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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    Hahah, I'm just assuming it's going to keep me happy. They could royally fuck this up, but for once I'm staying optimistic.
    It seems that, through strange cosmic events, it is my role in life to make you happy.

  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnsemGeni View Post
    wtf SE wheres my blm update?!!?
    Over there with the superior Black Mage gear you refuse to use.

    That in itself would be a massive update for you

  3. #243
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    Good stuff for whm, although I hated healing on Sch so the changes don't bother me. I hope they do something for blms, because that's definatly been one of the more ignored jobs in terms of new stuff (riding the ignore train with rdm) since the game came out. At least rdm stuff didn't get nerfed, we're in the negatives in terms of useful updates.

  4. #244
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    Thank you SE for fixing my job! I can finally say I wanna play this thing again! Wahoo!

    Also, not skimming through 10 pages cause I dunno if it's been said yet but uhhh

    Sublimation in theory should totally charge Misery, making both new Job Abilities extremely viable. This is AWESOME.

  5. #245
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    It only took 5 years...

  6. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    I am with Septimus (almost put his comments in my sig), is optimism becoming the new pessimism? Is it going to become cool to be giddy and excited instead of jaded and cynical?
    I'll keep my jaded cynicism until SE stops listening to the mouth-breathing morons who want front line updates for RDM.

    Until they negate the usefulness of wands and staves, melee enhancements are as useful as tits on a boar for anything that matters, and I will be damned if I watch the opportunity to make RDM more fun for the actual content in the game slip by so that someone can melee in a merit party or farm a little faster.

  7. #247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    All three jobs you listed have their own uses, along with thier own pros and cons. A blm will put up bigger numbers, a whm will (now) heal better. Sch isn't a replacement, it's a supplement. (similar to how cor suppliments, but doesn't replace a brd)

    This has already been discussed (at great length) can we move on now please?


    Back in topic, I wonder if the damage stance will track damage from any source, if so it could bring certain items into use. (isn't there a torque that drains hp?) maybe poison pots will have a use?

    Specualtion of course, but it does seem interesting
    More or less correct answer. I am surprised people thinking SCH replacing BLM especially in major endgame. If not my previous idea of a JA stacking damage then prolly rewrite IV/AM2 to a better effect. If you make BLM more mp efficient than SCH then SCH just becomes a healing SMN.

    The only thing SCH is in need of is a better revision of Helix. The formula it uses is rather fail in regards to mobs with high INT. Other than that, I don't care for Haste/Refresh/Regen anymore since thats too much. The scan spell would be nice though just for looks >> lol

    But yes, again: PUP A.I fix, BLM JA addition of some kind like the past several job updates, AVATARS ahhh {with this new healing, SMN is pretty much screwed out of this so only hopeful they get these this update}. RDM... meh, at the risk of causing another locked topic in regards to it I'll just say I hope whatever they do to them doesn't make them feel justified to melee at EVERY given chance and be unable to do their duties.

    Quote Originally Posted by thatwasnifty View Post
    MTE.
    Sorry to ask but what does that mean.

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    SMN seems more ignored than BLM...

    2006:
    "Here, have some new avatars..."
    "When"
    "Soon..."

    2007:
    "Hey, we're introducing Odin and Alexander"
    "Sweet, I can't wait, SMNs need some love"
    "Ohh... they won't be obtainable by players"

    2008:
    "Hey, we're introducing a summon that you all know and love from FFX: Ixion"
    "Ohh, are these the new avatars you promised us?"
    "No... just another mob to kill for shineys"

  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno View Post
    (riding the ignore train with rdm)
    NIN too, when WHM has 5 JAs and NIN has 1, it's time for an update.

  10. #250
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    *This update will also allow groups of 18 whm to kill AV

    (AV had to be mentioned)

  11. #251
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    wheres the reposega?
    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics.../4142/4142.jpg
    And that picture still makes me think there will be rdm/whm/blm updates. but who knows what that picture really meant?

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    Are WHM mobs going to start using Sacrifice / Cura / Esuna / Auspice?

    I don't think any of these would be a huge deal...not nearly as useful for the enemy as they are for players. Still, just wondering.

  13. #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amastacia View Post
    I'll keep my jaded cynicism until SE stops listening to the mouth-breathing morons who want front line updates for RDM.

    Until they negate the usefulness of wands and staves, melee enhancements are as useful as tits on a boar for anything that matters, and I will be damned if I watch the opportunity to make RDM more fun for the actual content in the game slip by so that someone can melee in a merit party or farm a little faster.
    Either you know my boss, are from a small farming community in Kansas or you are STEALING MY METAPHORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "Useless as tits on a boar" is MINE!!! GET THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >.<

  14. #254
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Either you know my boss, are from a small farming community in Kansas or you are STEALING MY METAPHORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "Useless as tits on a boar" is MINE!!! GET THE FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >.<
    I'm not sure I agree with that phrase. Tits on just about anything are good.

  15. #255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amastacia View Post
    I'll keep my jaded cynicism until SE stops listening to the mouth-breathing morons who want front line updates for RDM.

    Until they negate the usefulness of wands and staves, melee enhancements are as useful as tits on a boar for anything that matters, and I will be damned if I watch the opportunity to make RDM more fun for the actual content in the game slip by so that someone can melee in a merit party or farm a little faster.
    The combination of this post and your sig denotes someone who is completely insufferable, don't worry though as long as you keep on thinking you're smarter and more special than everyone else you can keep on being miserable.

  16. #256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amastacia View Post
    I will be damned if I watch the opportunity to make RDM more fun for the actual content in the game slip by so that someone can melee in a merit party or farm a little faster.
    If it helps any, remember that interview answer(i think it was in an interview) where they said martyr was supposed to have a short range to make whms feel more "in the action". And they changed that into something much more practical for typical mageing(and probably worth a merit for a lot more people now), so perhaps they will move that way for rdm also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zantes View Post
    I'm not sure I agree with that phrase. Tits on just about anything are good.
    Including male pigs?

  18. #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergall View Post
    Are WHM mobs going to start using Sacrifice / Cura / Esuna / Auspice?

    I don't think any of these would be a huge deal...not nearly as useful for the enemy as they are for players. Still, just wondering.
    Usually (not always though) SE just adds new abilities and spells to mobs made at the time or after they are implemented.

  19. #259
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    Sch is now going to be THE subjob choice for whm (assuming its not already) if the damage stance tracks from any source.

    1. Pop stance
    2. Use sublimation
    3. ???
    4. Profit

  20. #260
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    Sch is now going to be THE subjob choice for whm (assuming its not already) if the damage stance tracks from any source.
    It already was (I sub SCH 99.5% of the time), the update just makes it even more-so if that's the case.

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