Random Complaint Thread

[Guitarman]

I got enough G to buy me enough flasks for months, enough for gems. And enough income to buy BoE epics for new chars I'm leveling.

even then, who buys their flasks anymore? My hunter is an alchemist and flasks go for peanuts. guild cauldrons killed that market.

[Boyiee]

I think it's bullshit that bliz is going to reward tanks and some healers more for doing heroics. I wait 40min in que and you get instant plus a reward? Fuck that.

Stupid change. Before dungeon q's, people had to spam trade/general/lfg and form their group and go to the instance. Que taking 20-30min is no different now than it used to be. It's an un-needed and unfair change.

[Cephius]

I'm surprised they did it, I'm sure many people will QQ in much the same way. What else do you want them to do to reduce queue times though?

[Meresgi]

I'm surprised they did it, I'm sure many people will QQ in much the same way. What else do you want them to do to reduce queue times though?

Basically what Lordender said. The new heroics are boring as hell, and were even boring doing them for the second go around. I would assume the reason queue times are so long are due to the fact that idiots wipe groups on new heroics so most tanks like to stick with guildmates when doing them. And no tank wants to play the lottery sometimes and hope he doesn't get sat with the special ed kids while doing Grim Batol or HoO.

[Katlan]

Basically what Lordender said. The new heroics are boring as hell, and were even boring doing them for the second go around. I would assume the reason queue times are so long are due to the fact that idiots wipe groups on new heroics so most tanks like to stick with guildmates when doing them. And no tank wants to play the lottery sometimes and hope he doesn't get sat with the special ed kids while doing Grim Batol or HoO.

I agree.. Lordender hit it on point. Blizz was retarded w/ designing these heroics. Yeah, they were fun the first dozen times you did them and they are creative and were fun. But what they failed to do was design 5 man's w/the vision that most ppl are going to be running at least one every day or a handful of times each week.

And I don't think que times are solely based on retards. Yes, this is a point. Bit another big fact is, because of the guild experience system, most ppl are taking at least 3-4 guildies into heroics. I already have those mounts, and even if I didn't; there is no way I would risk a low chance mount drop and having to deal w/ potential idiots AND gain no guild xp just to get those rewards. It's not worth it for me as a tank. Furthermore, all those mounts are from retardly easy instances. You have a better chance to get the mount from spending 5-10 minutes over doing a 30-45minute+ heroic.

Also: gotta love the fact that this dungeon finder change was posted after blizz normal hours. They haven't done that in ages, and it makes me lol because they knew ppl would be pissed and its why they did it.

Gotta love all these reasons to artificially delay a patch that already offers basically no new content. Wasn't it over a month ago they said they wanted smaller / faster content updates? Then a week later then add new ways to get guild xp that need to be tested.. and now this? Holy shit at 4.1... just give it to ppl alrdy

[Cephius]

Well, yeah, a big part of it is your average random heroic takes an hour because most groups go slowly and wipe 2-3 times in a normal run. The thing is, the heroics will remain the same throughout the whole expansion, so they can't be too easy at first or by the end of the xpac you'll find blood DKs soloing half of them. It'll be better after 4.1 when your average player overgears every heroic and all but the biggest tards will blow through them in half an hour or less.

I think it's a questionable incentive, because a lot of people are going to be pissed that tanks get yet another bonus. I think they felt the need to do something to address complaints about DPS queue times and this was the easiest/laziest way of doing it.

[Katlan]

Don't think it will have anything but a small impact on que times. Most ppl won't bother, it won't make ppl who normally do heroics w/ 2-4 guildies suddenly want to solo que. All it will do is give a bonus to those tanks/healers who already que for stuff.

[Correction]

This will only flood the queues with a glut of mediocre-to-bad tanks and healers. Meh.

[Cephius]

Don't think it will have anything but a small impact on que times. Most ppl won't bother, it won't make ppl who normally do heroics w/ 2-4 guildies suddenly want to solo que. All it will do is give a bonus to those tanks/healers who already que for stuff.

I think there are a fair amount of tanks or people with tank specs out there who just get their valor points from raids and don't touch heroics, this may give a percentage of them enough incentive to queue for one if they're bored on a non-raid day.

