Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009)

[Zilong]

And depending on casting speed, potent paralyze

[Ultimagi]

Except with those race condition glitches. Like when I heard someone casted sleep on an enemy, then the enemy attacked them, got hit with the player's spikes effect, which woke the enemy. Maybe if you casted Esuna immediately after getting hit with Silence, it would still go off and remove it?

[Ker]

Just give RDM 1 Spell or JA not related to Meleeing and i'll be super happy but if not i won't complain just want something new if not atleast fix enfeebling

[Yugl]

Aside from maybe AoE Cursna or Blinda, I can't image Esuna being useful if it acts as a AoE -na spell and you need the effect yourself to cast it. Poison can actually be good depending on the strength. I wouldn't want my main healer having Paralyze to begin with. Silence and Petrify are obviously not going to be cured with Esuna. I can't think of anything else that would warrant an immediate -na spell.

Edit: If they made it so that Esuna could be casted THROUGH Silence or Petrify, I could see some potential.

[finalwolf]

Wasn't mentioned in the posts I was replying to, but yes this is more applicable.
Afflatus Misery, Devotion, then cast a spell its affected by, then switch back to Afflatus Solace.

not sure Devotion will work as "damage received" as stated in Afflatus Misery, equipment with -% dmg redux (both physical and magical) doesn't lower the amount of HP sacrificed when using Devotion/Martyr.

Stoneskin does aid with Devotion, Martyr, Soul Eater (off the top of my head)

edit: smn/sch is ftw after update

[GuntarHolyFlame]

Sacrifice to transfer enfeeble (or multiple ones with the buffed version).
Use Esuna to remove enfeeble on other players (or multiple ones with the buffed version).

Simple. D:

(Guntar) Oh no! Everyone but me is Paralyzed!
Guntar starts casting Sacrifice on Player1...
Guntar casts Sacrifice on Player1.
Guntar gains the effect of paralyze.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
(Guntar) Goddammit!

Hope I'm not the only person who thought of this scenario... lol.

[Ker]

Um... SE just basically added a bunch of stuff you all never thought of in a year of speculating. If you think you can "already guess" what they're going to do to RDM and/or BLM, think again

I dont mind being suprised

[Bastilla]

I'm not getting my hopes up, but it would be amazing if erase could take away amnesia when you're in Afflatus Solace.

You may as well just be in range of getting enfeebles when its not Silence, Para or Petrification instead of using sacrifice and then Esuna. Just stoneskin up and get hit with GoH and take those burn effects off etc

Edit: NVM my example, we dont know if its only -NAs or Erase or both.

[shaddix]

fuck esuna in the ass then. if you have to stand out of range and 4 people get hit with it you have to sacri run in use it, could be useful there. With 3 melees its probably just quicker to hit the na unless its blindna. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Seraph]

(Guntar) Oh no! Everyone but me is Paralyzed!
Guntar starts casting Sacrifice on Player1...
Guntar casts Sacrifice on Player1.
Guntar gains the effect of paralyze.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
(Guntar) Goddammit!

Hope I'm not the only person who thought of this scenario... lol.

You would still be dead from 5 minutes ago, who are you kidding? >_>

[Ultimagi]

New Red Mage Job Ability:
"En Guarde"
Increases sword enhancement spell damage, augments sword enhancement spells to grant stat bonuses and also increases accuracy, attack, and attack speed. Under this effect, players receive -50% Fast Cast and +25% Slow to all other spells casted.

[Ker]

LOL only in BG were people must find something wrong with new update/etc

[EternalSnow]

Wow, 20 minutes later I finally caught the line:



Gogo SMN/SCH for real! COR/SCH could be viable in some situations now, too.

And if we're placing bets, I'd guess (in order of likelyhood) the next update notes will be:

1. RDM (2 to 1 odds)
2. SMN (5 to 1 odds)
3. BLM (20 to 1 odds)

holy cow I totally missed that. I am happy they lowered the reraise on sch XD. I wonder what they will do next. *Hopes for summoner update info*

[Neosutra]

(Guntar) Oh no! Everyone but me is Paralyzed!
Guntar starts casting Sacrifice on Player1...
Guntar casts Sacrifice on Player1.
Guntar gains the effect of paralyze.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
Guntar starts casting Esuna on Guntar...
Guntar is paralyzed.
(Guntar) Goddammit!

Hope I'm not the only person who thought of this scenario... lol.

Ya I kinda saw Sacrifice as an emergency "fuck my whms have no MP but I need a quick paralyna to get my shadows off". But who knows, maybe someone will find a super awesome benefit. (Could be useful mp saver for getting rid of things like attack/acc down w/o casting erase/esuna, now that I think about it).

[DoctorEvil]

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After going to see the movie Knowing this weekend I found myself eerily staring at this collection of characters trying to figure out if the apocalypse is on it's way to Vana'diel.

p.s. Update is win

[Ultimagi]

If you don't have 12 MP for Paralyna, I doubt you'd have enough for Sacrifice.

[Seraph]

Tier 2 En-Spells grant a Magic Attack Bonus and Magic Accuracy Bonus to spells cast relating to their element, in additional to additional effect damage on melee swings.

BOOM. Melee and Mage buff for RDM. So hard.

[Cantih]

I don't know and I don't care if it's been said yet, but I'm copyrighting the term Cureskin.

THAT'S MY SHIT.

Sounds disturbingly like foreskin.

[GuntarHolyFlame]

You would still be dead from 5 minutes ago, who are you kidding? >_>

Don't forget you're talking to a Galka! I took a critical hit then Tortoise Stomp from Genbu while tanking on RDM/NIN and lived to tell the tale :D

Also, I totally wrote that as if I were high enough level WHM to actually cast Sacrifice and Esuna.

Gogo 37WHM for RDM sub!

[Seraph]

Don't forget you're talking to a Galka! I took a critical hit then Tortoise Stomp from Genbu while tanking on RDM/NIN and lived to tell the tale :D

Also, I totally wrote that as if I were high enough level WHM to actually cast Sacrifice and Esuna.

Gogo 37WHM for RDM sub!

I know, seriously.

But I was talking more of a "Unconscious on my floor, sporting Parade Cuirass" sort of situation.