Max Payne 3

[Arnwulf]

You are totally right, MGS4 had a horrible and linear Story because of its online capabilities.

Never played it, I'm not really into the MGS series, most likely because I suck at them lol. I heard all the stories are good though so I get that you're using sarcasm. I don't know though, I just feel that more often than not, online play is used to allow them to slack on the single player stuff in a game.

[Shojin]

Never played it, I'm not really into the MGS series, most likely because I suck at them lol. I heard all the stories are good though so I get that you're using sarcasm. I don't know though, I just feel that more often than not, online play is used to allow them to slack on the single player stuff in a game.

Depends. Some developers don't even do the multi-player part of the game, and hire other companies to work on the multiplayer part of the game. A good example of this would be Bioshock 2, a lot of people are worried that the single player story won't be as good as the first because of the tacked-on multiplayer, until they announced 2k aren't even working on that. But I know what you are talking about, but I don't think it has anything to do with the multiplayer, it's more to do with the shitty developer.

Look at CoD4: Modern Warfare. Amazing single player story line, and has one of the best multiplayer-online systems I've seen in a console FPS.

[SquireStrat]

Shojin, your avatar creeps me out.

[Tempyst]

I was kind of hoping to see the return of Max Payne 1 constipated Max

[Null]

I've never seen a drug addict get stronger.

[Arachna]

I'll get it but I'm not sold on his new look. I'm half expecting the plot to revolve him getting drunk and forgetting where he left the keys to his trailer.

No source for the following, I found it posted on another forum apparently from GI magazine, take it with a grain of salt if you want:

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The bald, bearded man on the cover bears little resemblance to the character we followed through two successful games. He's ages considerable since the tragic events of Max Payne 2, with a scarred ace and a thicker build. If not for the logo on the cover, it would be hard to recognize Max at all. Clearly, Rockstar Games, which is developing the game in-house for the first time since purchasing the rights from series creator Remedy, is not averse to taking chances with the franchise. "It's a tricky thing, because you're taking this beloved franchise that we didn't do originally," comments Rockstar art director Rob Nelson. "You have to maintain the elements of it that are special and that people remember, but you also have to evolve. We're not Remedy, but we have a lot of respect for what they did.

We're definitely looking back and trying to maintain every element that clicked with people eight or nine years ago and make it have the same impact now." It's a difficult balancing act. How do you create a game that both respects the history of the franchise and creates a new world that feeels fresh to gamers in 2009? "We're used to having franchises that people expect a lot from and have a lot of pressures attached to them," Nelson sales.
We've learned to go with our gut and trust our instincts...we wanted to challenge ourselves." At Rockstar's headquarters in New York, located in the hip SoHo district, we witnessed a world-exclusive first look at the game in action. If you expected a by-the-numbers sequel, prepare to be surprised. The third chapter of the Max Payne saga takes our hero places that he's never gone before, while at the same time keeping an eye towards maintaining and improving the stylish gunplay that made his reputation. Like most Rockstar games, it's clearly a labor of love (and just a little bit of mania).

The Urban Jungle

More than any other publisher, Rockstar's games depend on a real sense of place and culture. Whether it's Liberty City's dense metropolis, Bully's bucolic school campus, or the arid desert of the upcoming Red Dead Redemption, the main characters in Rockstar games are often reflective of the setting itself. The company is known for creating worlds so immersive and complex they seem as real as our own hometown - and a good deal more exciting. The dark, damp New York setting and atmosphere of classic film noir marked the first two Max Payne titles, a cinematic style defined by films like The Maltese Falcon and A touch of Evil. Their graphic novel style cut scenes and dark scripts created a sense of foreboding and drama rare for the day. However, the team as Rockstar Vancouver is embracing a new, more contemporary setting for its grim crime take: Sao Paulo, Brazil, a sprawling Latin American megalopolis boasting a population of over 20 million people. "If you take a look at films like City of God and Elite Squad - there's some really nice intense situations happening down there," says Rockstar's VP of development Jeronimo Berrera.

"The setting is so ripe with things for us to play off of." Sao Paulo's ghettos, known as favelas in the native Portuguese, are some of the most dangerous in the world. In addition to drug trafficking, one of the city's most notorious gangs, the Primero Comanda da Capital, controls huge swaths of the city and has organized large-scale prison riots, robberies, and high-profile kidnappings since its formation in 1993.Combine the city's notoriously corrupt police forces with the sobering statistic that one out of every 75 citizens is carrying a gun and it's little wonder that the number one cause of death for young people in Sao Paulo is murder. Sao Paulo demonstrates all extremes of the human condition, making it a perfect setting for a Max Payne take of crime, violence, and redemption. "You'll see a high-rise building with a multi-million dollar penthouse and at the base is literally shanties," Berrera recalls. "Sao Paulo has the greatest number of heliports on top on buildings of any city in the world. For the rich, it's safest to travel. by air. There are a lot of private security forces." As always, Rockstar took tremendous strides in researching Sao Paulo. More than 10 staffers traveled to the city tot take reference photos, gather information, and generally soak up what they refer to as the "vibe" of the city. They even took the unprecedented step to bringing down equipment to perform 3D scans to make sure their pedestrian and enemy models were authentic.