[Katlan]

This will only flood the queues with a glut of mediocre-to-bad tanks and healers. Meh.

I think there are a fair amount of tanks or people with tank specs out there who just get their valor points from raids and don't touch heroics, this may give a percentage of them enough incentive to queue for one if they're bored on a non-raid day.

Yes and yes... sadly

[Norellicus]

As a druid with feral and resto specs I find this delicious 8)

[aurik]

Holy shit I wouldn't queue for pug for a very low % chance at a mount. Especially not when you can solo all the mount droppers mentioned faster. Maybe if they put Ashes or some other very hard to obtain / unobtainable mounts and pets (blizzcon bear, original ZA bear, karazhan bat pet, etc). Or the very rare drop pets like oozeling or the various whelplings.

Also holy fuck 4.1 is taking forever.

[Katlan]

Also holy fuck 4.1 is taking forever.

You know this new dungeon finder is a reason for them to prolong 4.1 even longer. It for sure wont be this Tuesday now... and the next two weeks following are holiday events (one starting the following tuesday and the next the tuesday after that). Have they ever pushed a patch on the same week a holiday event starts? I don't think they have; and if that's the case then 4.1 wont be until next month

[Lordender]

This will only flood the queues with a glut of mediocre-to-bad tanks and healers. Meh.

yep also the amount of assholes will go way up. You already have tanks trying to extort the chaos orbs, friend told me about some tank saying the orb was his as soon as he joined and when someone didn't respond he just dropped group.

I don't understand why they just didn't nerf the fuck out of the Tier 1 heroics to wrath levels, I mean really nerf the fuck out of them and put incentives for everyone who does tier 1 heroics like a loot bag/occulus style while keeping tier 2 heroics much harder since it offers more vp/epics and at the very least maelstrom crystals to the upper geared people.

I mean hell they could have made a crabby pet/mount thrown into some loot bag @ 1% drop rate for the tier 1 heroics along with the usual gems/flasks/gold and it would have been enough incentive to keep tier 1 heroics somewhat useful.

[Tajin]

I've never spend more than 35 minutes waiting for a dungeon, really dont know why people cries so much, 30 minutes is a good time to farm stuff, in fact sometimes I wish tank queue wasnt instant so I could farm stuff / have excuse to do arch / fish.

[Aksannyi]

Yeah but you're the minority. The vast majority of the WoW playerbase would rather AFK and do absolutely nothing until their queue pops instead of actually going out and exploring the world.

And it's for that reason that I fucking hate hanging out in Orgrimmar.

[aurik]

People have a short memory. Remember back when you had to actually shout in town to get a dungeon pug? It would take at least that long to put together a group and fly out, if you could even get a group invite shouting as a dps

At least now you can just let the system work its magic in the background instead of being tethered to town.

[Correction]

I've never spend more than 35 minutes waiting for a dungeon, really dont know why people cries so much, 30 minutes is a good time to farm stuff, in fact sometimes I wish tank queue wasnt instant so I could farm stuff / have excuse to do arch / fish.

35 minutes is a long time if you work/have family/other responsibilities that cut your MMO time to a few hours on weekdays.

[aurik]

Sure, but it's never been better than what it currently is. Grouping with other people in MMOs is time-consuming and difficult to schedule if you have other responsibilities outside of the MMO. This is not a new problem, nor exclusive to WoW.

[Katlan]

35 minutes is a long time if you work/have family/other responsibilities that cut your MMO time to a few hours on weekdays.

I am not trying to sound like a douche. But if ppl have so little time to play a mmo that they cant wait 35 minutes for a dungeon que because they can't que w/ any friends who are a tank &/or healer, then I don't see how they have time to even play a mmo. I understand they may have more time on the weekends, but if you are so limited on the weekdays no mmo can make miracles happen for those ppl who have so little time.

Yes, WoW is obviously trying. But anybody who is complaining that 30 minutes is too long to wait and they don't have enough time to do a dungeon during the night because they have to wait for a 30 min que.. then they are fighting a one sided / unrealistic battle.