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    Why is this up to page 4 after <stpt> and <stal> was mentioned on the first page? Just see alot of "blahblahblah my way's better cause I am to lazy to look stuff up blahblahblah."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandiekane View Post
    /sigh

    You just don't get it do you.

    Forget your JA, WAR, OSHIT, and MDB gearsets because I swap visible gear for those. What are you left with? 2 idle gearsets, flash, and utsu.

    The only visible gear swaps for pld are head, body, hands, legs, feet. Toss hands and legs out the door since they are pretty much Homam only.

    So what we are basically talking about is head, body, and feet for those 4 gearsets you have.

    I either idle in:
    1. atonement spam (w turban, homam body, homam feet)
    2. shield (koenig head, ares, af+1) <== I ONLY use this rarely during Ichi macro if I need it, and swap back to general before ichi is done casting for haste.
    3. general (b mask, ares, homam feet)

    So depending which gearset I'm in, my benefits from these 3 slots will change, yes. But look I am not being inefficient.

    1. I atonement spam in full haste, so my utsu and flash are capped recast. Any flash, utsu, or cure's have enmity/haste invisible gear swapped out just like you.

    2. I use shield set for ichi ONLY if I am getting pummled to try and get shadows back up and mitigate damage. All other invisible gear swaps are used for damage reduction and shield skill just like you. The only difference here is, I swap back to general or atonement gearset after the mob swing and gain the benefit from both shield and capped haste. Although this is rarely needed in any fight thanks to reprisal, slow, and elegy.

    3. I idle in general and lose 5% haste from turban but gain 8 enmity from mask. Flash and utsu should both be capped as well since I'm at 15% haste from gear still (double march + haste spell). Any flash, utsu, or cure's have enmity/haste invisible gear swapped out just like you.

    So basically, I am just as efficient as you, with less micro management. The only thing you have going for you is hydra haub which not many people have. Other than that, I don't see any difference between your efficiency and mine.



    Just because you don't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Do you use blinkmenot? If not, have you cast ichi or ni RIGHT after flash before? If not, that's why you never experienced this. Obviously people other than me are experiencing this not only on PLD but on different jobs as well.
    Actually, as you've been told by everyone here, YOU just dont get it.

    1. You cant toss hands/legs out the door, because they arent always the best idle pieces and defintely arent the best damage down and emnity pieces available.

    2. You STILL didnt post your complete idle sets for comparison.

    - If you are in your haste atonement set then you are missing the emnity from body/head that I put in (if we both use homam legs/feet/hands for other spots), or you are missing the haste from head (if you idle in baha mask for some retarded reason). If you idle in an emnity piece, then you are missing the acc/att/refresh peice.

    So even in that one set, you are lacking in emnity, haste, acc, attack, and refresh.

    The same applies for your other defense/shield skill sets. You sacrifice the haste/emnity in your casts and get less mp efficiency over time via inefficient body pieces. You are NOT being "just as efficient". You are in fact being "not even a close to as efficient".

    Also, if you maximized your haste you could swap from double marches to march/ballad2 and have alot more MP for cureswaps, cross alliance cures, and self preservation. 15% haste isnt the cap, and double marches isnt always the best solution, especially when you can get haste in other areas and thus get better mp restored over time.

    No, I dont use blinkmenot because Ive never had too. Ive never had a problem targeting people because I know how to type people's names, use the new targeting commands, and am not functionally retarded. And OFCOURSE ive casted ichi or ni after casting flash, how long do you think ive tanked? I have never once had this timing delay from gear swaps. In all reality this sounds to me like you are getting lag errors on command inputs, and is something YOU need to work out, and not something inherent to equip swaps.

    So once again you have less haste in your actions, less emnity in your actions, build TP at a far slower rate, take more damage when your shadows are down, and restore less mp over time. How the FUCK is that "just as efficient"?

    And to the poster a few posts above that stated "our tanks keep fine and dont blink", kill yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    no
    yes you are >_>;'

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    Neo, you can't fix stupid just give it a rest mang, join in the werewolf rave festivities.

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    I agree with everything you just said neo, but you just cant get through to some people. People are stuck with the "if it aint broke dont fix it" attitude, but they dont want to admit they can make it better or are just too lazy to do so. The same argument I get all the time, rather then insisting they change the way they have been curing for years, fine I just dont blink under 50%. Less hassle and i can work on maximizing my performance when im not half dead. If im above 50 I will damn sure blink for every utsu/flash/cure/ability though.

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    Keep it civil, people.

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    Neosutra & Kandiekane they remind me of these two right here>
    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...2520hearts.jpg

    In addition, are the two of you planning to make these thread 10 pages long about whose dick is bigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunknmunky View Post
    In addition, are the two of you planning to make these thread 10 pages long about whose dick is bigger?
    Are you planning to keep reading it?

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    TO BLINK: 104832879913759712938572713657823145
    NOT TO BLINK 1?

    Pretty sure your question is answerd lawl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexa
    This is officially the topic I am most sick of seeing come up again and again (and again and again and again) on BG. I'd rather have another fucking useless AV topic about "HAY GUYZ ANY1 TRIED ABONY PANELS" than this shit.

    Blink, goddamnit, BLINK!

    I have never ever experienced any sort of delay in my spells, abilities, or ANY other issues with blinking. This topic needs to go die in a fire.
    /thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekmotorwurkz View Post
    Are you planning to keep reading it?
    My answer is on my signature. Any other further questions you may have in mind just pm.

    Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexa View Post
    This is officially the topic I am most sick of seeing come up again and again (and again and again and again) on BG. I'd rather have another fucking useless AV topic about "HAY GUYZ ANY1 TRIED ABONY PANELS" than this shit.

