Fapworthy WS, SC, or MB damage III: I critted both hits.

[Tulun]

Not many, but a lot of people still do Dynamis, so the AF2 helm -is- a reasonable replacement for O-Hat for SAM Penta.

Hakutaku doesn't take all that much to kill, tho. Sure you could take a party of 6 and finish him off np.

[Dooom]

There's no prerequisite for getting a Brutal earring for 75 ancient beastcoins is there? Example, finishing CoP

Just need Sea access (mission 8-1).

[Kipling]

You need access to sea (8-1 I think?) Before she can accept coins iirc. So you need Limbus access.

[StevenW]

Damn, that's going to take a while... I'm on 4-3.

[Andradi]

Is that a true 5-hit? Doesn't look like it. That will be your #1 improvement. If you need more STP and lack items like Rajas/Brutal, look into a Rose strap.

Don't see why you'd ever worry about a 'true' x-hit for a polearm SAM, you're only ever gonna use penta which gives you a bit more leniency with regards to store TP gear. I'm gonna assume no usukane anything because it's probably a bit out of reach atm.

Assuming a 480 Delay polearm with maxed sTP merits:

If you want to assume 4/5 hits of penta you can be pretty lenient. You need roughly 13 sTP from gear which can be made up with:

Rajas/Brutal/Rose/Neuvo with sTP

with no Rajas you can swap in Hachiman feet. Swap Rose strap and AMK body for Hachi hands if those are unavailable.

If you want to assume a more forgiving 3/5, you can need to pick up another 3 sTP for roughly 15 total. I'd say:

Rajas/Hachi Hands/Rose Strap, swapping the nevuo for a haub is a good bet here. Again, swap rajas for hachi feet in the short term. Since you only need 3 sTP from the Rajas or Hachi feet, you can substitute that for echporia/atilla/chiv combo.

These numbers should be accurate, assuming you don't WS in far fewer sTP than you TP in.

Other easy places to pick up points of store TP with relatively small sacrifices:

Chiv Chain: 1 stp
Ecphoria Ring: 1 stp
Atilla Earring: 1 stp, can be augmented nicely, I hear.
Askar Body: 5 stp (I'm always hesitant about this, you can get store TP elsewhere and the accuracy loss is a big hit. I wouldn't really use it on anything but DRG or Amano SAM, rose strap+haub more or less obsoletes this for most intents and purposes.)

I wish DRK had such diverse sTP options.

[StevenW]

My Attila's Earring got +2 rng attk -.-

But those little pieces you recommended are what I use to help keep a 6hit with gk and still having haste on legs/feet, I use hachiman hands, ecphoria ring, chiv chain, and attila's earring with full stp merits, for a total of 21 store tp from gear/merits. Exact amount for 6hit iirc

[Dowzer]

Don't see why you'd ever worry about a 'true' x-hit for a polearm SAM, you're only ever gonna use penta which gives you a bit more leniency with regards to store TP gear.

Feather tickle.

[Andradi]

Feather tickle.

Fuck!

OK, a true 5-hit needs 19 sTP from gear. A store TP Neuvo, or hachi feet can be added to the 3/5 build to make this up.

... I hate that move.

[Deimos]

I see. Under your circumstances then, the Kupo mini-expansion's reward would be both #1: better than O-Hat and Saotome Kabuto; and #2: easier to get. Your choice is clear.

Even Hachiman headpiece is better than a Wyvern Helm, until one of those other options (Optical Hat, Kupo hat, Hissho, Saotome) becomes possible . It's really important to cap accuracy on Penta, having your accuracy be even a little below cap seriously impacts your chance of landing all 5 hits.

With capped accuracy (95%), your chance of landing all 5 hits is a little over 77%. If your accuracy drops to even 90%, your chance of a full Penta is now only 59%.

[StevenW]

Would you consider 5 hit with only 8% haste better than 6hit with 17% haste?

Just curious

[Andradi]

Would you consider 5 hit with only 8% haste better than 6hit with 17% haste?

Just curious

It depends on how much haste you have beforehand. 6-hit -> 5-hit is a simple 20% increase in weaponskill frequency, so total increase depends on your TP:WS ratio. For a 30:70 split it's a 14% increase.

With 8% from gear, Spell + 2xMarch 9% haste increase is approximately a 24% increase. With hasso as well it's more like 30%. (Now I have to go and make a program to work this out with my graphic calculator :/)


If you're dropping that much haste it's not actually going to be better, but I honestly have no idea how you're dropping so much. Dusk/ASA/Fuma for Hachi/JSE/Hachi or something?

[StevenW]

It depends on how much haste you have beforehand. 6-hit -> 5-hit is a simple 20% increase in weaponskill frequency, so total increase depends on your TP:WS ratio. For a 30:70 split it's a 14% increase.

With 8% from gear, Spell + 2xMarch 9% haste increase is approximately a 24% increase. With hasso as well it's more like 30%. (Now I have to go and make a program to work this out with my graphic calculator :/)


If you're dropping that much haste it's not actually going to be better, but I honestly have no idea how you're dropping so much. Dusk/ASA/Fuma for Hachi/JSE/Hachi or something?

Shinimusha Haidate, Hachiman hands/feet is 19 store tp, so would lose 9% haste from fuma/asa legs/dusk gloves

[ZhiGaruda]

Shinimusha Haidate, Hachiman hands/feet is 19 store tp, so would lose 9% haste from fuma/asa legs/dusk gloves

Scratch the idea until you get a Rajas.

[Wolfknight]

Legs are Hydra cuisses, worn for the +2 DEX and 3 acc, couldn't really get anything else suitable for that slot.

Askar Dirs are nice penta piece til byakko/shura/usukane for sam.

Also I am wondering what augments are your ACP body to not use it here.

[StevenW]

Askar Dirs are nice penta piece til byakko/shura/usukane for sam.

Also I am wondering what augments are your ACP body to not use it here.

My ACP body was made for pld, fast cast/enmity so right now it's just a /nin casting piece.

*sigh* On another note, I just camped belladonna, fucking hit voke 3 times before someone else somehow claimed it... Gotta love that. It was a full usukane mnk too, what the fuck does he need the belt for... [/rage]

[Andradi]

Asuran fists I'd suspect.

[Drac]

I feel the need to point out that on Stephano's last parse with the relic war he had a 100k headstart on the war and the war caught up to him.

[Rida]

Someone prolly said this but isnt the ZNM head piece
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=16152
the best SAM Pent piece? as I remember isnt too hard to get?


edit ~~ nvm Uryuu said it just not the name

[StevenW]

I feel the need to point out that on Stephano's last parse with the relic war he had a 100k headstart on the war and the war caught up to him.

Pssshhhh no lol

[Tharen]

Someone prolly said this but isnt the ZNM head piece
http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=16152
the best SAM Pent piece? as I remember isnt too hard to get?


edit ~~ nvm Uryuu said it just not the name

I just asked this question the other day. MKD helm with STR+4, WS dmg +2%