Random Complaint Thread

**SamanosukeShiva** · 2012-11-10 18:24

Not really buffing, tbh I'm really glad they did it, it's not fun to have a fight with a strat centered around specific classes (another example is heroic spirit kings, if you dont have a priest, you're fucked). Some guilds intentionally have their DPS to purely attack the boss instead of the legs because they're saving the legs for rogues. That being said, Garalon is the most boring piece of shit fight in the whole tier and whoever made it should die in a fire.

**Plow** · 2012-11-10 18:38

honestly I prefer it to tank and spank while dodging shit that would be easy as fuck if latency didn't make it stupid

**Eanae** · 2012-11-11 00:54

Originally Posted by Plow

honestly I prefer it to tank and spank while dodging shit that would be easy as fuck if latency didn't make it stupid

I don't think any fight that makes 7 dps, 3 healers for 10 man more beneficial than using tanks is a good fight but as a tank without the gear for ret I'm a little bias.

**Plow** · 2012-11-11 01:09

I'm tank with 483 tank and 485 dps lol. I'm running pheromones, while tanking, using tank gear and a dps weapon.

We tried doing it with us as dps, in dps gear, etc., but it just wasn't nearly the gain that we lose by distracting people that can't do shit while moving (i.e. anyone but ele shaman or hunter, and we have no drood) running it.

I'm still thinking we may have to add more runners for heroic, not sure yet.

I can give you a little bit of advice: In order for tank running to work, the one with pheromones MUST take the lead, and the other has to be pretty much entirely focused on not running into him while still catching cleaves.

**Eanae** · 2012-11-11 01:28

We have our tanks run pharamones, and the shaman healer takes cleaves while the tank is out. It makes it cleaner for us. The kiting isn't the issue now it's the damage. We're hitting the enrage between 3 and 7% on average now. We're going to go again Monday before reset and try and have our monk healer be one of the carriers over the hunter to see if we can get enough damage out of it to kill it. With the cleave nerf we may not now.

**Clemz** · 2012-11-11 01:36

Was complaining to a friend that I needed to find a weekend raid group for my monk or DK that makes actual progression, and use the other for my guild that well, doesn't. Started healing for one group and went 6/6 MSV and 2/6 HoF in my first week. Then got asked to bring my DK back to Mal'ganis and DPS, they're about the same progression as the other group, possibly a little ahead, not sure if they got Garalon or not. Don't know what to do, they raid at the same time, I'd feel bad leaving the group I was healing for in a bind, but I'm really interested in getting back into 25m raiding. Does that count as a complaint?

**Plow** · 2012-11-11 02:12

Originally Posted by Eanae

We have our tanks run pharamones, and the shaman healer takes cleaves while the tank is out. It makes it cleaner for us.

I don't think you should do that, while running pheromones is easily the best time to build up vengeance and smack a bitch.

By "that" I mean having the tank runner skip the cleaves. Just have em in there doing some actual damage for a while.

**seph32** · 2012-11-11 22:13

God, I hate Elegon it's been weeks and have yet seen the 1-hander to drop still sporting TG when I should be SMF :/

**BadKarma** · 2012-11-11 23:09

Originally Posted by seph32

God, I hate Elegon it's been weeks and have yet seen the 1-hander to drop still sporting TG when I should be SMF :/

I havent seen the mace from will or wand from elegon drop yet

**The Stig** · 2012-11-12 04:18

So I made a char on Mortilox's guild/realm to leech a lil-teragsoca pet. Short of gold and no heirlooms, I jumped on my main to clear out Magister Terrace in a chance for a Pheonix pet I can sell for maybe 150g by caging it (I'm sure there are better pets, but that's the best I could think of at the time). Instead of the pet dropping, something dropped I didn't need (as usual)! lol -- this happened with the Azure Drake in Eye of Eternity too when I jumped in there to clear it for an easy 138jp weekly raid quest:

So .... 1/1 since a year ago when I got it!

**Plow** · 2012-11-12 06:30

Originally Posted by The Stig

So I made a char on Mortilox's guild/realm to leech a lil-teragsoca pet. Short of gold and no heirlooms, I jumped on my main to clear out Magister Terrace in a chance for a Pheonix pet I can sell for maybe 150g by caging it (I'm sure there are better pets, but that's the best I could think of at the time). Instead of the pet dropping, something dropped I didn't need (as usual)! lol -- this happened with the Azure Drake in Eye of Eternity too when I jumped in there to clear it for an easy 138jp weekly raid quest:

So .... 1/1 since a year ago when I got it!

if you need gold on a new server try for the 2 rares with pet drops in dread wastes, one of the pets is the only earth elemental pet and is pretty valuable, the other is some strider that's still worht a decent amount

**The Stig** · 2012-11-12 06:38

Ah thanks. I think I'll go try to get them for myself, but not to sell. I don't feel like camping. I'll fly over but that's about it.

I only need 1350g anyway it turns out (thought it was 1500g but as guild is level 25 there's the bartering I forgot about). I think I should have made 50g already... I put up 1 stack of copper and leather before bed for 25g a stack. I can go generate more easily. But I was just trying to be slightly lazy and speed it up a little hehe

**Meresgi** · 2012-11-13 11:36

Handful of people got kicked from guild due to MMR exploit, I honestly don't see the big deal though as this season was completely fucked from day 1. Blizz still hasnt made a comment on it at all even with all these teams at 5k rating RBG or at 3.8k 3s/5s with 21:90 W:L ratio.

**Aksannyi** · 2012-11-13 15:45

What was the exploit?

**Correction** · 2012-11-13 18:30

Originally Posted by Aksannyi

What was the exploit?

/afk out of an unfavorable 3v3 matchup > doesn't count as a loss. This makes win trading trivial.

**BadKarma** · 2012-11-13 23:38

Havent gotten a Sha item since September 27th sigh

**seph32** · 2012-11-14 00:24

Originally Posted by BadKarma

Havent gotten a Sha item since September 27th sigh

Haven't seen a single item from Lfr, sha and galleon.

**Korialstrasz** · 2012-11-14 01:13

Meanwhile, there are people in greens still with 2pc, while getting more shit from Sha.

**The Stig** · 2012-11-14 03:20

Yeh I'm fucking sick of seeing Wars, Plds and DKs, especially wars with 2 starshatters, and sha drops, doing 25k dps, where as I'm squatting at 60k DPS and unable to push more because I lack purples.

**Thuronn** · 2012-11-14 13:30

Originally Posted by BadKarma

Havent gotten a Sha item since September 27th sigh

The new loot system is the worst thing for RF since RF itself. People are starting to see how bad this is. Shit dps getting Weapon drops, people getting 2, even 3 items from a single run to really highlight those greens and blues they have.

I've gotten two pvp capes now from Sha, which I can't even trade to anyone else. This system in the long run is hurting more players than it is helping. Based on how it's been working for me at least it seems that there is no Gear Check when gear drops, it's just % chance at a random item.

I personally think there should be some sort of DPS/heal check that partially determines loot. You're pulling 20-30k dps on Elegon? No Drops. You're healing for 15k on the last boss of HOF? No drops.

This will encourage people to actually try in RF instead of just getting carried like the think they can do, which in many cases the wipes I've experienced in RF stem from these people who afk, are lazy, and expect others to pick up their slack.

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