Mirke walde-CORS

[Tkn]

Thinking about take this body to my Cor... but need to to a hard choice ;_;

the 2 options:

DEF:42 AGI+5 DEX+5 STR+5 HP+10 MP+10
Ranged acc +10 Ranged att +10
This body will make me throw away af+1, and use Denali only for QD >.<

or....

DEF:42 AGI+5 DEX+5 STR+5 HP+10 MP+10
Magic att bonus +4 QD recast -5
Will help a lot Soloing (When using QD lot of times and dont change equipement in macros...) Continue using Denali to ws or body+1 to acc ws's


What do you Think About this 2 Choices ? ^^
*Sorry for my "n00b EnGlisH"

[jurjur]

mab+4 and qd recast-5 is the best choice here

[Shinryuu]

Definitely.

Cue the Tiamat parse where some COR outdamaged some BLMs, etc.

[Mytiwar]

mab+4 and qd recast-5 is the best choice here

Especially if you already have denali for Slug

[grantlogan]

If you were to go with the first option, I don't see how you could pass up the snaphot. But definitely go for the QD/MAB if you play COR alot, it's such a great QD piece.

[Falisa]

If you do play COR alot in endgame situations (or even happen to solo alot) that QD body piece will go really far. Thats -15 timer on every QD you do if you have 5/5 on your QD timer merits.

My personal opinion on those body pieces is to get something you can't eventually get a better version of. Now if you use the ratk/racc+10, you could get a comparable body piece from skadi or af1+1. You won't find -QD on any other body piece (or +matk bonus for that matter)

My plan actually for this is to go with +ratk/snapshot for some sexy RAs with Zha'go's Barbut and AF2 gloves. I'm also taking RNG to 75 so its awesome for two jobs.

[Callisto]

Said this in the other thread, but I don't really think the snapshot route is worth it for COR. They get no natural Snapshot access like RNG does, AF2 gloves lose 4 Racc and 10 RAtk for what was last time I checked an undetermined amount of delay-, and really I don't see many instances of fights where you'd want to shoot for TP at 75, at least not enough to warrant spending your ACP body on it.

The WS piece would be nice, but it isn't going to do a super noticeable amount of damage more than Denali or Skadi would.

The QD piece on the other hand, would be totally unique barring them adding some other sort of MAB body for COR on top of QD delay- being a totally unique stat, I'd definitely say that's the way to go if you want to make one specifically for COR.

[Xrave]

DEF:42 AGI+5 DEX+5 STR+5 HP+10 MP+10
Magic att bonus +4 QD recast -5
Will help a lot Soloing (When using QD lot of times and dont change equipement in macros...)

You mean will help a lot soloing, at HNMs, in end-game, and in merits (faster sleeps or high parser if you use QD for damage).

Really no choice.

[Falisa]

Said this in the other thread, but I don't really think the snapshot route is worth it for COR. They get no natural Snapshot access like RNG does, AF2 gloves lose 4 Racc and 10 RAtk for what was last time I checked an undetermined amount of delay-, and really I don't see many instances of fights where you'd want to shoot for TP at 75, at least not enough to warrant spending your ACP body on it.

The WS piece would be nice, but it isn't going to do a super noticeable amount of damage more than Denali or Skadi would.

The QD piece on the other hand, would be totally unique barring them adding some other sort of MAB body for COR on top of QD delay- being a totally unique stat, I'd definitely say that's the way to go if you want to make one specifically for COR.

I think it might make a nice noticeable difference with those three pieces of gear on. I am planning on turning RNG into my main job so im mostly getting it for RNG, not COR. But if it sucks, atleast it already says you can trade it in for different version.

[Callisto]

Yeah for RNG it's different, that'd be a baller TP piece, but I wouldn't take it for COR alone.

[Carrilei]

Eh, I have to admit I'm a little surprised at how sure most are at tossing aside a 5 STR, 5 AGI, 10 Raac, 10 Raat WS piece without a second thought. It may not be worlds better than what you're getting with Skadi or Denali, but it is clearly superior - pretty much universally. That has value with a job that regularly contributes pretty well in the WS category.

The QD piece on the other hand.. While I see the value, and may very well go with it, has less impact to be quite honest. The real value of it, is where your only damage is coming from the JA (spamming it the second it's up every time), and it's not resisting badly. That occurs far less often then a weaponskill does, assuming your participation in endgame events is relatively evenly spread.

Personally I'm not going to set anything in stone before I have to - and like Falisa said, fortunately they've already said it will be changable. Let's see exactly how the augmenting of armor works for everything, what new stuff is added, and see if we're looking at this QD vs WS Mirke Waldecors from the same perspective when it comes time to obtain it.

[Kerberoz]

It's a nice ws piece, but not hugely better than skadi, denali, af2+1.

QD recast-5 is a unique stat, though, and I can see 45 sec timers being very sexy in a lot of situations and having a lot more utility. Plus the added QD damage is nice...

[Carrilei]

To be fair, 5 STR, 5 AGI, 10 Raac, 10 Raat.. Is better than nice. It's great.

Also, to something earlier in the thread - there is no way merits is a strength for QD here. You should barely be using damage QDs in merits, and if/when you do, it's sporadic. And I'd much rather get a BRD to pull then waste the best WS piece in the game due to an unfortunate party set-up.

There are valid points for going QD here, but don't even mention merits or merit-like situations. I'm just showing the other side of the coin here - again I'm undecided. But I do think most are being a bit too generous towards QD.

[Meat]

Get better gear to merit with? wut??????

qd\mab all the way.. i'm looking your way timmy. i'm coming fo yo ass

[Carrilei]

If you only WS in merits, you're doing COR wrong.

[Kerberoz]

Imo, 5 sec off quick draw will make a bigger difference endgame than a slightly higher average ws. Ixion, grand wyrms, etc for damage. Dynamis, ein, etc for sleeps.

There's also soloing... obviously a strong QD build helps there

For merits only, of course go for the WS build. For endgame, I'd rather have my sleep/dispel/DD timer ready faster.

Also, I spam the fuck out of ice/earth shot in merits. Don't really need to help with sleeps if you have a good bard or two and kill the mobs fast. Of course if they're no where close and a mamool needs dispelled I'll waste one on dark shot. Should never have more than 2-3 mobs at camp if you're killing fast, so getting swamped with links is never really an issue.

[Callisto]

^

I use a ton of QD in merits, mostly to knock of shock spikes/stoneskin from mamools or to finish off mobs that are at 5% to move on to the next one faster.

[Carrilei]

Dispelling a mage Mamool Ja is one thing, but that really isn't going to be happening faster than 50 seconds.. I generally won't use a damage QD in merits, unless a Puk is at low HP and uses Flash, or a Skoffin/Wivre at low HP. If you'd seriously rather have the QD piece over WS in merits, I really do have to question your overall outlook on it. I'm not even arguing merits as the biggest positive of +10 Raac +10 Raat - there are lots of endgame where COR is weaponskilling.

[Kerberoz]

If you'd seriously rather have the QD piece over WS in merits

Who said that?

[Clave]

My COR is not at 75 yet, but it seems to me like the "Magic att bonus +4 QD recast -5" choice would have a huge impact on COR end-game (aka on anything that isn't merits, farming, etc). This is especially true if you already have QD recast merits. As far as the COR choice in armor and augments, I'd personally have no doubt in my mind that this is the route I would go. COR could already put out some impressive QD damage and employ these tactics to solo many things other jobs can't.

Of course, if all you care about is how you do in merits then that is a bit different.