"We shipped down all this 3D scanning equipment, had all sorts of problems with customs," Nelson recalls. "We scanned hundreds of people. We worked with a casting agent. We told them what we wanted and they sent us hundreds and hundreds of images. The people came in and just brought their own clothes usually and we scanned them." For Berrera, this attention to detail separates Rockstar's games from the competition. "It's the real deal," he says. "It's about bringing all these elements together - the technology, research , the storytelling. That's why our games feel right and look right. There's a legitimacy there when you're actually working with the people in the favelas and you're down there and doing research."

A New Kind of Noir

This begs the question: What is Max Payne, the embattled former NYPD detective, doing in Sao Paulo? As with any good noir, the truth is hard to discern. Rockstar is cagey when it comes to revealing spoilers, but here is what we do know.

Haunted by the tragic events of Max Payne 2, our hero falls into disrepute. Alcoholism and an addiction to painkillers (and addiction he still battles with, judging by the HUD on the build of the game we saw) have reduced him to a broken man. Cut loose from the NYPD, Payne spent the last 12 years of his life in a frightful downward spiral. In speaking about the game, Rockstar refers to the time period as Max's "missing years." Whether the game reveals what happened during the time is unknown, but it's clear that this period has taken a tremendous toll on our hero both mentally and physically. "Rock bottom" is what alcoholics call the point at which your life cannot get any worse. Max hits rock bottom in Sao Paulo, a city he moved to in order to escape the demons of his life in New York. Through some somewhat disreputable connections, he's taken work in the "private security" sector of one of the city's wealthiest families. What on the job, he is drawn into the dark underworld of Sao Paulo and becomes involved in a series of events that could cost him the last thing he has left: his life. At first it's strange to see this new Max, heavily muscled with a beard and a shaven head, trudging though the labyrinth alleys of Sao Paulo.

It's certainly a world away from the rain-soaked streets of New York City. Still, the team at Rockstar felt the setting of the game is still true to the noir tenets that helped make the first two games so memorable. "Some people say, "Max is a noir game and it has to be black and white and in New York," Berrera says. "but noir is a style not necessarily a place and a color scheme. Noir is not necessarily saxophones and big dark shadows. It's looking at a world in a bleak way. That's what we're doing. It's more contemporary."

Since Max is older, the team decided against using voice actor James McCaffrey again. Instead, they plan on casting a new voice actor who can better express the toll that the years have taken on the protagonist. In recent Rockstar fashion, don't expect a big Hollywood name, but, as Nelson suggests, "We're good at [casting]." No matter the actor, Max's trademark internal monologues, which Rockstar sees as the core to the franchise, will be int he game." I can voice over some Max Payne stuff, "jokes Berrera, intoning in a mock serious voice, " I was desperate for some bullets, like the desperation of a child." For Rockstar, this new setting transposes much of the franchise's trademark grittiness into a fresh new environment. "All the Max Payne themes will remain intact - manipulation, betrayal, and the still that really made Max Payne, " Nelson claims. "Weill there be nighttime levels in the rain? Probably, but level after level of that stuff would get old, so we thought it would be interesting to put him in this environment.

You have the very rich living with the very poor, and that creates a lot of tension." More importantly, the variety and density of Sao Paulo makes the perfect setting for the varied and intense game play. Watching Max run through a favela shantytown with enemies popping up from every makeshift doorway or lopsided rooftop, it's clear that the levels provide the intrigue and necessary for the series' trademark blazing gunplay." "The favelas are like little mazes," Barrera says. "It's not lie it's a one-on-one replica, but we went down there and mapped out different areas. [We] looked at the structures and how they are built and said, "Oh, this would be fun." Ultimately, we're building this stuff so its fun in a Max Payne shooter, so it's got to have certain elements to make it fun to play. I don't think we would set the whole thing in the favelas, either; we want to give a lot of variety. Every compelling location we could find in the city we are going to use."

