixes nearly ever day that they lose track of stuff that doesnt work. Or maybe they have become so over-reliant on on ppl's PTR feedback that they don't adequately test stuff internally anymore

Bear's taking too much dmg.. they buff armor in a hotfix and then don't realize it was never applied until over a month later? Buffing Moonkin, then nerfing them 2 days later, then partially reverting the nerf when they realize their was a bug that was inflating their numbers that wasn't related to what they were nerfing. Killing Bear dmg to pathetic lv's on a 1month+ PTR, to then realize it was over nerfed and changing it 2 days later. Changing SP's to have 80-100k+ Crit's on MB, then flat out nerfing their dmg by 10% instead of adjusting their mastery buff which caused this to begin w/. Then there are pallies, ect...

Dunno... I'm just not a fan of how they have been treating classes this xpac

[Correction]

I am still pissed the keymaster achievement is gone

Did they change it to a FoS or remove it entirely?

[Odon]

WELL I WONT GET OVER FUCKING BLIZZARD FUCKING PUTTING BoE RECIPES FOR JC AND ENCHANTING WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT, MAKE SOME RICH BASTARDS MORE GOLD?! FUCKING CAPITALIST PIGS FUCK SAKE NIGGERS DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE.


that felt good.

I bought them all, I'm the only one on the realm with the agi cut and one of the few people with the str and the only other one with the int. Only person with the enchants.

Sup 4th lowest pop realm. umad?

I've made over 300k so far LOL

[Katlan]

Did they change it to a FoS or remove it entirely?

removed it entirely. No FoS given to those who previously got it

[Plow]

Blizz seems all over the place w/ nerfs / buffs in Cata, its kind of mind boggling to me. I know its the state of any mmo to have classes constantly tweaked, but they have never been so all over the place in tbc or wrath. Furthermore, it seems like they change stuff for the sake of changing it, and they don't test stuff properly anymore.. or maybe it's that they toss out so many hotfixes nearly ever day that they lose track of stuff that doesnt work. Or maybe they have become so over-reliant on on ppl's PTR feedback that they don't adequately test stuff internally anymore

Bear's taking too much dmg.. they buff armor in a hotfix and then don't realize it was never applied until over a month later? Buffing Moonkin, then nerfing them 2 days later, then partially reverting the nerf when they realize their was a bug that was inflating their numbers that wasn't related to what they were nerfing. Killing Bear dmg to pathetic lv's on a 1month+ PTR, to then realize it was over nerfed and changing it 2 days later. Changing SP's to have 80-100k+ Crit's on MB, then flat out nerfing their dmg by 10% instead of adjusting their mastery buff which caused this to begin w/. Then there are pallies, ect...

Dunno... I'm just not a fan of how they have been treating classes this xpac

The dev's are kind of clueless about actual game balance, there's some really obvious stuff that they don't realize.

One example: the boots that match DK pvp set are crit, the ones that match war set are haste. It seems like a simple oversight, but for them to really not realize which classes are going to take which stats has some pretty major negative implications as to how little the people implementing the changes actually understand about the mechanics.

[Guitarman]

Glad i'm not the only one confused about the way hotfixes are being handled lately. Hunters are still free to do insane damage, and DK, which was pulling behind them is nerfed every time a blue posts. Yeah i understand we were a bit OP, but what sense does it make to nerf the #2 DPS to hell and let hunters faceroll aimed shot for 21k dps in greens? (exaggeration, but still...).

[Odon]

Glad i'm not the only one confused about the way hotfixes are being handled lately. Hunters are still free to do insane damage, and DK, which was pulling behind them is nerfed every time a blue posts. Yeah i understand we were a bit OP, but what sense does it make to nerf the #2 DPS to hell and let hunters faceroll aimed shot for 21k dps in greens? (exaggeration, but still...).

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Guitarman]

What the fuck are you talking about?

• Dark Transformation now increases pet damage by 60%, down from 80%.
• Death Coil damage has been reduced by 15%.
• The pet damage bonus from Shadow Infusion is now 6% per stack, down from 8%.

Death Coil damage has been reduced by roughly 10%.
Unholy Might (passive) has been reduced to a 5% Strength increase, down from 10%.

• The ratio of runic power return from Magic Suppression has been reduced by roughly one third.
• Rage of Rivendare now increases strike damage by 12/24/36%, down from 15/30/45%.

VS

Marksmanship

• Chimera Shot's overall damage has been increased by roughly 50%.
• Wild Quiver (Mastery): Chance for this to trigger per mastery has been increased by approximately 17%.

Do i really need to fucking go on? Hunters were already dominating, and and still are. Every fucking patch they do, my DK gets hit in the dick. Yeah we were near the top of the DPS pile, but really? Way to overdo it with the nerfbat.

[Tajin]

Eh I can still outdps all those brainless idiots trying MM, PvP its however retarded hunter is the new wotlk pala / dk :/

[Odon]

• Dark Transformation now increases pet damage by 60%, down from 80%.
• Death Coil damage has been reduced by 15%.
• The pet damage bonus from Shadow Infusion is now 6% per stack, down from 8%.

Death Coil damage has been reduced by roughly 10%.
Unholy Might (passive) has been reduced to a 5% Strength increase, down from 10%.

• The ratio of runic power return from Magic Suppression has been reduced by roughly one third.
• Rage of Rivendare now increases strike damage by 12/24/36%, down from 15/30/45%.

VS

Marksmanship

• Chimera Shot's overall damage has been increased by roughly 50%.
• Wild Quiver (Mastery): Chance for this to trigger per mastery has been increased by approximately 17%.

Do i really need to fucking go on? Hunters were already dominating, and and still are. Every fucking patch they do, my DK gets hit in the dick. Yeah we were near the top of the DPS pile, but really? Way to overdo it with the nerfbat.

If you're talking about PVE, sure maybe. But hunter's don't even use Chimera shot in PVE except to replenish SS. If you're crying about the fact that Survival hunters out DPS'd you, you should probably just stop fucking crying. Survival doesn't scale AT ALL - The difference between a 346 iLvl surv hunter and a 372 is about 2K DPS give or take.

I'm rank 12 in my BG in arena on my hunter, and this class is plagued with so many fucking bugs and broken mechanics it's unreal. I leveled my death knight up to 85 and geared it out and I was doing things I could never dream of on my hunter. Your class is a fucking joke.

The fact that you linked the two most meaningless changes for hunters means you don't know shit about the class. Stop crying that DKs got nerfed, it was needed.

[Odon]

And for the record, MM isn't even the top single target spec. BM is.

[Dezzimal]

Wow Odon you've really taken this thread's name to heart.

http://i.min.us/jl00D8.jpg

Frustrating to wreck kids that hard at every turn and still not able to grab a win. BG queues are so bad and the BGs themselves tend to end up being less than fun. Aparently AFK bots do a better job assaulting flags than real players do.