Random Complaint Thread

[The Stig]

Oh I have the things to buy the Love Fool... I just don't care for PvP and don't really -want- to do the BG part. I skipped the Winter Veil one that requires honarable kills as a "little helper" because I just don't care for WoW PvP. (I figured I could put it off since I didn't have the rep to do the Ogri'la thing anyway). That.. and finding someone to just group with me to enter Naxx. It's like pulling teeth to find help, unless you offer stupid amounts of money. Pet peeve of mine. Hate having to offer money for simple help and hate seeing people have to resort to it. I'll always refuse the money if I help someone, but that's just me.

It seems you're making it sound harder than anticipated. For the BG one, simply queue up for Arathi Basin battleground. When you get in, just walk to the black smith (middle of map). Go indoors place fool down and pity it, then leave (track the achievement to make sure it comes off your list, and the mini map should say "Blacksmith" when you do it). Chances of you getting killed during this time is minimal or highly unlikely. Also, for the Winter Veil one, although late now, it says you need to do 50 kills while in the elf costume. I'm not sure if you're aware, but you don't need to do the kill yourself. How I did the achievement (without dying) is simply queueing for Alterac Valley and just hanging with the bulk of the large group doing some AOE attacks, while everyone else gunned the opposing faction down. To put it bluntly, I leeched while providing minimal damage to not attract attention, and hanged near healers.

For naxx, do you not have an idle guild friend that would let you group with for literally just 1 min? Simply head to Naxx, hang outside, ask if you can invite someone in guild, make raid, go in, lay fool, pity, run out, done. Apologies in advance if you're not actually in a guild. Otherwise, a workaround would be to queue for Wintergrasp and *pretend* to do something (so no one reports you). When it ends, you will still be in a raid group regardless, and fly out to Naxx.

I do however, agree with you that given the easy nature of this game (nowadays), people are still even more extremely lazy. It's easy to get to dungeons. It's easy to craft. It's easy to farm. Why is getting something so simple done so hard... lol

[Leashedragon]

Didn't say it was hard, just really dislike PvP in WoW and avoid it like the plague. Having never done a BG I have no idea where to go in there. Was going to look up the location of the Blacksmith for the Achievement because I honestly have no idea. I'd hate to be a leech as well.

For the raid.. yeah. I'm not in a guild. The friend I came back to WoW in hopes that I wouldn't be alone hasn't logged on in 2 weeks. All the other guys I played with previously didn't come back like we had hoped, either. So I'm totally alone. I've thought about joining a guild, but with the new guild level thing most casual/non-raid guilds are just massive zerg guilds to get it leveled. I'd much rather prefer a small guild or none at all. I'm playing rather sporadically, too, so I just keep to myself.

[Aksannyi]

Man you sound like you're in a similar boat to me. Shame we're not on the same server, I'd let you join my guild. And I'm an achievement whore so I'd definitely help you out with this stuff. A lot of days I'm the only person in it. Most of our members are a few 85s we stole from my old guild but who have alts elsewhere, and a few newbs. The hope is that we'll eventually raid but honestly, I've just been leveling and that's been the game for me.

[Thuronn]

Didn't say it was hard, just really dislike PvP in WoW and avoid it like the plague. Having never done a BG I have no idea where to go in there.

Please explain to me how you've come to the conclusion that you don't like PvP, without ever doing a BG.

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[Plow]

I've thought about joining a guild, but with the new guild level thing most casual/non-raid guilds are just massive zerg guilds to get it leveled. I'd much rather prefer a small guild or none at all.

Unfortunately that's just kind of a "get used to it" deal. The perks are good enough that low member guilds are going to get fewer and fewer over time, the only ones that will be likely to persist are those that just plain don't care and get their level 25 eventually anyway.

[Aksannyi]

It doesn't help that they nerfed the hell out of guild xp gains, essentially making it impossible to level a small guild. Huge 500 member guilds are going to reach the cap easily regardless of how little of their actual xp counts toward the guild. The 50% nerf was fine, I have no idea why they further lowered it to 25%. (I think those numbers are right, forgive me if I'm wrong.)

I'm certainly not saying that a 5 member guild should reach 25 at the same time as a huge guild but our small guild has been level 1 for nearly four weeks now.

[Ksandra]

It doesn't help that they nerfed the hell out of guild xp gains, essentially making it impossible to level a small guild. Huge 500 member guilds are going to reach the cap easily regardless of how little of their actual xp counts toward the guild. The 50% nerf was fine, I have no idea why they further lowered it to 25%. (I think those numbers are right, forgive me if I'm wrong.)

I'm certainly not saying that a 5 member guild should reach 25 at the same time as a huge guild but our small guild has been level 1 for nearly four weeks now.

are you guys doing 5man heroics? I know they nerfed it but atm in our guild we usually only have one group doing heroics because various people aren't on at different times (usually 6 people on at a time), and we are at lvl 7 and still getting about a lvl a week. You only need 3 people now to get guild credit in a 5man so it shouldn't be too hard.

[Aksannyi]

If we had three 85s ever playing at one time, we might. That's rarely the case. Dead guild is dead. And I'm not that interested in being hardcore raiding, so I'm fairly content to stay where I am. I'd just kind of like the level 2 perk for leveling my alts.

[Falaras]

Complaint: DPS Requirements for Cho'gall. I love DPS race fights but not ones with tons of add mechanics and corruption. We actually are using the heroic trick of letting me (mage) get to 100 corruption for a DPS increase so we can make the timer but then the raid takes more damage.

[Boyiee]

ok random complaint:

arena'ing with friends is finally hitting that point where you don't want to arena with your friends anymore. Almost always guaranteed to happen lol, but at least it took a while this time.

