Random Complaint Thread

[Plow]

The amount you get healed by Ardent Defender is based on Defense and Health. I know when running in my Prot PvP gear which is all Gladiator's Scaled my AD only pops for around 1000 Health because I have 0 extra Defense in that gear. So unless a holy paladin is stacking Defense for some reason, it doesn't heal much.

I actually didn't notice that.


Even still, don't forget that there's more to AD than just the cheat death. With a typical healing pally, if you have them at 30% hp, they're at like 6.5k, and if they don't have bubble, they have nothing left to survive (in arenas). It's basically game over at that point, if you're not getting peeled hard the pally is pretty much dead. With a protholy pally, when you get them to 30%, you've got 10k hp to go through, with 30% raw damage reduction along with resil and high armor.


From what I've been seeing, what makes priest healers so strong these days is the exact same thing: you get them low, but they're not remotely close to dead yet.


Also, @ Odon, Protholy is pretty crazy alongside a priest or a druid in a 2 healer setup, even with a lock as the dd these days. The funny part is it's the offensive tools that make it viable, just like we've always said, lack of offensive tools is what's always held holy paladin back when the effects of bubble are minimized.

[Gulkeeva]

Well the problem is, they just won't die at low hp, flash of light for over 6K's with aimed shot up, and my chimera shot goes from critting 7-8K's with sting proc of 2-4K+ down to about 3.5K chimera with 1-2K sting.

and through their 3 lives, can kill you with their holy damage spells because you can't burn down their 28-30k hp+ 1vs1. I have a easier time killing 50K hp warrior buffed in a BG that can last stand for 70-80K hp being healed then a prot/holy pally

[Odon]

@Plow I dunno man, when we play teams with protholy healers in 3s we just destroy his DPS, he can't heal through our damage. We just hit 2.1k and hardly see any protholys anyway tho.

[Guitarman]

I hate when people throw guild invites or charter signage in my face without a word. No I don't want to join your shitty guild, if you see someone walking around with two pieces of account gear, it's an alt, just fuck off.

[[Cookies]]

I hate when people throw guild invites or charter signage in my face without a word. No I don't want to join your shitty guild, if you see someone walking around with two pieces of account gear, it's an alt, just fuck off.

This pisses me the fuck off when i'm leveling an alt. Some days I get 3+ invites with not even a whisper...

And when they do whisper you it's something like "wanna join ma lvling guild". It makes me rage.

[Correction]

Same DK getting tail swiped on two consecutive Ony25 attempts into the whelp caves.

Inexperienced healers hugging their add tanks during P2.

Main Tank who charges into Ony without any cooldowns popped to pull her.

Going to be a long night.

[Keria]

BG queue changes, omg. Was planning to set aside a few days and just spam BGs for the 2 war mounts I still need / stormpike ram, but like... this BG is so imbalanced faction wise that BGs never seem to start, I've been in AV queue 8 hours, previous time was ~20mins for a 16 ally: 40 horde massacre fest, but 1 mark > 0 ><

[Gulkeeva]

I miss going into av with the Lv 71+ people, sitting behind ballinda whatever building and 1 shotting every ally that came by was so fun, or sitting at a gy just killing them as they came out /pileofbodies

Also, I hate how most every week in heroic toc, its 90% plate drops... always plate... were de'ing most of it now...

[Kaylia]

I miss going into av with the Lv 71+ people, sitting behind ballinda whatever building and 1 shotting every ally that came by was so fun, or sitting at a gy just killing them as they came out /pileofbodies

Also, I hate how most every week in heroic toc, its 90% plate drops... always plate... were de'ing most of it now...

Being a Paladin, I can't complain, but it does feel like I'm having it easy for loot (everywhere in the game, not a specific instance)

[Falaras]

What is the deal with pugs and 25 mans, its like when you switch it to 25 man version everyone just becomes retarded. Pretty much given up on a new Shield/Weapon because getting Last Laugh, Wall of Terror, Titanguard, or the Icehowl shield from pugs is impossible on my server.

[Blarg]

I find 25's more reliable since if you get 2 retards who die in a 10 man it's a big chuck of lost whatever their role was but you can spare 5 or more retards in 25's

[Falaras]

That's what I don't understand, they should be, but in 10 mans I always full clear Naxx/ToC/Ony and get to Mimiron + do some Hard Modes with pugs. With 25 man pugs I've never downed Malygos, killed KT, got to Anub, or even got past Ignis.

[Lexa]

Take one raid leader, who's strict, direct, fair, a really cool dude but very no-nonsense during raids.

Now take one non-guildie friend who's talented, fun, but has a bad temper and really hates being "bossed around."

Add a pug, and one Lexa in the middle, and stir violently until head explodes.

[Correction]

That's what I don't understand, they should be, but in 10 mans I always full clear Naxx/ToC/Ony and get to Mimiron + do some Hard Modes with pugs. With 25 man pugs I've never downed Malygos, killed KT, got to Anub, or even got past Ignis.

I've pugged my way through Onyxia 25, most of Ulduar content and all of the tier content below it. You just have to make friends with raid leaders with small guilds who fill in roster gaps with pugs. I'm not even a tank/healer.

[Kurokikaze]

/rant

This game is too easy. Hasn't been a month since I've reactivated and I went from Naxx 10 geared to ready for Icecrown.

[Correction]

/rant

This game is too easy. Hasn't been a month since I've reactivated and I went from Naxx 10 geared to ready for 10 man, regular difficulty Icecrown.

Fixed that for ya.

[Guitarman]

cant find any of these new pets that were supposedly added in this patch. fawk!

[Plow]

Fixed that for ya.

I've not seen his armory, but I've been back exactly a month from before Ulduar, and I'm fine for togc25, as a tank. Pretty sure even my ret gear would be good enough for 10 man easy mode IC. We'll see, though.

[Dezzimal]

Tradechat is horrible at 10man onyxia.

[Correction]

Tradechat is horrible at 10man onyxia.

I doubted those who said pugging Ony10 was worse than Ony25, I stand before all a chastised man.

Every pull was fine until phase 2 but neither tanks nor healers knew where to position with Guardians up, and nova would hit a healer or cleave would hit folks AOEing whelps. 3 bullshit wipes like that later and the MT hearthed out. Yay 21 gold spent teaching others how to stay out of AOE.