The Way of the Gun

Whatever the setting, the core of the Max Payne experience rests with the graceful, slow-motion gunplay that trilled gamers upon the release of the first title. The game's Bullet Time mechanic was an innovative and addictive addition to the shooter genre, winning the game accolades from fan and critics alike. However, the feature was so successful that it presents a distinct challenge for the team. In the eight years since the release of the original, slow-motion "focus" modes have become a standard of the third-person genre, present in literally dozens of successful games. How can Bullet Time evolve part its imitators without losing what made it so fun in the first place? Rockstar Vancouver plans to solve this problem the only way they know how: with a near obsessive commitment to making sure that Max Payne 3's game play feels and looks exactly right. "We're going to have Bullet Time because it's Max Payne," Barrera states. 'The bigger question, since there have been so many clones of the third-person shooter with Bullet Time is "How do we get Max back on the throne?' For us, it's a combination of things. We're going to have Bullet Time, so it's going to be slow. Now you're going to have to see all the nice little nuances that these machines can do." The team is using the company's RAGE engine, coupled with some NaturalEmotion Euphoria animation technology that was successfully utilized in GTA IV. By blending motion-capture with NaturalEmotion's procedural animations, the team has created a game that both looks and feels remarkably realistic. As you watch the game, the attention to detail is remarkable.

If Max jumps sideways towards a create (which is fully destructible like many of the objects the environment [that is not a typo by me]) you'll see his hand reach down to support his weight so he can vault over it. When he lands, you'll feel a sensation of Max's new bulk as he hits the dirt. The animation system is clearly importatnt to the team. During our interview, Rob Nelson was on the feet, miming jumps left and right with your imaginary pistols drawn, at one point crouching behind the couch to demonstrate the game's new cover system. Yes, Max Payne 3 does feature cover, but Rockstar is quick to point out that its merely another option for the player, not the focus of the game. "The way that you would experience this world isn't just 'Take cover, shoot, and move to the next piece of cover,'" Nelson says. "We want to make the experience very detailed. It's similar to GTA IV. We could have gone bigger, but it was decided to go with more density. We're focusing the attention on every little motion he makes." Another source of cover comes in the form of human shields, which you can take at any time. The team is working hard on this mechanic, making sure that Max can target and move effectively while taking a hostage.

"We took all the elements of the traditional Max and expended it out so the game becomes gun ballet, or 'gun-fu', or whatever you want to call it," Barrera interjects. "We have cover in the game but you don't have to use it. You can approach the levels however you want to approach them. The AI will have scripts that run to set-up events, but they also have their own brains, so it's a little bit different each time." While the core Bullet Time mechanics are being refined to present an even more fluid game play package, the team is also using slow-motion techniques in new ways, internally called "Environmental Bullet Time." Basically, these moments are similar to the quick-time events that occur in many third-person action games, but with a difference.

The player has full control at all times, and is able to use the slowed down tempo of Bullet Time to pull off a maneuver that would be too difficult at full speed. One example Rockstar revealed occurs in the favela. After vaulting over a wall, Max slides down a tin roof, artfully picking off enemies in each side as he descends. While Rockstar says most of the game is still primarily focused on gunplay, Barrera did hint at more "surprises" in store for players in the form of special set pieces.

Putting The Pieces Together

While thre is still much we don't know about the team, seeing the game in action made us hopeful that the finished product will live up to both the standards of the series and Rockstar Games in general. In this more focused game design, the RAGE engine is capable of a remarkable amount of detail. Seeing Max walk through a series of shantytown alleys, it's clear why Rockstar was so adamant that Sao Paulo was the only place to tell this new chapter in the saga. The buildings are in various states of decay. We observe crumbling bricks linked together with rusted aluminum and rotting wood. The precarious structures tower two and three stories above the street, providing innumerable hiding sports for the enemies that pop out of every turn. While it's by no stretch an open world game, Max does have the ability to climb up and down shorter walls, which allows you to take alternate routes of attack as in Rockstar Vancouver's The Warriors.

As Max dispatches enemies with arching slow-motion dives, you notice little details like the shower of shells ejecting from his weapon and the slow back and forth of the pistol's firing mechanism. As we hit a foe a story above us, his knees buckle on the ledge before he swan dives toward the group. At key moments, the game enters into a striking "Bullet Cam" mode, where the viewing angle whips around and we follow the bullet up close as it penetrates an enemy's arm. After a dive, the game even accounts for Max's realistic movement on the group. Instead of magically popping up, you can fire with one hand and Max props himself up with another, rotating his trunk around to target an anatomy on the other side. This ability to shoot from the group can be a lifesaver in many cases. You can actually revive yourself from a kill shot by getting off one accurate bullet just as the screen fades to black around you. If your last shot hits your murderer, you'll receive an adrenaline boost to survive.

While all the details help add a sense of place and realism to the game, the strengths of Max Payne 3 are still those that helped carry the first two entries to success. It's a no-holds-barred shooter that retains a laser-like focus on gunplay. So far, the game seems to have this crucial element nearly perfected. "The first thing was, let's make the shooting fun and the reactions fun," Barrera says. "We wanted that core mechanic to be solid from day one.
You don't want a shooter where it's not satisfying. Every gunshot needs to [feel right] - whether you're hitting a guy or not. Max communicates to the world via his weapons, so you want to be able to have the craziest reactions. You want it to seem like you're really in the world. if a guy is running from you and you shoot him in the foot, you want him to react in the proper way. If you're shooting a guy with a machine gun, you want him to get riddled with bullets and shake." In many ways, Max Payne 3 typifies Rockstar's approach to game making. by combining ultra-violent action with dark, real world themes, the developers hope to make a game that's as compelling as the gritty cult films that the company draws inspiration from.