They say our comp isn't as good as it used to be, and that our classes got nerfed to hard, and they can't survive long enough against certain comps.

I just sit there and lol - we are running shadowcleave (LOLLLLL) and they (druid/dk) barely have 2k resil. What do you think is going to happen.

[Slott]

Falaras - hows it a dps race exactly? Just make sure you arent all puking over each other and the last phase is fairly simple.

[Katlan]

Complaint: DPS Requirements for Cho'gall. I love DPS race fights but not ones with tons of add mechanics and corruption. We actually are using the heroic trick of letting me (mage) get to 100 corruption for a DPS increase so we can make the timer but then the raid takes more damage.

Cho'gall you just need competent dps and the adds need to die on the stairs. You should only need your 3 ranged for the first 3 waves of slimes (maybe toss in 1 AoE melee if you are having issues on the 3rd). 4th set of slimes you will prolly need all / most dps on them. Then just burn him down... If your getting a 5th add then have the OT hold / interrupt him (like they would tank him) and just have everyone continue to burn cho'gall. All that matters is that you push him into p2 before that one move goes off (blanking on name).. the one which you need to normally kill the add before anyways.

This is all for 10man. 2 interrupts for the adds is what you normally need, but if he is close, then just have the OT solo interrupt him even if that means one getting off. If corruption is an issue then just stick one interrupter on that last add. They all go poof when p2 starts, so no need to kill the 5th (and you can't afford to for enrage timer anyways)

If your guild can kill council then they have the dps for cho'gall. It just may require a little bit of smart movement from the OT to not move the adds "too" fast so that melee aren't basically SoL until the add is moved into position

[Boyiee]

We had trouble on chogall until we tried burning lust around 27% instead of in p2. The fight then became a joke.

[Falaras]

Falaras - hows it a dps race exactly? Just make sure you arent all puking over each other and the last phase is fairly simple.

Not the last phase, getting less than 5 add sets in the first phase is the problem we are having. On our best attempt (Wipe at like 30%) we had 5 adds and where going to have a 6th before 25%.

If your guild can kill council then they have the dps for cho'gall. It just may require a little bit of smart movement from the OT to not move the adds "too" fast so that melee aren't basically SoL until the add is moved into position

Yeah but council doesn't have the add mechanics and such, my DPS is lower on Cho'gall than on Council for sure.

[aznmajiktaru]

What's your comp? sounds like you're having too many people on adds too early or the people who can kill adds aren't killing them fast enough then.

[Kitha]

What's your comp? sounds like you're having too many people on adds too early or the people who can kill adds aren't killing them fast enough then.

SAVE ME AZN

Blood DK
Prot Paladin (me, hit capped so I can solo interrupt as needed)

Resto Shaman
Resto Druid
Disc Priest

Fire Mage
Feral Druid
Moonkin
Rogue
Warlock

Now that I think about it, I did have to move around the adherent because of shadow crashes often. Bring the adds to the stairs and have 3~ dps peel off to kill it? I was backpeddling them towards the stairs so I could interrupt better, but the adds seemed to die too fast and people wouldn't get off in time so I could finish them off (HoW + ShoR was plenty to finish off when they're <10%) so many times they'd die before I could even get to the stairs. I must be doing something wrong.

[Falaras]

What's your comp? sounds like you're having too many people on adds too early or the people who can kill adds aren't killing them fast enough then.

Boomkin
Fire Mage
Destro Lock
Rogue
Feral
Prot Paladin
Blood DK
Disc Priest
Resto Shaman
Resto Druid

Adds are a real problem, we had to have our boomkin respec Fungal Growth for snare because Earthbind wasn't working well and we don't have a hunter for the oh my god delicious frost trap. As a fire mage I can't AoE a lot of little things very well, I think the same goes for Destro locks.

[Katlan]

Lock, mage and boomkin should have np w/ adds until at least the 3rd wave. They should "ideally" be able to handle the 3rd wave also, but if they are having issues then the rogue should jump out and AoE a little. 4th set of adds have all dps switch to adds (but lets ranged get hate first so melee dont get raped) w/ melee AoEing also.

Mage should do frost nova at least starting on 3rd set, to slow them down, and Boomkin should glyph his AoE to slow movement speed by 20% also. Are you stacking each puddle on the stairs? the first 2 should be nearly at the top (one right side, other left), and the 3rd and 4th should be right below those.

[Odon]

ok random complaint:

arena'ing with friends is finally hitting that point where you don't want to arena with your friends anymore. Almost always guaranteed to happen lol, but at least it took a while this time.

They say our comp isn't as good as it used to be, and that our classes got nerfed to hard, and they can't survive long enough against certain comps.

I just sit there and lol - we are running shadowcleave (LOLLLLL) and they (druid/dk) barely have 2k resil. What do you think is going to happen.

Explain to them the more resil they wear the more damage they do so they stop being fucking morons.

[Tajin]

Boomkin
Fire Mage
Destro Lock
Rogue
Feral
Prot Paladin
Blood DK
Disc Priest
Resto Shaman
Resto Druid

Adds are a real problem, we had to have our boomkin respec Fungal Growth for snare because Earthbind wasn't working well and we don't have a hunter for the oh my god delicious frost trap. As a fire mage I can't AoE a lot of little things very well, I think the same goes for Destro locks.

Out locks (or at least one of them) specs demo (i think its demo) and uses the felguard to tank most of the blobs, also our rogue goes with the OT to interrupt the add. If you're close to 25% you can just burn the bastard and the extra add dissapears which is kinda cool >.> We roll with lock x2, and mage as ranged dps though no clue what spec the mage is :S