    Blink, goddamnit, BLINK!

    I have never ever experienced any sort of delay in my spells, abilities, or ANY other issues with blinking. This topic needs to go die in a fire.
    I heard if you click ebony panels you won't blink while changing visible equipment. Can you confirm or deny this theory?

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    In 100% seriousness, I've always used <stpc> on all my mages jobs and scrolled up and down the alliance list using up and down on my controller. I'm really confused here because I don't remember ever losing target like that unless I was just chilling on them or something. Do people actually like use the left and right arrows to target the models and not the names??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Araelus View Post
    I heard if you click ebony panels you won't blink while changing visible equipment. Can you confirm or deny this theory?
    I'm going to deny until I see an ebony panel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    In 100% seriousness, I've always used <stpc> on all my mages jobs and scrolled up and down the alliance list using up and down on my controller. I'm really confused here because I don't remember ever losing target like that unless I was just chilling on them or something. Do people actually like use the left and right arrows to target the models and not the names??
    <stpc> allows the use of f1-f6, <stpt> does not. That is the only thing I can see (and annoys the fuck out of me...though not quite as annoying as the bad alternative of getting blinked...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    1. You cant toss hands/legs out the door, because they arent always the best idle pieces and defintely arent the best damage down and emnity pieces available.
    Your own fucking gearsets state that you use homam legs and hands in all 4 gearsets sets that matters. So you are fucking retarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    2. You STILL didnt post your complete idle sets for comparison.
    My complete idle sets are clear and exactly what I posted. Learn2Read. Non-visible gear swaps are irrelevant because we both swap them. You and I both idle and cast utsu AND flash in homam hand/legs. So you are even more retarded for not understanding what I wrote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    - If you are in your haste atonement set then you are missing the emnity from body/head that I put in (if we both use homam legs/feet/hands for other spots), or you are missing the haste from head (if you idle in baha mask for some retarded reason). If you idle in an emnity piece, then you are missing the acc/att/refresh peice.
    If I am in haste atonement, I am missing enmity from body/head, but I gain haste from head. Body for most people is only 4 enmity difference. Do you tank in Mach+1? or Hauty/Joy?

    If I'm missing the haste from head, I GAIN 8 enmity for all my actions, which is a good alternative.

    If I'm idle'ing in enmity (you mean body?) I don't. I idle in ares or homam body.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    So even in that one set, you are lacking in emnity, haste, acc, attack, and refresh.
    What set?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    The same applies for your other defense/shield skill sets. You sacrifice the haste/emnity in your casts and get less mp efficiency over time via inefficient body pieces. You are NOT being "just as efficient". You are in fact being "not even a close to as efficient".
    Do you not read? My defense/shield set is for ichi ONLY and I swap back to the other 2 sets before the cast goes off. So in that sense, I'm even more efficient than you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Also, if you maximized your haste you could swap from double marches to march/ballad2 and have alot more MP for cureswaps, cross alliance cures, and self preservation. 15% haste isnt the cap, and double marches isnt always the best solution, especially when you can get haste in other areas and thus get better mp restored over time.
    march/balld2 is maximizing? LOL, I tank with marchx2 + balladx2 kthx. Protip: recruit more brds. I have plenty of mp and always capped haste.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    No, I dont use blinkmenot because Ive never had too. Ive never had a problem targeting people because I know how to type people's names, use the new targeting commands, and am not functionally retarded. And OFCOURSE ive casted ichi or ni after casting flash, how long do you think ive tanked? I have never once had this timing delay from gear swaps. In all reality this sounds to me like you are getting lag errors on command inputs, and is something YOU need to work out, and not something inherent to equip swaps.
    Are you again retarded? IT'S NOT JUST ME who is experiencing this problem. You can deny all you want, but other people have the same problem. So stfu.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    So once again you have less haste in your actions, less emnity in your actions, build TP at a far slower rate, take more damage when your shadows are down, and restore less mp over time. How the FUCK is that "just as efficient"?
    Once again, you are an idiot. I'm always at the haste cap, I am either trading off 5% haste for 8 enmity, or vice versa always. Body piece is irrelevant since hydra haub is so rare. Is 4 enmity going to make or break a tank? NOOOO, that's why pld's tank in joy/haut/excal. I actually build tp 1% faster than you do since I use wturban and you use lolaskar. My shadows are usually always up, if not, I switch to damage reduction/shield gear, how am I taking more damage? I either idle in ares or homam, I can't wear both at the same time. So how are you able to achieve more refresh when you yourself can only wear 1 body peice at a time?


    And so what we're really talking about here is actually 4enmity (9enmity in your case). You make it sound like by swapping gear you gain 30 extra enmity and 15% more haste in addition to what non-blinking tanks have. That is misleading. Most of the gear swaps in your post are NON-BLINKING gear swaps. You only swap around bmask, turban, hydra haub, and ares/homam body. THAT'S IT. You choose to do it with every action, I choose to swap into them as I see fit for the duration of the fight. It's the same thing.

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    how are you at haste cap? you have a blackbelt or something? lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    how are you at haste cap? you have a blackbelt or something? lololol
    I'm at spell recast cap. 15% haste in equipment + marchx2 + haste spell. lololol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colenzo View Post
    how are you at haste cap? you have a blackbelt or something? lololol
    15+11+9=35 from spells.
    Need "15" to cap (16 after rounding).
    4 Belt
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    That's +16. While I agree not blinking is dumb, you are coming off as even dumber because you can't follow a semi-logical argument (he is saying he always has 2 bards).

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    oh i didnt know the magic cap :3

    but now im confused :< lol

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