Though he's been missing in action for years, Max Payne is still very much a part of Rockstar's vision for gaming. Despite Max's weathered appearance and the story's exotic locale, Barrera hopes that the game can live up to the dramatic, visceral thrills of the original games. "It's part of the evolution," he observes. "In a lot of people's memories, Max Payne, at the time it came out, was the nearest thing we had to art in games. It was technically awesome. It was fun to play. The story was compelling, and the presentation was above what anyone else was doing. So we have to work on those core elements. [But] Max has moved on. This is a new environment and the ongoing of his life.

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Couple of brief things I can be bothered to point out:

- You can actually revive yourself from a kill shot by getting off one accurate bullet just as the screen fades to black around you. If your last shot hits your murderer, you'll receive an adrenaline boost to survive.

- Since Max is older, the team decided against using voice actor James McCaffrey again. Instead, they plan on casting a new voice actor who can better express the toll that the years have taken on the protagonist.

- Haunted by the tragic events of Max Payne 2, our hero falls into disrepute. Alcoholism and an addiction to painkillers (and addiction he still battles with, judging by the HUD on the build of the game we saw) have reduced him to a broken man. Cut loose from the NYPD, Payne spent the last 12 years of his life in a frightful downward spiral. In speaking about the game, Rockstar refers to the time period as Max's "missing years." Whether the game reveals what happened during the time is unknown, but it's clear that this period has taken a tremendous toll on our hero both mentally and physically. "Rock bottom" is what alcoholics call the point at which your life cannot get any worse. Max hits rock bottom in Sao Paulo, a city he moved to in order to escape the demons of his life in New York. Through some somewhat disreputable connections, he's taken work in the "private security" sector of one of the city's wealthiest families. What on the job, he is drawn into the dark underworld of Sao Paulo and becomes involved in a series of events that could cost him the last thing he has left: his life. At first it's strange to see this new Max, heavily muscled with a beard and a shaven head, trudging though the labyrinth alleys of Sao Paulo.

[Takedown3]

the more i think about it the more fail i see coming from this

[Epical]

Fuck all you guys, this looks awesome. Can't wait to play it.

[Insanecyclone]

Fuck all you guys, this looks awesome. Can't wait to play it.

What he said. Reading through the new Game Informer now and it looks like it'll be great but opinions can change by release.

[Dak Rey]

- You can actually revive yourself from a kill shot by getting off one accurate bullet just as the screen fades to black around you. If your last shot hits your murderer, you'll receive an adrenaline boost to survive.

Provided that this is hard enough to pull off so that it can't be exploited, it could be pretty nice. If they make it too easy though, I can see myself just walking into a room not caring about getting shit because I can just pull off enough shots to constantly revive myself.

[Null]

Got the mag today...I always keep them in my bathroom and I think the cover will be fitting for when I run out of TP.

[kuronosan]

They really need to stop turning our heroes into bald-headed, muscle-bound psycho addicts. They already did it with McClane, they already have been doing it with all the FPS shooters in the last year (especially in Crysis with Psycho), and now they're doing it to Max Payne.

On top of that, they're changing voice actors. This is going to either be a) absolutely awesome because of RockStar's design or b) absolutely awful because they're changing so much that it won't be Max Payne anymore. They better not get rid of graphic novels.

This may end up going the way of Resident Evil where it ceases to be a noir-film (survival-horror) style and becomes an action game with no compelling mystery.

[antihero]

Despite them seemingly butchering the storyline by fastforwarding so far, MP1 and MP2 were two of my favorite games of all-time, and seeing this advertised makes me want to go back and play them again. Anyone else stoked for this, if it ever gets released? I think they've pushed it 2 or 3 times now I miss bullet time so much, I can't wait

http://pc.ign.com/articles/995/995261p1.html

[Lucavi]

He needs to have his diarrhea face from the first one, and he needs Bairds hair from GoW 2.

For all of you that are sick of bald protagonists, just check out the sweet head of hair on Baird. Cid Highwind, fo realz.

[6souls]

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[shidobu]

Yup
time to start poppin pills again.

[kuronosan]

Okay, officially confused.

[Kaisha]

Heir today, gone tomorrow?

[NynJa]

First pic in the series looks exactly like Charlie Sheen...?

[shidobu]

First pic in the series looks exactly like Charlie Sheen...?

think you might wanna put that crack pipe down already. To much winning for you can be a bad thing.