Random Complaint Thread

**Eanae** · 2012-11-14 13:37

They need to let you choose what spec you can get gear for. I'd much prefer to run as Prot to get my off spec ret stuff rather than doing a shit 30k dps because my gear is trash.

**Aravil** · 2012-11-14 14:53

They really really need to let you trade items to other players. Maybe not give it to a specific player but tell the game "I don't want this, give it to someone else," and have it decide. I remember once in DS I got an Eye of Unmaking on my DK when I was already using a normal version of it, a system like this could prevent similar situations from happening.

**Plow** · 2012-11-14 21:15

The system is great, more people are getting more, and more useful loot.

Examples of bad luck don't outweigh the benefits.

I got a LFR starshatter this week, only drop I got. I already have the normal version.

Doesn't make the 2 pieces of useful dps gear I got last week any less useful, nor did the 1 piece I already had that I got last week as well.

**Correction** · 2012-11-14 21:19

If anything I wish I'd get something useful rather than a duplicate drop. Like if I already have all the loot a boss drops in LFR, then just give me a Treasures of the Vale-type sack instead of just gold.

**Plow** · 2012-11-14 21:22

Yeah, it would be nice if we could at least give away useless stuff, but as thoroughly proven, people will raid lfr hundreds of hours a week to whore that shit if there's any kind of vulnerability that allows them to gain anything from it at all.

**The Stig** · 2012-11-15 03:17

Also, they need to implement a Call-to-arms for healers... the amount of wait time for healers on the EU side at least is horrible.

**Thuronn** · 2012-11-15 03:23

Originally Posted by The Stig

Also, they need to implement a Call-to-arms for healers... the amount of wait time for healers on the EU side at least is horrible.

It is there but only available when there is a lack of healers queing. The reason why the wait time is so high is due to a surplus of healers and hence no goodies.

**Plow** · 2012-11-15 05:24

I think he's talking about lfr, which doesn't have CTA.

I have a solution that's much simpler, though:

Rebalance the healing so it only takes 3 healers.

At the current queue ratios if you halved the healer spots it would literally double the amount of LFR's that get going pretty much instantly.

**The Stig** · 2012-11-15 09:13

Yeh I mean LFR.

But say, that removes 50% of the potential damage done, won't that pretty much make some bosses (or everything) none trivial (i.e. a Blood DK can probably solo it all if we don't count enrage timers).

It's a good idea, but just thinking of the repurcussions. Or, place a buff to increase healing by 100% (this might spawn bad healers; or compromise and balance it both)

**Dryr** · 2012-11-15 15:03

I would go heals in lfr, but since the expansion, Pld seem to be severely gimped on raid healing (maybe that's one reason why there is such a shortage? One of the most popular classes had a spec gimped to make room for monks?). They used to be able to spam their only aoe heal, now its weaker and costs more plus people are too spread out on the new lfr bosses for it to be worth anything. No hots, so just single target healing for garbage outside of speccing selfless healer and getting one great crit every 20 seconds or so.

**Aravil** · 2012-11-15 15:36

Totally not my experience. PvP 4P, Divine Purpose, and Eternal Flame is a really powerful combo that really helps with group healing in spread out conditions.

**Plow** · 2012-11-15 19:02

Pally heals are fucking amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing in panda. Probably better than any time since beacon on jormungars.

**Dryr** · 2012-11-15 21:22

gdi, I hate to say it, but there are all the sudden too many LFR...

The low ilvl ones offer little chance of upgrade, but the high ilvl ones have massive queue times...

The queue pops are getting too diffused and there is no option to queue for more than one at a time, a fix is needed.

**Dryr** · 2012-11-15 21:26

Originally Posted by Aravil

Totally not my experience. PvP 4P, Divine Purpose, and Eternal Flame is a really powerful combo that really helps with group healing in spread out conditions.

HF = a 2x druid hot after you get 3x holy charges over about 12 sec and you lose a free instant heal to use it. DP is only a 1/4 chance at an instant repeat. Selfless healer = up to 150k instant heal (on my gimp geared holy spec) every 20 sec.

The point is, a single-target healer is gimp compared to all the others with hots and more affordable aoe spells that don't require stacking to be worth anything.

**Plow** · 2012-11-16 00:06

Originally Posted by Dryr

gdi, I hate to say it, but there are all the sudden too many LFR...

The low ilvl ones offer little chance of upgrade, but the high ilvl ones have massive queue times...

The queue pops are getting too diffused and there is no option to queue for more than one at a time, a fix is needed.

queue lfr > queue dungeon/bg/scenario/whatever > do dungeon > get lfr pop the instant it ends

Originally Posted by Dryr

HF = a 2x druid hot after you get 3x holy charges over about 12 sec. DP is only a 1/4 chance at an instant repeat. Divine healer = up to 150k instant heal (on my gimp geared holy spec) every 20 sec.

The point is, a single-target healer is gimp compared to all the others with hots and more affordable aoe spells that don't require stacking to be worth anything.

Pallies are utterly ridiculous on:

Protectors: 9 of the to 10 world parses
Sha: 5 of 10
Vizier: 3 of 5
Blade lord: 2 of 3
Wind lord: 2 of 4
Amber shaper: 4 of 10, 5 others are monk
Mogushan heroics: top parse on the first 3... 5 of the top 6 on spirit kings, and the only non-monk ranks on elegon/will.

Again, pally are amazing right now. And the vast majority of ranks that aren't pallies are monks. Shaman and druids basically don't exist on the overall ranks, and priests make rare and specific appearances.

**Jer** · 2012-11-17 15:00

Only one person from the raid team came back for MoP, so the only raids that I've been doing are pugs and LFR, but Holy Plds are ridiculous I'm usually at the top or near it next to a monk. The first raid or two I was a little lost, since I was used to just spam casting HR forever and never running out of mana, but once getting into the groove it's still great.

**The Stig** · 2012-11-17 19:38

So I first went into a 2/3 LFR group, and 1 shot the boss on a saturday night (how rare!)
Then requeued for a 0/3 group to do first 2 bosses, and since the group was going so well (no drops so far) I stayed to do the last boss to collect extra VP.
Then this happens:

I kinda wished it didn't come up at all

**Plow** · 2012-11-17 19:45

that thing drops allllllllll the time on normal, I have one, our pally healer has one, and we've sharded 2

**The Stig** · 2012-11-17 19:51

Ah we're not even that far yet. I think they were wiping on Elegon for 3 hours the other night (which I couldn't make due to work). So it would've been cool to grab one, as DKs like haste currently!

But yeh I wished that the system just detected you can't loot and doesn't pop up a window at all lol. It's a tease/only serves to make people rage at it!

**Plow** · 2012-11-17 20:08

yeah that is kinda dumb for it to tease you like that

if it makes you feel any better, as dual wield you'd be reforging the haste to expertise anyway >.>

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