Random Complaint Thread

[The Stig]

oh no uni that's fine, and yeh don't worry only 3 of the 6 UK people actually raid all the time (me and 2 others), the other 3 are kinda "mweh" 2 of them were serious Vanilla Raiders but only logon during raid nights nowadays. A few of the dutch ones seem to have trouble making it too, resulting in only 2 bosses done last night in our raid with only 8 people. Whether this trend will continue or not (and resulting in the downfall of the guild, I do not know, which is why the horde one is installed in the event shit happens, we can move all our alliance mains to horde)

Crude is good. We kinda spend a lot of time calling each other retards in a none serious way (I mean, no one actually really rages).

Ok I'll be blunt the reason why I am paranoid is because I don't want your money wasted if you transfer, I mean the guild is social and all but not to the point where it's flooding with people, ya? And even if people are on they may not really talk, which is why I'm promising nothing, although I'm always happy to talk. I kinda don't want you to spend lots of money if you see what I mean as it's a risk.

So what I mean now is, don't rush, see if you got any other options, but if you're bored, got spare cash, transfer a main or alt over to see how it is, etc, that kinda thing =p ;; although this might not happen, I'm worried that not too long after you transfer everything does go to crap and the guys that are still seriously playing jump to horde, resulting in another jump for you (which would kinda make this all pointless in a sense).

Just to check are you Horde or Alliance ? Bearing in mind all of my mains and alts, except 1 alt, are alliance and the ones that are still "seriously playing" set 1 char up on horde for some fun. unless you're happy to move your main to alliance and then an alt you plan to work on to horde so you're kinda "with us" (a measly 2-5 people) all the time.

So yeh sorry to sound like a pest/nag but I'm just trying to maybe make your life better at the most efficient manner, i.e. if you hate your realm/don't want to join a "proper" social guild where most people are idiots like the rogue and the guy who lost his achievements, etc

[LidenbokValour]

My main is Alliance.

Also I can see why your worried, to be honest with you mate. I don't play WoW with anyone, so I am always kinda alone anyway, I don't care about the number of people in the guild and thinking about it, maybe it would be quite a lot of fun leveling up a character with a bunch of blokes lol I've never leveled a horde character high so it's all still quite new and there is some classes I want to level up still. I have the money spare right now so it's okay. Even if it stuff does go tits up I'll be on a server with new people and new opportunities And there maybe some days I can raid with you.

[The Stig]

Yeh we're a bunch of blokes, and 2 women (1 30~ casual italian, 1 dutch, not sure of age, but presumably 20~24). But only 3-4 of us are really seriously levelling a horde char

Levelling up wise I hope I'm not going too fast, I mean, I'm level 48 already in just 10 days (slow in a hardcore's standards though) but ideally at 85 we just hope to run some heroics together and try to raid (at this point seeing the horde's activity I seriously doubt it, not sure why my mate seems very upbeat on it. I have 0 expectations =p)

So yeh see how you feel later and I guess plant your main here and if you're still bored level up a horde on the other side to see what happens lol (cheapest way to go) -- but if you play during the day and I don't get home until 7pm on most days I;m sure you'll catch up quick.

Minor note, I suck a ZG, but am fine in ZA, so forgive me if I shy away from these hcs =p ; never read the tacs for real but ZA bosses were managable with me as tank and a guild healer and 3 shit random dps, and on ZG, although I wasn't tank at the time, we kept wiping at the boss which spews a poison maze. So we never got to last boss (this was after a raid night, and people were tired, whom expected to clear it in 20 mins) and gave up.

I'll PM you my realid thing later

To stay on thread topic, as I've been a horde for 1.5 weeks now:

I hate ogrimmar. So many elevators/lifts. I NEED FLYING!!!!!*
I hate undercity, everything seems so hard to navigate*

*It's probably just a case of being unfamiliar but it's enough to be an annoyance at the moment =p

[LidenbokValour]

Okay then, speak to ya soon

Edit : Really sorry about the huge derail but just one last thing, will my quest progression get fucked up in the midst of a server hop?

[Meresgi]

Frost/Unholy 4 Pieces - Your critical strikes with melee abilities deal 15% additional damage as Fire damage over 4 sec.

Fuck, I barely crit as UH with melee attacks as haste/mastery are more important then crit. Great for Frost Dks who get KM procs I guess...

[The Stig]

no idea on quest progression hopping =/

brb gonna buy out all Volatile Fires =p

• Blood 2 Pieces - Your melee attacks cause Burning Blood on your target, which deals 800 Fire damage every 2 for 6 sec and causes your abilities to behave as if you had 2 diseases present on the target.

I'm considering Blood 2 Piece good for DPS. So far Shoulders have favourable DPS stats (like T11 DPS legs are good for tanks) I'm wondering if due to diminishing returns if losing 200~ rating on haste/critical really matters if i can reforge and gain some back anyway. The idea of not needing to apply diseases, assuming that there's a 100% chance the effect can land on your target, is hugely appealing (single target).

When the time comes I will obtain tank pieces first as usual as I'm main tank but would try to DPS with it to see the effect:

http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70951/e...houlderguards/
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/70952/e...gon-legguards/

Reforge the parry from Leg Guards.

All assuming I won't get 4 piece, ever, due to slow raid progression in a casual/sleepy/somewhat-bored people guild.

lol@Paladin/Warrior 2 set, in comparison to DKs

[Clemz]

In a situation where something would die well before the damage from your diseases would add up to a substantial amount, maybe, that bonus would suffer the same fate though. Not applying diseases is only going to save you 1 GCD thanks to outbreak, and then(as unholy, anyway) you're still going to be hitting festering strike so you don't waste runes, and to convert to death runes.

It may still be worthwhile as extra damage, but I don't see any reason to remove your own diseases from the target. They aren't amazing damage, but they are substantial on a fight of any decent length. The 2 piece DPS set bonus is incredibly lackluster though, and it would almost certainly beat that, and depending on how good off set pieces are, may beat those as well.

[Correction]

lol@Paladin/Warrior 2 set, in comparison to DKs

lol@any dps 2 set except DK, considering they require crits or resource-consuming attacks to proc for weak ass shit, where the DK set is on all melee hits and removes the need to put/refresh diseases on target. Fucking bullshit.

Fucking Rogue 4 set had better not pick stupid shit like hit/expertise from the 'at random' choices...

[Katlan]

Feral 4 set bonus is such trash for cat's. I don't know wtf they were thinking. It's a nice tanking bonus though

[Clemz]

lol@any dps 2 set except DK, considering they require crits or resource-consuming attacks to proc for weak ass shit, where the DK set is on all melee hits and removes the need to put/refresh diseases on target. Fucking bullshit.

Fucking Rogue 4 set had better not pick stupid shit like hit/expertise from the 'at random' choices...

The DK DPS 2 piece is garbage, adds 3 RP/5 seconds for the duration of horn of winter. The one he brought up was the tank 2 piece, which is significantly better than the DPS bonus. The hunter 2 and 4 piece should both be pretty good.

[aurik]

Healing 2P bonuses are less than they seem, they're based on base mana which is like 25k mp.

But its kinda funny how both rdruid bonuses will cause treeform to be supercharged, rolling lifeblooms everywhere for mass triple-pops and tons of free mana. And we'll probably regenerate on the order of 12k-15k mana just from riding the 2P bonus.

[Meresgi]

Healing 2P bonuses are less than they seem, they're based on base mana which is like 25k mp.

But its kinda funny how both rdruid bonuses will cause treeform to be supercharged, rolling lifeblooms everywhere for mass triple-pops and tons of free mana. And we'll probably regenerate on the order of 12k-15k mana just from riding the 2P bonus.

Which you know blizzard will realize a few weeks later and then nerf druids into the ground

[Meko]

I keep waiting to see the news where they nerf druid tanking again. I'm loving the 3 sec CD of swipe coupled with the damage buffs for it and Thrash. Makes grabbing packs in heroics a much simpler task.

[Correction]

I keep waiting to see the news where they nerf druid tanking again. I'm loving the 3 sec CD of swipe coupled with the damage buffs for it and Thrash. Makes grabbing packs in heroics a much simpler task.

This has been a badly needed buff for druid 5-man tanking forever.

[The Stig]

Jumped on my rogue for a random dungeon for some fun. (level 74)

DK
Priest
Mage
Paladin tank

first 2 pulls:

tank > NO DND!!!
DK > me?

3rd pull
tank > I said NO DND!!!!!
DK > who, me?

4th pull
<dk drops a DnD>
tank > stop using DnD! It's a tanking move designed to generate aggro!!!
me > Can you tell the mage to stop blizzarding as well then?

(DK did not have blood presence on)
At this point we ran the dungeon in peace but I was ready to eat him

[Correction]

I was about to say 'use tricks' then I realized y'all were 74.

So easy to forget when abilities are learned.

Complaint: Managing Cho'gall slimes with Earthbind Totem from a Resto Shaman as our only means of slowing them.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

[Meresgi]

So Blizzard made an announcement they fixed the issue where you teleport to a GY after coming out of a BG...

Ok I thought, that's cool, took a little bit but im glad..hop in game...and yet it's still happening.

[Tajin]

I was about to say 'use tricks' then I realized y'all were 74.

So easy to forget when abilities are learned.

Complaint: Managing Cho'gall slimes with Earthbind Totem from a Resto Shaman as our only means of slowing them.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

lol what fucked up compo you running?

[Correction]

lol what fucked up compo you running?

It's unideal. Our only dedicated tanks are both paladins. Holy priest/Resto Sham/Resto Druid healers, Fury War (no howl)/Frost DK (no chilblains)/Rogue melee, Fire Mage/Oomkin ranged.

We're probably going to rotate in a hunter alt and get at least one of howl/chilblains for next weeks runs, but that puts us out our resto shaman. Tiny tiny guild here.

[Positive]

Why didn't you (or someone in your guild) tell the DK or the Boomkin to change their spec around a little in order to slow?